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MJ resigns from FA Board after homosexual comments
Topic Started: Jan 8 2014, 07:59 PM (814 Views)
jenni
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Michael Johnson has resigned from the Football Association's inclusion advisory board in the wake of footage emerging that showed the former player describing homosexuality as "detestable".

Johnson, 40, made the comments in 2012 while appearing on a BBC1 series called 'The Big Questions', during which he opted not to back the FA anti-homophobia campaign.


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The FA announced on Tuesday: "The FA can confirm that Michael Johnson has voluntarily stepped down from his role on the Football Association's inclusion advisory board with immediate effect."

Johnson said in a statement released by the FA: "I've taken time over the weekend to reflect on the media coverage from last week and feel that it's in the best interests of all concerned if I step down from my duties with the inclusion advisory board."


http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/former-birmingham-city-star-resigns-6479853

I can't believe he would have come out with a comment as stupid and archaic as that and I really wish our club wasn't associated with comments like that however secondary the link. He says his views have changed, but it was only in 2012 he came out with it. I really hope he has changed but that seems like a really short period of time to change your views so much.
Edited by jenni, Jan 8 2014, 11:31 PM.
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Migster
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Some people are a bit backward, that's the way of the world. Evander Holyfield was up to the same kind of thing on Big Brother the other day, picking a certain bit of the bible to pronounce being gay as wrong.
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Jan 8 2014, 07:59 PM
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Michael Johnson has resigned from the Football Association's inclusion advisory board in the wake of footage emerging that showed the former player describing homosexuality as "detestable".

Johnson, 40, made the comments in 2012 while appearing on a BBC1 series called 'The Big Questions', during which he opted not to back the FA anti-homophobia campaign.


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The FA announced on Tuesday: "The FA can confirm that Michael Johnson has voluntarily stepped down from his role on the Football Association's inclusion advisory board with immediate effect."

Johnson said in a statement released by the FA: "I've taken time over the weekend to reflect on the media coverage from last week and feel that it's in the best interests of all concerned if I step down from my duties with the inclusion advisory board."


http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/incoming/former-birmingham-city-star-resigns-6479853

I can't believe he would have come out with a comment as stupid and archaic as that and I really wish our club wasn't associated with comments like that however secondary the link. He says his views have changed, but it was only in 2012 he came out with it. I really hope he has changed but that seems like a really short period of time to change your views so much.
AJ was correct...Most people think exactly the same...In your PC fantasy world "That will come crashing down in the next few years" he might have "offended" you but in the real world most people agree with him....
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I would say that nowadays the majority of fans couldn't care less whether a player is gay or not - I certainly couldn't. I hope we move on completely so in the future players can admit to being gay if they wish to , no-one bats an eyelid, and we just care about how good they are on the pitch.
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@billyblue1875, Most people in the public eye that may think that way tend to be able to keep their comments to themselves if they do think that way though. They are role models (ok, AJ isn't exactly a high profile one) to children and what they say will effect what a child thinks and how they behave, saying something like that in public is not a good idea especially in a world where it is hard enough for gay/lesbian children to come out.

@neiloi, Your right i would like to think the majority of fans these days couldn't care less if a footballer was gay or not. It won't affect their performance on the pitch and their personal life shouldn't be any of our concern, yes we have an interest but how a footballer lives shouldn't bother us unless they were obviously breaking the law.
Edited by jenni, Jan 8 2014, 10:41 PM.
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Don't want to lecture posters but I have already had to remove 4 or 5 posts from this thread. Please let's keep this debate clean and not personal.
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Just to correct things, it's Michael Johnson who made the comments, not AJ (Andrew Johnson).
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Jan 8 2014, 11:29 PM
Just to correct things, it's Michael Johnson who made the comments, not AJ (Andrew Johnson).
oops my bad what happens when you get no sleep due to windchime going off, changed the title
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So ....a black footballer gets kicked off (or rather forced to step down) an advisory board trying to achieve diversity and acceptance of minorities in football


You couldn't make this stuff up

Michael Johnson has the right to free speech and to express his views in any democracy.....and rejecting homosexuality should never be construed as a 'hate crime' ......but the lazy, lefty liberals often imply that to suit their own agendas

Don't blame him stepping down TBH

The Lord and the Bible denounces homosexuality

Why shouldn't the General public ?......getting sick and tired of gays and lesbians ramming their principles down our throats and whining about anything trivial TBH

Have no qualms with gay people living together as common law partners, having equality when it comes to job and housing applications etc and doing whatever they want in private.......But legalized marriage ? accepting them into the Military ?

