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| Tweet Topic Started: Dec 12 2005, 01:22 PM (1,168 Views) | |
| jpkengland | Dec 12 2005, 01:22 PM Post #1 |
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Steve Claridge
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**** me, this is quickly becoming Gronkear Part 2. Give the lad some bloody slack. He's an amazingly important player for us. No, he might not be a blood and thunder scrappy player but when we need an extra attacking option or some flair and vision he is immense. Different players for different situations. |
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| Blooboy | Dec 12 2005, 01:26 PM Post #2 |
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i haven't been that against him.... but you gotta admit he pulled out of certain things against West Ham. hence the reason he's been dropped. |
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| stevio11 | Dec 12 2005, 01:26 PM Post #3 |
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What attcking flair, he was crap last season and is worse than crap this season.WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES |
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| StAndrews4Eva | Dec 12 2005, 01:29 PM Post #4 |
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Whilst i am not "on his back " as such (well i wasnt the last timei checked anyway) i do feel some of the criticism of Gray is fair. He lacks bottle. He doesnt tackle, he runs scared from full backs who will rough him up a bit and he doesnt fight for the team enough. Players like Gray are luxury players - we cant have people like that in our team at the moment. |
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| jpkengland | Dec 12 2005, 01:31 PM Post #5 |
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Steve Claridge
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You takin **** mate? Last year, like every other player, he had good and bad games but on the whole he looked impressive - especially when he owned, let me say that again, OWNED Rooney. He certainly didn't pull out of any takles that day. This year he's been one of the few players to look dangerous and do that thing we seem to have a problem with. Score. |
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| Grayday | Dec 12 2005, 01:33 PM Post #6 |
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he is a free transfer so nothing lost nothing gained sell him in janaury and bring in some battlers |
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| jpkengland | Dec 12 2005, 01:35 PM Post #7 |
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Steve Claridge
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And have what? A team filled with just battlers? What a fantastic array of options we would then have. We've got battlers by the plenty and don't need any more. We do however need the occasional player that has the skill to unlock teams, a.k.a. players like Gray and Pennant. |
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| barryblue | Dec 12 2005, 01:37 PM Post #8 |
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spot on..........he is a blues player! try him as a sub when the full back is tired! |
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| Blue16 | Dec 12 2005, 01:37 PM Post #9 |
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Malcom Page
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gray is a good player he just has his off days like evereyone else |
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| Grayday | Dec 12 2005, 01:40 PM Post #10 |
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i cant remember the last goal gray setup tbh can only remember tap ins from 6 yards out we can do better than him, with stanley on the left wing atleast he takes on defenders and gets the crosses in gray runs with the ball then gets worried he is gonna get a knock on his ankles, bloke is a woman and needs a kick up the ass, over paid over rated lazy **** that needs to be sold |
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| Somerset_Blue | Dec 12 2005, 01:41 PM Post #11 |
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Steve Claridge
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I agree hes a luxury and should only be be used as an extra attacking option from the bench, infact i think pennant should be used that way too. the only reason Gray is playing regulary is due to injuries. |
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| jpkengland | Dec 12 2005, 01:43 PM Post #12 |
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What are on mate and where can I get some? Remember Fulham on the first day? Skips past 3 players like they weren't there. Remember Sunderland and Milwall? He's scoring goals and that's what we need more than anything else? |
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| BornBlueNosed | Dec 12 2005, 01:45 PM Post #13 |
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I just posted this in another thread but I will repost it here :-
I will add that Gray was bought as a flair player and not a battler and SB was right in that in the long term if we want to progress we cannot be a team of battlers. Some people here only like players who run around a lot and look like they are working hard but its not always necessary to run around like a blue ar**d fly in order to work for the team. Clever positional play and reading the game can save a lot of wasted effort and produce results. That said what we need at this time is a team who will battle to the end to get us out of the relegation battle we find ourselves in as flair players also seem to be more driven by confidence and as a team we have none which leads to a cycle of defeats. BBN |
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| Big Blue | Dec 12 2005, 01:52 PM Post #14 |
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I dont mind Jules - he was, however, awful against West Ham and has been patchy for most of the season. Get more consistancy from him - toughen him up a bit and I think we'll have something that is hard to find - a quality Left Winger. He at least gambles on getting in the box and should at least have 4 goals by now (Villa/West Ham). What Stan did on Saturday was almost as bad as Julian's West ham performance but because it's good old Stan we can let him off. Right?! |
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| west sussex blue nose | Dec 12 2005, 02:48 PM Post #15 |
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we played with ten men against west ham because Gray hid. At no point in that game did he make any attempt to want the ball or lose his marker. He managed to back out of every 50/50 challenge he was involved in. He was lack lustre and appeared to be going through the motions - no effort whatsoever and I was disgusted by his apathy. |
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| jassyblue80 | Dec 12 2005, 02:52 PM Post #16 |
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Trevor Francis
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he always looks decent coming of the bench |
