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Topic Started: Sep 10 2005, 07:04 PM (214 Views)
BCFC_Ben
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Kenny Burns
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Like everyone else I am very upset after our 3rd home loss on the bounce. One thing I can't fathom is the second half change of jarosik for Izzet.

I could not believe Bruce took off jarosik and replaced him with izzet. I have also reserved judgement on izzet where as others have slated him (dr nick cough cough) :P However, today Jarosik looked like the only player capable of scoring and Izzet looked bloody awful when he came on, he looks slow and over weight and probably had about 2 touches on the ball mainly in our half. Definately a somewhat strange and naive substitution.

I really think we need Kilkenny on the bench next match. I watched him vs Vile reserves and he was great and worked really hard, I cant see the point of having clemence and izzet on the same bench, both similar players neither likely to have a great influence on the score, Kilkenny on the other hand just might,
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Willie
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Sep 10 2005, 08:04 PM
Like everyone else I am very upset after our 3rd home loss on the bounce. One thing I can't fathom is the second half change of jarosik for Izzet.

I could not believe Bruce took off jarosik and replaced him with izzet. I have also reserved judgement on izzet where as others have slated him (dr nick cough cough) :P However, today Jarosik looked like the only player capable of scoring and Izzet looked bloody awful when he came on, he looks slow and over weight and probably had about 2 touches on the ball mainly in our half. Definately a somewhat strange and naive substitution.

I really think we need Kilkenny on the bench next match. I watched him vs Vile reserves and he was great and worked really hard, I cant see the point of having clemence and izzet on the same bench, both similar players neither likely to have a great influence on the score, Kilkenny on the other hand just might,

Your right SMM it was puzzling why he made that change. I would be interested in hearing his response. but its not as if its a new thing our use of subs is baffling and it disrupts the flow of the team.
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Sep 10 2005, 07:04 PM
Like everyone else I am very upset after our 3rd home loss on the bounce. One thing I can't fathom is the second half change of jarosik for Izzet.

I could not believe Bruce took off jarosik and replaced him with izzet. I have also reserved judgement on izzet where as others have slated him (dr nick cough cough) :P However, today Jarosik looked like the only player capable of scoring and Izzet looked bloody awful when he came on, he looks slow and over weight and probably had about 2 touches on the ball mainly in our half. Definately a somewhat strange and naive substitution.

I really think we need Kilkenny on the bench next match. I watched him vs Vile reserves and he was great and worked really hard, I cant see the point of having clemence and izzet on the same bench, both similar players neither likely to have a great influence on the score, Kilkenny on the other hand just might,

If Kilkenny is coming through like people say, we've GOT to loan or sell Izzet in January.

He's a name player, but he's never delivered for Birmingham City while he earns (35/45k?).
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Izzett never delivers?

He only played 10 games last season FFS.

I'll ask the same question yet again-

If people are so quick to offer Pandiani excuses for failing to influence games and score goals, "give him time he was carrying an injury last season and missed pre season... bla bla bloody bla" why are they so quick to slaughter other players for the exact same reasons?

Andy Pandi-ani was awful today. He went missing for massive parts of the game leaving Forssell to battle on his own up front.

Izzett is just returning from injury, massive injury. Pandiani twisted his ankle and sat around doing bugger all this summer but we've got to give him a chance. Give Izzett adn, when he's back, Dunn the same chance FFS.
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Sep 10 2005, 08:46 PM
Izzett never delivers?

He only played 10 games last season FFS.

I'll ask the same question yet again-

If people are so quick to offer Pandiani excuses for failing to influence games and score goals, "give him time he was carrying an injury last season and missed pre season... bla bla bloody bla" why are they so quick to slaughter other players for the exact same reasons?

Andy Pandi-ani was awful today. He went missing for massive parts of the game leaving Forssell to battle on his own up front.

Izzett is just returning from injury, massive injury. Pandiani twisted his ankle and sat around doing bugger all this summer but we've got to give him a chance. Give Izzett adn, when he's back, Dunn the same chance FFS.

K-BEK you cannot say things like that about Pandiani. he scored against Man U you know. ;)
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Mikael Forssell
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Oh blimey Willie, I forgot :huh: . He scored a few goals for another club in another country too. Sh!! Thanks for reminding me m8. Gosh I hope I don't say these things again ;)
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Frank Worthington
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Sep 10 2005, 07:46 PM
Izzett never delivers?

He only played 10 games last season FFS.


He played 10 games and contributed in 1 game.

9 games without delivering. Do you think a player can go that many games without contributing?

He's come off the benched and not delivered too.

I thought Izzet was a poor man's Lampard, maybe he still is, but he's not delivering, if he was he'd be in the first team.
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Mikael Forssell
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Pandiani played 13 games last season and delivered in 4 of them.

9 games without delivering.

He's now played 18 games for us and still only scored 4 goals.

15 games without delivering now.

I'll say it again, if it isn't acceptable for other players why are people so quick to accept it from Pandiani?
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k-bek
Sep 10 2005, 08:19 PM
why are people so quick to accept it from Pandiani?

I don't accept it, but he would of scored by now as his stats prove.

I'd want to sell Pandiani if we didn't need him, but we do need him. We might not need Izzet now.
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Mikael Forssell
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As his stats prove?

How is it that people wont accept stats when soemone uses them to counter argue but are quick to use them to back themselves up?


Pandiani's stats?

Pandiani's stats read thus- in English football he's played 18 and scored 4. What's so brillinat about that?
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Sep 10 2005, 07:04 PM
Like everyone else I am very upset after our 3rd home loss on the bounce. One thing I can't fathom is the second half change of jarosik for Izzet.

I could not believe Bruce took off jarosik and replaced him with izzet. I have also reserved judgement on izzet where as others have slated him (dr nick cough cough) :P However, today Jarosik looked like the only player capable of scoring and Izzet looked bloody awful when he came on, he looks slow and over weight and probably had about 2 touches on the ball mainly in our half. Definately a somewhat strange and naive substitution.

I really think we need Kilkenny on the bench next match. I watched him vs Vile reserves and he was great and worked really hard, I cant see the point of having clemence and izzet on the same bench, both similar players neither likely to have a great influence on the score, Kilkenny on the other hand just might,

Jarosik had a calf injury according to Brucie.
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Pandi went missing did he? Did you not see him grafting heloing out the defence? he left forse to help the rest of the team
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Mikael Forssell
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Well let's all hail Pandiani the Messiah.

Sod the Taleban and their fanticism, forget the Christians with their no sex before marriage policy for Walter Pandiani is the 1 man team the world is crying out for.


Next you'll be telling me Pandiani ducked out of training to evacuate New Orleans single handedly last week.
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