The world has gone flippin' mad

MJ was a great player for Blues .......Fair play, Michael.......I'm with you **thumbup

People really need to make a stand against these bloody liberals with nothing better to do in life other than take offence over petty tweets, FB comments and You Tube clips.........Oh ! and a free individual expressing his own views on TV quite some time ago


KRO
Edited by PartisanBCFC, Jan 11 2014, 08:51 PM.
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As another poster it dosent bother me if a player is gay or not just as long as he has balls on the pitch :whistle:
There was something on tv a few weeks back saying that most footballers are thick hmmm i tend to agree :D
I dont care what MJ said he should be entitled to free speech and will allways be a great down at st andys :blues:
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Jan 9 2014, 06:37 AM
So ....a black footballer gets kicked off (or rather forced to step down) an advisory board trying to achieve diversity and acceptance of minorities in football


You couldn't make this stuff up

Michael Johnson has the right to free speech and to express his views in any democracy.....and rejecting homosexuality should never be construed as a 'hate crime' ......but the lazy, lefty liberals often imply that to suit their nown agendas

Don't blame him stepping down TBH

The Lord and the Bible denounces homosexuality

Why shouldn't the General public ?......getting sick and tired of gays and lesbians ramming their principles down our throats and whining about anything trivial TBH

Have no qualms with gay people living together as common law partners, having equality when it comes to job and housing applications etc and doing whatever they want in private.......But legalized marriage ? accepting them into the Military ?

The world has gone flippin' mad

MJ was a great player for Blues .......Fair play, Michael.......I'm with you **thumbup

People really need to make a stand against these bloody liberals with nothing better to do in life other than take offence over petty tweets, FB comments and You Tube clips.........Oh ! and a free individual expressing his own views on TV quite some time ago


KRO
In amongst this 1930's themed rant, one bit particuarly amuses and interests me. What's your issue with gay people in the Armed Forces?

(Apologies to others for the mild deviation (no pun intended) in this thread).
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Now to be fair to Magic, he's said that he longer holds these views, so good on him for learning stuff and improving.

Just as an aside, if you're going to use the Bible to denounce homosexuality, can you help me out with these please?

1. Leviticus 25:44 states that I may possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighbouring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to the Welsh, but not Scots. Can you clarify? Why can’t I own Scots?

2. I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

3. I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness – Lev.15: 19-24. The problem is how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

4. When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord – Lev.1:9. The problem is, my neighbours. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

5. I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath.Exodus 35:2. clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself, or should I ask the police to do it?

6. A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination – Lev. 11:10, it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don’t agree. Can you settle this? Are there ‘degrees’ of abomination?

7. Lev. 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear contact lenses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some room here?

8. Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev. 19:27. How should they die?

9. My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev.19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? Lev.24:10-16. Couldn’t we just burn them to death at a private family affair, like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

Edited by Migster, Jan 9 2014, 09:34 AM.
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The only reason homosexuality is thrust down anyone's throat (to quote an earlier post), is like any bigotry lead, hate related issue, it needs publicity to redress the irrational behaviour of the bigots.

Why would anyone's sexual preferences which harm no-one trouble any other human being? Why would they want to get involved? Why would they hate?

Much like racism in sport, unless it is made into a public issue and reported well, it continues.
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Jan 9 2014, 09:50 AM
The only reason homosexuality is thrust down anyone's throat (to quote an earlier post), is like any bigotry lead, hate related issue, it needs publicity to redress the irrational behaviour of the bigots.

Why would anyone's sexual preferences which harm no-one trouble any other human being? Why would they want to get involved? Why would they hate?

Much like racism in sport, unless it is made into a public issue and reported well, it continues.
and like any other issue unless it engages those that hold the opposite view it will remain unresolved.Homosexuality was illegal,the battle for that to be redressed has been won and now discrimination is illegal so the sands have shifted..has this made things better well for me no it hasnt and we wonder why ?

