Welcome Guest [Log In] [Register]
Welcome to bcfcforum.co.uk. We hope you enjoy your visit.


You're currently viewing our forum as a guest. This means you are limited to certain areas of the board and there are some features you can't use. If you join our community, you'll be able to access member-only sections, and use many member-only features such as customizing your profile, sending personal messages, and voting in polls. Registration is simple, fast, and completely free.


Join our community!


If you're already a member please log in to your account to access all of our features:

Username:   Password:
Add Reply
Labour
Topic Started: Jan 16 2006, 02:51 PM (169 Views)
TJDIXI
Member Avatar
Trevor Francis
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
Can you honestly trust anything that the Labour party comes out with anymore. The Iraq and weapons of mass destructions debacle and the loss of a mans life surely must have been enough for a government to reasess itself and look at what it is doing. However i have become so frustrated with the soundbites that i watch and hear that they are becoming more and more within the relm of fantasy thanks to a wonderful job of spin.

Do the powers that be in the Labour NEC not see the damage that they are causing to there party right now. I no longer can trust anything that that any government minister says because below it you know theres a horrible web of lies and destruction that they have built up.

The latest in a lonf line of political bloopers is the Rt Hon Ruth Kellys department for education and the disgraceful foul up they have made of something that in essence is quite clear. I listened to Ruths apology speech and i have to say it was the most luke warm apology i have ever heard. Throughout it she managed to avoid the main issue and showed how shallow her and the department are by not knowing how far or how deep this issue lies.

This latest blooper is why i feel we cannot let this government take us down the path that they would like to lead us down towards the depth of rule by fear and a liberty less society.

I am worried that we have 4 more years of this terror in Westminster.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
The_Bear
Member Avatar
Gil Merrick
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
They are all as bad as one another IMO, In my time I have been a Labour supporter and recently a Liberal supporter now I am a deface my ballot paper supporter! Bunch of no good double dealing self afacing toss pots!
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
proccy_blues
Joe Bradford
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
The_Bear
Jan 16 2006, 03:00 PM
They are all as bad as one another IMO, In my time I have been a Labour supporter and recently a Liberal supporter now I am a deface my ballot paper supporter!  Bunch of no good double dealing self afacing toss pots!

.........and so says the mp for bromsgrove east :lol:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
puds
Martin Grainger
[ *  *  * ]
TJDIXI
Jan 16 2006, 02:51 PM
Can you honestly trust anything that the Labour party comes out with anymore. The Iraq and weapons of mass destructions debacle and the loss of a mans life surely must have been enough for a government to reasess itself and look at what it is doing. However i have become so frustrated with the soundbites that i watch and hear that they are becoming more and more within the relm of fantasy thanks to a wonderful job of spin.

Do the powers that be in the Labour NEC not see the damage that they are causing to there party right now. I no longer can trust anything that that any government minister says because below it you know theres a horrible web of lies and destruction that they have built up.

The latest in a lonf line of political bloopers is the Rt Hon Ruth Kellys department for education and the disgraceful foul up they have made of something that in essence is quite clear. I listened to Ruths apology speech and i have to say it was the most luke warm apology i have ever heard. Throughout it she managed to avoid the main issue and showed how shallow her and the department are by not knowing how far or how deep this issue lies.

This latest blooper is why i feel we cannot let this government take us down the path that they would like to lead us down towards the depth of rule by fear and a liberty less society.

I am worried that we have 4 more years of this terror in Westminster.

I suppose we could always go back for another dose of Thatcherism!

No thank you.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
TJDIXI
Member Avatar
Trevor Francis
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
puds
Jan 16 2006, 04:06 PM
I suppose we could always go back for another dose of Thatcherism!

No thank you.

If you would like to push me down the stairs, break all my fingers one by one or even peel off my tonails but never ever utter that womans name in such polite company again. I think there are a good few options left before we go back to totalitarianism.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
jassyblue80
Member Avatar
Trevor Francis
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
puds
Jan 16 2006, 03:06 PM
TJDIXI
Jan 16 2006, 02:51 PM
Can you honestly trust anything that the Labour party comes out with anymore. The Iraq and weapons of mass destructions debacle and the loss of a mans life surely must have been enough for a government to reasess itself and look at what it is doing. However i have become so frustrated with the soundbites that i watch and hear that they are becoming more and more within the relm of fantasy thanks to a wonderful job of spin.

Do the powers that be in the Labour NEC not see the damage that they are causing to there party right now. I no longer can trust anything that that any government minister says because below it you know theres a horrible web of lies and destruction that they have built up.

The latest in a lonf line of political bloopers is the Rt Hon Ruth Kellys department for education and the disgraceful foul up they have made of something that in essence is quite clear. I listened to Ruths apology speech and i have to say it was the most luke warm apology i have ever heard. Throughout it she managed to avoid the main issue and showed how shallow her and the department are by not knowing how far or how deep this issue lies.

This latest blooper is why i feel we cannot let this government take us down the path that they would like to lead us down towards the depth of rule by fear and a liberty less society.

I am worried that we have 4 more years of this terror in Westminster.

I suppose we could always go back for another dose of Thatcherism!

No thank you.

totally agree

obviously people only see all the bad a govenment does, I for one am happy with the efforts the government has put in over health and other important issues (of course they could do more... they always can)

but if we were still under a tory government now we would not have free health care thats for sure :angry:

we can never go back to those days
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Aussiebrum
Member Avatar
Mikael Forssell
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
At least you have optional voting.

Here we are forced to vote, compulsory voting. If you don't vote you get fined.

I want to have your right - the right not to vote if I don't want to.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
BlooNose
Frank Worthington
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Aussiebrum
Jan 16 2006, 08:51 PM
If you don't vote you get fined.


