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Injuries This Season
Topic Started: Mar 22 2006, 05:28 PM (215 Views)
Blacksmith
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Taking the player list from the programme, this is how I see it:

Maik Taylor - Can't remember, but think he had a short-term injury
Martin Taylor - Yes
Clapham - Yes
Cunningham - Yes
Upson - Yes
Izzet - Yes
Pennant - No
Latka - Yes
Forsell - Yes
Dunn - Yes
Lazaridis - Yes
Nafti - Yes
Jarosik - Yes
Kilkenny - Yes
Heskey - Yes
Vaesen - Can't remember
Butt - Yes
Gray - Yes
Johnson - No - But had suspensions
Alex Bruce - No - But had a suspension
Clemence - Yes
Tebily - Yes
Campell - No - But cup tied
Melchiot - Yes
Painter - No
Birley - No
Sutton - Yes


Total Yes=19 No=6 Unsure=2

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now, that's some injury list, and whilst I don't want to use it as an excuse, I do seriously wonder how other teams would have coped. I would like to know why we get so many and why this seems the case going right back to the TF days.

Do we sign too many crocks?
Are some reaching the end of their careers and therefore susceptible to more injuries?
Why do we have so many long-term injuries?
Are some things that players would have played with in the past?
Are our training methods to blame?
Is our training pitch to blame?
Why do so many happen during training?
Are we still under the Gypsy curse?

Surely, it needs serious examination and something being done about it because I'm getting fed up with all our injuries.
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Blacksmith
Mar 22 2006, 05:28 PM
Taking the player list from the programme, this is how I see it:

Maik Taylor - Can't remember, but think he had a short-term injury
Martin Taylor - Yes
Clapham - Yes
Cunningham - Yes
Upson - Yes
Izzet - Yes
Pennant - No
Latka - Yes
Forsell - Yes
Dunn - Yes
Lazaridis - Yes
Nafti - Yes
Jarosik - Yes
Kilkenny - Yes
Heskey - Yes
Vaesen - Can't remember
Butt - Yes
Gray - Yes
Johnson - No - But had suspensions
Alex Bruce - No - But had a suspension
Clemence - Yes
Tebily - Yes
Campell - No - But cup tied
Melchiot - Yes
Painter - No
Birley - No
Sutton - Yes


Total Yes=19 No=6 Unsure=2

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Now, that's some injury list, and whilst I don't want to use it as an excuse, I do seriously wonder how other teams would have coped. I would like to know why we get so many and why this seems the case going right back to the TF days.

Do we sign too many crocks?
Are some reaching the end of their careers and therefore susceptible to more injuries?
Why do we have so many long-term injuries?
Are some things that players would have played with in the past?
Are our training methods to blame?
Is our training pitch to blame?
Why do so many happen during training?
Are we still under the Gypsy curse?

Surely, it needs serious examination and something being done about it because I'm getting fed up with all our injuries.

pennant went off injured during the last match with a dead leg. just to make your list complete
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DuDuDugarry
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Good points Blackie. Chelsea aside I don't beleive any club could cope with that injury list, let alone a club still finding its feet in this league. Tom Ross made the point last night that when West Ham dropped 6 of their first teamers, they shipped 4 goals at home.

Last night has little to do with the injuries IMO, there was just not enough effort and the basics were not done. However, we've missed a huge number of our first choice players all season. Couple that with our strikers being so shot shy and you have the prefect recipe for relegation.
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Very good point made here. BT last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available. If that had been Liverpool we would have won 7-0.
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Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
Very good point made here. BT last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available. If that had been Liverpool we would have won 7-0.

You're having a laugh, aren't you?

Don't answer that, I know damn well you're being serious. Had Liverpool had 10 first teamers out last night it would have probably ended up 0-0. Assuming, of course, that their eighth-choice striker didn't win the game for them with their only shot on goal.

Injuries are a factor, but this isn't a recent problem. Something is clearly wrong with our training methods or preparation, whatever Dunn might say to the Evening Mail. Our players clearly don't take their fitness that seriously or else they might try warming up properly. Of course, if Bruce concentrated on spending his funds on young, fit and hungry players instead of assembling "the best squad" we've ever had (a squad full of big names past their prime), then maybe we wouldn't be bemoaning injuries again and again.

Bloody hell, we went to Old Trafford with Matt Sadler as left back and Geoff Horsfield in the centre of defence and we gave them a game. Our injury ravaged team - still staffed with so-called Nationwide League players and two ring rusty defenders (Michael Johnson and Steve Vickers) with an untried player at right back and God knows who at left back only shipped four at home to a magnificent Arsenal side. So using injuries for an excuse for last night's pitiful performance - never mind the rest of the season - just doesn't wash, sorry.
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abblue
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Please read:

http://s4.invisionfree.com/BLUES_FORUM/ind...showtopic=13299

and maybe think again ?
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DuDuDugarry
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abblue
Mar 22 2006, 06:22 PM

No-one is blaming injuries on last nights result. So please read that.
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Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available.

