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We All Know What's Wrong; so to summarise:
Topic Started: Mar 23 2006, 01:13 PM (318 Views)
blue ruin
Geoff Horsfield
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Steve Bruce cannot manage (doesn't need an explanation)

His backroom staff cannot couch or train (nothing changes from one week to the next)

We have no discernible tactics

We have no discernible style of play (ie the manner in which the tactics are executed).

There is a sicknote culture that has developed probably because of the above.

We have no preset plans on deadball situations (how many time do we score form corners or freekicks?)

Steve Bruce does not practice what he preaches, "I will only buy players who are better than the ones they are replacing". Eh!

The Board who quite rightly run the club as a tight business to avoid a Leeds style situation use business tactics that might work in running a highly successful porn empire but ultimately fail when they try to over negotiate and cost us the signings of Scharner and Davies to name but 2 that we know of. To be fair to them they must be exasperated with SB's lack of judgement with regard to signings. How many of them had he actually seen play before signing from abroad.

The players are either talented but think they are bigger and better than the club ( see David Gold's for once spot on an and astute comments regarding the players being to blame: http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Stor...1104911,00.html
or they are grafters but not talented enough for the premiership, we all know who they are and we will be seeing a lot more of them in the Championship next season.

For the those of you who haven't already read it, Colin Tattums excellent and concise article says it all much better then I ever could:
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/b...#story_continue

The only positive to come out of this sorry debacle that we have become: further proof that we have the amongst the best and most loyal fans in the country. Its just a pity they haven't found the management and players they truly deserve.





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Dyf
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oh what a boring person you must be
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The_Bear
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Gil Merrick
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Dyf
Mar 23 2006, 05:22 PM
oh what a boring person you must be

At least Trifle can put together a thought out post and not a one line pathetic attempt of a put down.
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scampy
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oh what a boring person you must be


And oh what a slow typer you must be! tomatoes 16 posts in just over 18 months, and then this most recent stretches your imagination all of eight words

Next month try reaching for the stars with a third syllable somewhere in your sentence/paragraph :unsure:

Until then leave the astute comments - coz that's what they were - to the likes of The Trifle, for the better of all of us!
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He couldn't even get past typing three letters for his name. :D
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Alex Govan
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Mar 23 2006, 01:13 PM
Steve Bruce cannot manage (doesn't need an explanation)

His backroom staff cannot couch or train (nothing changes from one week to the next)

We have no discernible tactics

We have no discernible style of play (ie the manner in which the tactics are executed).

There is a sicknote culture that has developed probably because of the above.

We have no preset plans on deadball situations (how many time do we score form corners or freekicks?)

Steve Bruce does not practice what he preaches, "I will only buy players who are better than the ones they are replacing". Eh!

The Board who quite rightly run the club as a tight business to avoid a Leeds style situation use business tactics that might work in running a highly successful porn empire but ultimately fail when they try to over negotiate and cost us the signings of Scharner and Davies to name but 2 that we know of. To be fair to them they must be exasperated with SB's lack of judgement with regard to signings. How many of them had he actually seen play before signing from abroad.

The players are either talented but think they are bigger and better than the club ( see David Gold's for once spot on an and astute comments regarding the players being to blame: http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Stor...1104911,00.html
or they are grafters but not talented enough for the premiership, we all know who they are and we will be seeing a lot more of them in the Championship next season.

For the those of you who haven't already read it, Colin Tattums excellent and concise article says it all much better then I ever could:
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/b...#story_continue

The only positive to come out of this sorry debacle that we have become: further proof that we have the amongst the best and most loyal fans in the country. Its just a pity they haven't found the management and players they truly deserve.

As for this post, spot on. I feel everyone is accountable for this season, the manager the staff, the players AND the board, who have let down themselves by not acting and a lack of forward thinking.