That's a bit harsh isn't it? :unsure:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Tubs2
Paul Tait
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
This governmnet (one I voted for for the first 2 of their 3 terms) can't be trusted without a change of leadership. Blair has shown himself to be a weak puppet of the corporation and not a representative of the people. Yes, he has worked hard for some of the worlds poor and though fell short of full debt cancellation, did make a huge dent in that debt. Not so admirable is his attempt to lower the percentage of people living in poverty in the middle east by droping bombs on them. Bombed them to liberty and out of poverty. On absolutley no evidence.

At the time he said time would be his judge. He said he couldn't tell us the intelligence and we had to trust him. Since then lie after lie in his case for risking the lives of our good service men and women has been exposed. Since then it has transpired that he was informed that the intelligence was fiction. Time has judged him. And time has found him guilty of genocide. I look forward to the day he is impeached, then imprisoned.

I could never vote for this governmnet. Not this murderous government.

Gazza
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Forward62
Member Avatar
Malcom Page
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Aussiebrum
Jan 16 2006, 08:51 PM
At least you have optional voting.

Here we are forced to vote, compulsory voting. If you don't vote you get fined.

I want to have your right - the right not to vote if I don't want to.

Like the anarchists always say, if voting actually changed anything they'd abolish it. The older I get, the more this is true.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
historian
Steve Claridge
[ *  *  * ]
I have to agree that voting seems slightly pointless at the moment. I used to think that people who didn't vote were just wasting their chance to make a difference, but at the end of the day, what difference will it really make? Say David Cameron is very successful as leader of the Tories, and is PM in 5 years time, what will be the difference between him and the Labour government under Tony Blair as it is today? They're so similar it's unbelievable, i just try to stay away from politics because when i think about it, it can really make me incensed, giving idiots a lot of power to play with.
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
dr.nick
Member Avatar
Trevor Francis
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
historian
Jan 16 2006, 09:52 PM
I have to agree that voting seems slightly pointless at the moment. I used to think that people who didn't vote were just wasting their chance to make a difference, but at the end of the day, what difference will it really make? Say David Cameron is very successful as leader of the Tories, and is PM in 5 years time, what will be the difference between him and the Labour government under Tony Blair as it is today? They're so similar it's unbelievable, i just try to stay away from politics because when i think about it, it can really make me incensed, giving idiots a lot of power to play with.

**thumbup good post and spot on

my god have i just agreed with a villa fan :o :D
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
historian
Steve Claridge
[ *  *  * ]
dr.nick
Jan 16 2006, 09:56 PM
historian
Jan 16 2006, 09:52 PM
I have to agree that voting seems slightly pointless at the moment. I used to think that people who didn't vote were just wasting their chance to make a difference, but at the end of the day, what difference will it really make? Say David Cameron is very successful as leader of the Tories, and is PM in 5 years time, what will be the difference between him and the Labour government under Tony Blair as it is today? They're so similar it's unbelievable, i just try to stay away from politics because when i think about it, it can really make me incensed, giving idiots a lot of power to play with.

**thumbup good post and spot on

my god have i just agreed with a villa fan :o :D

Indeed you have! Must just be football we disagree on, and at the end of the day, i'm getting more and more gutted at the thought of blues going down, because it's not the same without the derbies
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
Forward62
Member Avatar
Malcom Page
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
historian
Jan 16 2006, 10:00 PM
dr.nick
Jan 16 2006, 09:56 PM
historian
Jan 16 2006, 09:52 PM
I have to agree that voting seems slightly pointless at the moment. I used to think that people who didn't vote were just wasting their chance to make a difference, but at the end of the day, what difference will it really make? Say David Cameron is very successful as leader of the Tories, and is PM in 5 years time, what will be the difference between him and the Labour government under Tony Blair as it is today? They're so similar it's unbelievable, i just try to stay away from politics because when i think about it, it can really make me incensed, giving idiots a lot of power to play with.

**thumbup good post and spot on

my god have i just agreed with a villa fan :o :D

Indeed you have! Must just be football we disagree on, and at the end of the day, i'm getting more and more gutted at the thought of blues going down, because it's not the same without the derbies

Bruce needs to print this off and stick it on the dressing room wall

"Come on lads, think of the villa fans"
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
dr.nick
Member Avatar
Trevor Francis
[ *  *  *  *  *  *  * ]
historian
Jan 16 2006, 10:00 PM
dr.nick
Jan 16 2006, 09:56 PM
historian
Jan 16 2006, 09:52 PM
I have to agree that voting seems slightly pointless at the moment. I used to think that people who didn't vote were just wasting their chance to make a difference, but at the end of the day, what difference will it really make? Say David Cameron is very successful as leader of the Tories, and is PM in 5 years time, what will be the difference between him and the Labour government under Tony Blair as it is today? They're so similar it's unbelievable, i just try to stay away from politics because when i think about it, it can really make me incensed, giving idiots a lot of power to play with.

**thumbup good post and spot on

my god have i just agreed with a villa fan :o :D

Indeed you have! Must just be football we disagree on, and at the end of the day, i'm getting more and more gutted at the thought of blues going down, because it's not the same without the derbies

yeah i know but we'll be back stronger than ever **thumbup
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
garrybaldy
foley okenla, richie moran
[ *  *  *  *  * ]
Labour Schlabour :angry:
Offline Profile Quote Post Goto Top
 
1 user reading this topic (1 Guest and 0 Anonymous)
ZetaBoards - Free Forum Hosting
Free Forums. Reliable service with over 8 years of experience.
« Previous Topic · General Chat · Next Topic »
Add Reply

Forum Design by Hirsty.