Ok, so : Upson, Butt (?), Izzet, Heskey...

Who were the six other FIRST CHOICE players that were not available ?
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Blacksmith
Mar 22 2006, 05:28 PM
Do we sign too many crocks?
Are some reaching the end of their careers and therefore susceptible to more injuries?

yes and yes
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Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
Very good point made here. BT last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available. If that had been Liverpool we would have won 7-0.

name those 10 players.

Jiri has already been benched when fully fit - despite being our top scorer.
Nafti hasn't played all season.
Kenny would have been picked ahead of Latka.
Izzet is never fit and hasn't been for two nearly 18 months.
Butt & Grey are no better, possibly worse than what we already had out there.
Sutton hasn't been fit either and may not have been picked ahead of Forss.

I'll give you Heskey & Upson.

So, a massive two missing from our "full strength" starting line up.

Injuries are not the reason we are going down or got tanked 0-7.

Bruce is.

Put him (and us) out of our misery before the club suffers untold damage.


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mr penguin
Mar 22 2006, 08:29 PM
Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available.

Ok, so : Upson, Butt (?), Izzet, Heskey...

Who were the six other FIRST CHOICE players that were not available ?

JJ
DJC
EH
MI
NB
MN
MU
ML
CS
JG
oh and to make 11
SL (on the bench but not risked due to injury)
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Wisel
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number8
Mar 22 2006, 08:36 PM
Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
Very good point made here. BT last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available. If that had been Liverpool we would have won 7-0.

name those 10 players.

Jiri has already been benched when fully fit - despite being our top scorer.
Nafti hasn't played all season.
Kenny would have been picked ahead of Latka.
Izzet is never fit and hasn't been for two nearly 18 months.
Butt & Grey are no better, possibly worse than what we already had out there.
Sutton hasn't been fit either and may not have been picked ahead of Forss.

I'll give you Heskey & Upson.

So, a massive two missing from our "full strength" starting line up.

Injuries are not the reason we are going down or got tanked 0-7.

Bruce is.

Put him (and us) out of our misery before the club suffers untold damage.

So answer me this then. With an average level of injuries (Avge for the Prem taht is) instead of over twice the average, how many points would Blues have right now.
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Wisel
Mar 23 2006, 05:22 PM
mr penguin
Mar 22 2006, 08:29 PM
Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available.

Ok, so : Upson, Butt (?), Izzet, Heskey...

Who were the six other FIRST CHOICE players that were not available ?

JJ
DJC
EH
MI
NB
MN
MU
ML
CS
JG
oh and to make 11
SL (on the bench but not risked due to injury)

not all FIRST CHOICE though are they ?

p.s. only 10 outfield players can be first choice
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Wisel
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mr penguin
Mar 23 2006, 05:28 PM
Wisel
Mar 23 2006, 05:22 PM
mr penguin
Mar 22 2006, 08:29 PM
Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available.

Ok, so : Upson, Butt (?), Izzet, Heskey...

Who were the six other FIRST CHOICE players that were not available ?

JJ
DJC
EH
MI
NB
MN
MU
ML
CS
JG
oh and to make 11
SL (on the bench but not risked due to injury)

not all FIRST CHOICE though are they ?

p.s. only 10 outfield players can be first choice

pathetic
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Wisel
Mar 23 2006, 05:23 PM
number8
Mar 22 2006, 08:36 PM
Wisel
Mar 22 2006, 05:44 PM
Very good point made here. BT last night we had 10 first choiceplayers not available. If that had been Liverpool we would have won 7-0.

name those 10 players.

Jiri has already been benched when fully fit - despite being our top scorer.
Nafti hasn't played all season.
Kenny would have been picked ahead of Latka.
Izzet is never fit and hasn't been for two nearly 18 months.
Butt & Grey are no better, possibly worse than what we already had out there.
Sutton hasn't been fit either and may not have been picked ahead of Forss.

I'll give you Heskey & Upson.

So, a massive two missing from our "full strength" starting line up.

Injuries are not the reason we are going down or got tanked 0-7.

Bruce is.

Put him (and us) out of our misery before the club suffers untold damage.

So answer me this then. With an average level of injuries (Avge for the Prem taht is) instead of over twice the average, how many points would Blues have right now.

What on earth does the players having been out most of the season got to do with it.
they are still injured, they are still being payed.

That post on the "first choice" team is laughable, how could anyone say that was even Bruce's first choice team.

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