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Jan 9 2014, 10:14 AM
Lewis
Jan 9 2014, 09:50 AM
The only reason homosexuality is thrust down anyone's throat (to quote an earlier post), is like any bigotry lead, hate related issue, it needs publicity to redress the irrational behaviour of the bigots.

Why would anyone's sexual preferences which harm no-one trouble any other human being? Why would they want to get involved? Why would they hate?

Much like racism in sport, unless it is made into a public issue and reported well, it continues.
and like any other issue unless it engages those that hold the opposite view it will remain unresolved.Homosexuality was illegal,the battle for that to be redressed has been won and now discrimination is illegal so the sands have shifted..has this made things better well for me no it hasnt and we wonder why ?

Well quite. Best emigrate now before it becomes compulsory...
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Jan 9 2014, 06:37 AM
So ....a black footballer gets kicked off (or rather forced to step down) an advisory board trying to achieve diversity and acceptance of minorities in football


You couldn't make this stuff up

Michael Johnson has the right to free speech and to express his views in any democracy.....and rejecting homosexuality should never be construed as a 'hate crime' ......but the lazy, lefty liberals often imply that to suit their nown agendas

Don't blame him stepping down TBH

The Lord and the Bible denounces homosexuality

Why shouldn't the General public ?......getting sick and tired of gays and lesbians ramming their principles down our throats and whining about anything trivial TBH

Have no qualms with gay people living together as common law partners, having equality when it comes to job and housing applications etc and doing whatever they want in private.......But legalized marriage ? accepting them into the Military ?

The world has gone flippin' mad

MJ was a great player for Blues .......Fair play, Michael.......I'm with you **thumbup

People really need to make a stand against these bloody liberals with nothing better to do in life other than take offence over petty tweets, FB comments and You Tube clips.........Oh ! and a free individual expressing his own views on TV quite some time ago


KRO

He was asked to step down from the board trying to achieve equality in minorities because his views were opposite of what he was trying to achieve, yes he wanted racism out of the sport but apparently not homophobia, is that because it doesn't affect him?

The bible was written at a time when attitudes were different in a lot of ways, during the time of Jesus Greeks/Romans were going at it like rabbits with other men/women, then suddenly Christianity came about and attitudes changed due to being afraid of god.

Just because the bible denounces homosexuality doesn't mean the public HAVE to follow suit, there is a lot of stuff in the bible that today just seems wrong and totally unethical, surely you don't sanction the use of slavery? But then you must because the bible tells you to and you obviously follow what the bible says as you seem to follow its teachings on homosexuality.

And what is wrong with accepting gay people into the military? Do you think they will be too busy having sex with other men/women in the field of combat to grab a gun and kill other people? Apparently it is ok to kill people and keep slaves but not to have sex with someone of the same gender. Then of course it wasn't until too recently that women were not allowed onto the field of combat, should women just stay at home and make the bullets? Or should the army be progressive, just like the rest of the world.
Edited by jenni, Jan 9 2014, 11:07 AM.
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Just a view on MJ. I listen to Blues Player where MJ is a co-commentator. Quite often he uses the wrong word to describe a particular situation. It's just, I believe, that there is no 'malic' in the man and he might well have simply spoken before he thought it through.

This isn't a defence, simply an observation and I cannot get excited about it.

Remember 'big Ron" ? That cost him his commentator's job. Hope it doesn't cost MJ his.
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Jan 9 2014, 11:02 AM
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Jan 9 2014, 06:37 AM
So ....a black footballer gets kicked off (or rather forced to step down) an advisory board trying to achieve diversity and acceptance of minorities in football


You couldn't make this stuff up

Michael Johnson has the right to free speech and to express his views in any democracy.....and rejecting homosexuality should never be construed as a 'hate crime' ......but the lazy, lefty liberals often imply that to suit their nown agendas

Don't blame him stepping down TBH

The Lord and the Bible denounces homosexuality

Why shouldn't the General public ?......getting sick and tired of gays and lesbians ramming their principles down our throats and whining about anything trivial TBH

Have no qualms with gay people living together as common law partners, having equality when it comes to job and housing applications etc and doing whatever they want in private.......But legalized marriage ? accepting them into the Military ?

