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100 Years
Topic Started: Sep 7 2005, 02:03 PM (580 Views)
StAndrews4Eva
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Gil Merrick
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I think all these recent posts about the history of the club and how things used to me has been great for some of the younger posters to learn about the club. Very interesting reading.
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baron von bluenose
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Bob Latchford
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sam jordan
Sep 7 2005, 02:07 PM
TJDIXI
Sep 7 2005, 02:03 PM
of being known as Birmingham City Football Club

125 years of being a football club

Any plans by the club to mention these landmarks?

next one of the top of my head is December 2006

100 at st andrews

surely it is 130 yrs, since 1875?

not sure if 100 yrs being known as BCFC with generate a party, they did little for 125yrs....

100 yrs at st andrews should bring something special i guess

for 125 the did a book containing all history
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PartisanBCFC
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Jack Wiseman
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StAndrews4Eva
Sep 9 2005, 07:52 AM
I think all these recent posts about the history of the club and how things used to me has been great for some of the younger posters to learn about the club. Very interesting reading.

Thanks for the comment and here's some history Blues fans might enjoy

Well,of course it is well versed on here that Vile fans are famous for their HISTORY lessons but checking the stats it was interesting to note that it's been almost 50 years since their last FA Cup triumph and they have only won ONE top flight title (old Div One) in 95 years.....so the theory by us 'Noses' that most of their silverware was won BEFORE the launch of RMS Titanic is actually quite near the mark

In fact someone else mentioned on the 'Celeb' thread that HRH Prince William is a Vile fan but it is his Great,Great,Great Grandmother HM Queen Victoria who was around when they were last among the elite

Our record in League 'derbies' v Vile reads as follows

Blues W 35 ....D 28....L 39
Vile W 39 ..D 28 ...L 35

So,I don't know WHY they think that are vastly superior....that is pretty close and we have a HOME game coming up against them soon don't we ???
Our worse defeat to the 'pink and baby blues' was a 7-3 defeat back in the 1890's when the Second City rivalry was just being born but our record victory over AV was a lot more recent
September 21st 1968 in fact in front of 45,000 fans at St Andrews.....4-0 win (in old 2nd Div) with Greenhoff,Vowden,Vincent and Summerill the scorers and 'yours truly' just happened to be there......Happy Days

Anyone else ???
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barryblue
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Sep 9 2005, 07:29 AM
barryblue
Sep 8 2005, 04:58 PM
A football club was 'invited' to take the city name        and as b6 wanted to stay named after a suburb,Blues took it on.This was to enhance the City motto 'Forward' .


Didn't the council make us stop using "Forward" in the 60s or 70s ? I thought that was why we created a new badge to replace the city's coat of arms on our shirts.

No,the City Council were becoming the winterval group and they wanted to change the city crest and a horrible thing came up like a British Rail logo from some doombrain in our now 'backward'council and with their lack of support the club looked for another badge as the council didn't want to be associated with the likes of us,DS,DG,KB.That was in time for centenary year.
Remember the council tried to stop a city tour on promotion. Now some other doombrain from the backward council will say they have a box...Because they already had one at B6 and were criticised for not having one at St And. I am still of the opinion we should move out of the boundary,then they'd miss us.We can still keep the name.(The v++++ has long gone,they kept it).Go to Wythall area.

As for Blues fan at V++++,the biggest was Doug Ellis!
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barryblue
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Yes Partisan,I was there 4.0 and we hit the woodwork twice!

The prince was told to say he supported a club that wouldn't be controversial and upset the big boys so he chose B6 but then who gives a ++++ ,he hasn't bought a ST has he?.

King George actually attended a Blues game (my grandfather was there) and thousands of pigeons were released from the ground(they were supposed to be carrier birds but they liked it so much I think they stayed in the City.Even now some of the ancestors can be seen in the ground.)

The attendance that day was closed at 85,000 and my grandad informed me that there was actually over a 100,000there and as many locked out.
I wonder if it was the Blues or the King they came for,must have been the Blues.
These records were lost when the main stand was bombed by Adolph Vile.
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chilternblue
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PartisanBCFC
Sep 8 2005, 04:13 AM
chilternblue
Sep 7 2005, 09:07 PM
Heard from a viler that small heath alliance and aston Vile had an agreement not to take the citys name back in the old days. Blues obviously ignored this agreement.Does anyone else know more about this.

Yes,it's true but the council encouraged Small Heath to take the city's name when St Andrews was proposed as a stadium.....so they did.... sc**w the Vile
Both Vile and Blues started life as cricket clubs....Blues were started by the Holy Trinity Cricket Club
Both clubs were also invited to enter a 'joint' team in the old Inter Cities Fairs cup when it was intoduced in the mid 50's ('London' comprised a team of players from Chelsea,Fulham,Brentford,Spurs,Arsenal and West Ham)
Vile declined so BCFC went in it alone and reached the Final both in 1960 and 1961 only to lose both 2 legged games to Roma and Barcelona ....thus becoming the FIRST English club side to reach a European final....pity we didn't win either...would have gone down in folklore
Tottenham hold the claim to being the 1st English side to win a Euro trophy in 1963 when they won the old European Cup Winners Cup
Manchester United were the FIRST English winners of the European Cup (Now the CL)....1968.........United have won it twice (so have Notts Forest) ....Liverpool hold the record with 5 triumphs including last years epic with AC Milan.....I believe Real Madrid hold the record for most EC (CL) wins

Back to Blues and they started in 1875 as Small Heath Alliance (1875-1888),became just Small Heath between 1888 and 1905 before being known as Birmingham FC in 1906 and added the 'City' in 1947-48
We have had four 'homes'... Arthur St and Muntz St in Small Heath and Ladypool Road in Sparkbrook and the current home St Andrews.......gypsies were evicted from the site of our current home and it's often rumoured when they left, a curse was put on the club for 100 years which predicted the club would NOT win anything....However we did win the League Cup in 1963 so believe what you will

Another myth is that a dead horse from those days was buried under the Tilton Road goalmouth but in 1994 it was excavated when the whole pitch was relaid and the club's fortunes have actually changed since then.....Blues won the Nationwide Div Two title that year,reached the League Cup Final in 2001 and won promotion a year later to the EPL....the club's financial state has dramatically improved too in that time and in case younger fans don't remember ...Birmingham City Football Club were just minutes away from liquidation and going out of busniess completely (a la Accrington Stanley style) but a former chairman named Ken Wheldon stepped in with a rescue package .....the banks and several other creditors and lenders wanted the club closed down...it was THAT close

The curse ends in 2006 (in reality it ended this year 2005 if you calculate 100 from and including 1906)

here endeth the history leasson

Thanks for the info Partisan,my late grandfather once told me that his uncle was a founder member of the cricket team/football club.Someday i will find out if this was accurate or not but i know for a fact they my mothers family all lived in Small Heath for a considerable amount of time.Bizarely enough my fathers great great grandfather who was from handsworth wood was a major shareholder down the Vile. I'm not sure what involment he had with them but it was supposed to be considerable.
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