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| charliedontsurf | Dec 12 2005, 04:04 PM Post #17 |
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There are game when Gray is a virtual passenger. However, despite the fact he has not started regularly, he has STILL scored more goals and set up more than many of our mdifielders. If we play Dunn on the left, there is no room for Gray. However, he should definitely start ahead of Stan who, lets be fair, has looked poor whenever he has played for a couple of season now and is too old/injured. |
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| txblues | Dec 12 2005, 04:29 PM Post #18 |
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Whils't i am not a fan of Gray not every player has to be a hard working ,hard tackling player.He does seem to be too much of a luxury at the moment though,not what is required in desperate times. |
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| west sussex blue nose | Dec 12 2005, 04:31 PM Post #19 |
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sorry, dont agree at all. Gray gives the impression that he couldnt give a toss, its all too much of an effort for him - when stanley runs at a player it is with conviction, agreed he isn't the best at defending but at least he tracks back, Gray is lazy - he didnt even break sweat against west ham. Gray or Stanley ? - Stanley every time. |
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| 7.pennant | Dec 12 2005, 04:45 PM Post #20 |
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ive said this before and i will say it again. When he scores everyone is gray i love you, your the best blah blah when the team looses he is the one with the most critics" get out,useless" blah blah. People use to critize players such as dj and clemence this week havnt seen a bad word about them but if blues loose will they get the blame? Just give him time. If people carry on like this he will leave like grokjear and people will boo him and that isnt right!!How many better left wingers do we have 1! David dunn. |
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| Mr. Barnard | Dec 12 2005, 05:10 PM Post #21 |
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Here's a selection of the negative condemnations of a Blues player form this thread alone. he was crap last season and is worse than crap this season He lacks bottle. He doesnt tackle, he runs scared from full backs who will rough him up a bit and he doesnt fight for the team enough. Players like Gray are luxury players - we cant have people like that in our team at the moment. gray runs with the ball then gets worried he is gonna get a knock on his ankles, bloke is a woman and needs a kick up the ass, over paid over rated lazy **** that needs to be sold we played with ten men against west ham because Gray hid. At no point in that game did he make any attempt to want the ball or lose his marker. He managed to back out of every 50/50 challenge he was involved in. He was lack lustre and appeared to be going through the motions - no effort whatsoever and I was disgusted by his apathy. Gray gives the impression that he couldnt give a toss, its all too much of an effort for him How fans find it in them to outright condemn, abuse, slag off our players I will never understand or agree with. It is not my idea of support. No one of these posters mentions the fact that Gray has ben playing with injuries for most of this season, not one of them gives a Blues player any quarter. The positive comments on the thread have mentioned the things that Gray has done, but they are just ignored by the slaggers. Yes it's another Gronkear situation, the unthinking destruction of blues players. Not acceptable in my book, and never will be. Just imagine for a second that Gray is about to turn into the most fantastic player Blues have ever signed, but we will never see it happen becuase these assassins have made the boy leave us beforee he gets the chance. I would like to have a situation where Steve Bruce is the only person picking from our squad, instead of having Gronkear, Bowyer, Gray, removed before Bruce gets to pick. I would prefer SB to buy and sell players, I do not want a bunch of thugs doing the job for him. You might find these strong words, well, I feel very strongly about the subject. So apologies if it hurts, but someone has got to stop this rot. |
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| djmmusic | Dec 12 2005, 05:11 PM Post #22 |
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Alex Govan
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No YOU wake up :D I take the point that he's no good in a battle, but: Gray scores goals - remember those? ;) Good ones too. Like someone else said, as an attacking option from the bench he's great. |
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| Bookemdanno | Dec 12 2005, 05:12 PM Post #23 |
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Alex Govan
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The frustrating thing is Gray CAN do so much better! BUT you can see it when hes not commited or be arsed! Whether its confidence or lack of bottle, god knows. But hes got pace, height, and energy to be a game breaker. He gets into good postions, fluffs his shots, then drops his head and goes hiding. Its how he applies himself that counts tho. .....and against West Ham, despite scoring against Sunderland and Millwall, he was lazy!!! At a time, when we need people to have a belly for the fight!!! He is at the end of the 26 not 19, its time he adjusted! |
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| Bookemdanno | Dec 12 2005, 05:17 PM Post #24 |
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Alex Govan
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I'm trying, but its just not really happening! wtf** If you have been pleased with his overall performances lately Pat. Well the whole team, as a matter of fact, and are happy with our current plight, then i'm glad Pat! I just hope your wacky backy doesn't run out! |
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| Paul Tait's Tee-Shirt | Dec 12 2005, 05:30 PM Post #25 |
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The guy clearly shows no heart, no bottle, no stomach for a fight. He is happy to drift along and pick up his over-inflated wage packet whilst contributing the bare minimum to the team imo. What makes his attitude more upsetting, is that he does have skill and pace and on his day he can be very good. That day doesn't come often enough ! When he's up against a "nasty" full back he hides, shirks challenges and doesn't want the ball. Anyone in any doubt about his attitude should read what Bruce said prior to the Fulham game about dropping the players who have "LET ME DOWN". We all now know who he meant ! He has been "sussed out ". The team picked on Saturday gave everything they had and I was proud of everyone of them. Some have less ability than Mr Gray, but all showed a pride in the Blue shirt, something he clearly lacks ! |
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