The world has gone flippin' mad

MJ was a great player for Blues .......Fair play, Michael.......I'm with you **thumbup

People really need to make a stand against these bloody liberals with nothing better to do in life other than take offence over petty tweets, FB comments and You Tube clips.........Oh ! and a free individual expressing his own views on TV quite some time ago


KRO

He was asked to step down from the board trying to achieve equality in minorities because his views were opposite of what he was trying to achieve, yes he wanted racism out of the sport but apparently not homophobia, is that because it doesn't affect him?

The bible was written at a time when attitudes were different in a lot of ways, during the time of Jesus Greeks/Romans were going at it like rabbits with other men/women, then suddenly Christianity came about and attitudes changed due to being afraid of god.

Just because the bible denounces homosexuality doesn't mean the public HAVE to follow suit, there is a lot of stuff in the bible that today just seems wrong and totally unethical, surely you don't sanction the use of slavery? But then you must because the bible tells you to and you obviously follow what the bible says as you seem to follow its teachings on homosexuality.

And what is wrong with accepting gay people into the military? Do you think they will be too busy having sex with other men/women in the field of combat to grab a gun and kill other people? Apparently it is ok to kill people and keep slaves but not to have sex with someone of the same gender. Then of course it wasn't until too recently that women were not allowed onto the field of combat, should women just stay at home and make the bullets? Or should the army be progressive, just like the rest of the world.
yeah and the lion male population are having a love in.
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Well at least we should agree that homosexuality isn't unnatural, since the natural world practices homosexuality as well.
http://listverse.com/2013/04/20/10-animals-that-practice-homosexuality/
I love the name of number 6 by the way. :LOL:
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..zz.. Another MASSIVE overeaction from the PC brigade.
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another thread about to descend into the personal...

It is a serious issue,like many in the " Real World" how are they solved,by taking a side and simply dismissing the beliefs of others in favour of your own ? I doubt that will resolve anything...take for instance Women's rights would these have ever been established had only women ever embraced the subject,ooohhh dont talk to the men well after all they are men what would they know..

There is a massive shift in opinion,many are now tolerant and thats an appropriate word..
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Jan 9 2014, 12:52 PM
Well at least we should agree that homosexuality isn't unnatural, since the natural world practices homosexuality as well.
http://listverse.com/2013/04/20/10-animals-that-practice-homosexuality/
I love the name of number 6 by the way. :LOL:
Be careful. This may be a classic case of shooting yourself in the foot.

There may be some on this board who would use this as an excuse for equating human homosexuals with animals !

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This should be moved from Blues Chat and placed in Football Chat. Just a suggestion
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Jan 9 2014, 04:37 PM
This should be moved from Blues Chat and placed in Football Chat. Just a suggestion
It's 2014. It should be placed in the Jokes section if we're being honest.
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Jan 9 2014, 09:18 AM
In amongst this 1930's themed rant, one bit particuarly amuses and interests me. What's your issue with gay people in the Armed Forces?




Bad for morale in an era of major conflict (which we haven't really witnessed in more than 60 years) ......just a view I strongly believe in.....I have no issue at all with women serving in the Military either but again would a force of women be viable if a major conflict such as WW2 were to envelope most of the planet

And my rant is hardly symbolic of the 1930's .......Most of us are aware that the LBGT community have had to face prejudice and discrimination in the Armed Forces right up to the turn of this current Millenium.....in fact the biggest military power on the planet by far , The United Sates of America, did not repeal it's ban on gays in the Military until just over 2 years ago

And there are more nations that still prohibit gay personnel in the Military than those who don't .....although it is fair to say the notion of tolerance is far more prevalent in the Western world and it's major powers ....e.g...USA, Canada, nearly all EU countries, Israel, Russia, China, Japan


However today in most of the Islamic world homosexuality is not socially or legally accepted. In nine Muslim countries, Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, the UAE, and Yemen, homosexual activity carries the death penalty.

Seems there is still work to be done in the Muslim world ,eh ??


What's your take on that then ? Oh ! righteous one


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