The fans are the blameless ones again.
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The Trifle
Mar 23 2006, 01:13 PM
Steve Bruce cannot manage (doesn't need an explanation)

His backroom staff cannot couch or train (nothing changes from one week to the next)

We have no discernible tactics

We have no discernible style of play (ie the manner in which the tactics are executed).

There is a sicknote culture that has developed probably because of the above.

We have no preset plans on deadball situations (how many time do we score form corners or freekicks?)

Steve Bruce does not practice what he preaches, "I will only buy players who are better than the ones they are replacing". Eh!

The Board who quite rightly run the club as a tight business to avoid a Leeds style situation use business tactics that might work in running a highly successful porn empire but ultimately fail when they try to over negotiate and cost us the signings of Scharner and Davies to name but 2 that we know of. To be fair to them they must be exasperated with SB's lack of judgement with regard to signings. How many of them had he actually seen play before signing from abroad.

The players are either talented but think they are bigger and better than the club ( see David Gold's for once spot on an and astute comments regarding the players being to blame: http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Stor...1104911,00.html
or they are grafters but not talented enough for the premiership, we all know who they are and we will be seeing a lot more of them in the Championship next season.

For the those of you who haven't already read it, Colin Tattums excellent and concise article says it all much better then I ever could:
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/b...#story_continue

The only positive to come out of this sorry debacle that we have become: further proof that we have the amongst the best and most loyal fans in the country. Its just a pity they haven't found the management and players they truly deserve.

A good summary, and I agree.

And yes, we, the fans, do deserve better. And we should not be afraid to let the club know that. Even if it does make Mr Gold, Mr Sullivan and Bruce feel uncomfortable for as long as they care to dwell on it for.
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crazyjoe_uk
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From one of The Trifle's links, talking about Steve Bruce being safe...

" said Sullivan. "Just because the club is going through a bad run, to make a knee-jerk reaction would be fool hardy."

Sully was spot on throughout the rest of the article, apart from the bit I've quoted - a whole poor season could hardly constitute a "knee-jerk" reaction could it?
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bobafettsabluenose
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crazyjoe_uk
Mar 23 2006, 09:19 PM
From one of The Trifle's links, talking about Steve Bruce being safe...

" said Sullivan. "Just because the club is going through a bad run, to make a knee-jerk reaction would be fool hardy."

Sully was spot on throughout the rest of the article, apart from the bit I've quoted - a whole poor season could hardly constitute a "knee-jerk" reaction could it?

Beating Pompey 5-0 ( our biggest prem win )

Taking 2 points over 2 games to the current european champions.

Holding Man u to a 2-2 draw at our place.

Reaching the quater finals of the FA cup for the first time in 21 years.

This WHOLE season has not been poor.

Like every season in football for ANY club there have been highs and lows.

Ok... the lows vastly outnumber the highs but let's not forget, it wasn't long ago we were playing championship football anyway. Injuries have played there part and I think everyone at the club needs to take some of the blame not just Steve Bruce. He has done a lot for this club ( don't forget we were a mid table championship side when he took over and got us promoted in the first place!) He has remained loyal and ignored advances from his home town club.

I remeber going to watch blues when we were in the third division so let's not forget where this club has come from in what is a relatively short space of time.

I will still watch them regardless of what division we are in, who is playing for us and who is managing us. What good would sacking Bruce do now?

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valleyblue
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Hmm so those are the highs?

Pompey 5 - 0 - Yes that was good but don't go overboard they had about 6 new players and were adjusting to a new manager.

2 points in 2 games off Liverpool - Comendable (Even if we needed them to gift the goal at Anfield) but didn't we draw and nearly beat them in Cardiff with a team Mr Bumble would claim was much weaker than his superstars?

Holding Man U - I'll give you that as high but we beat them 5-1 in the year we were relegated from the old 1st division.

Cup 1/4 Finals - Reached via Torquay (currently 89th place in league) in a replay
Reading (who put out a weakened team) in a replay
Stoke (15th in the Chamionship) with a scrappy 1 - 0
Not exactly the toughest route but we still struggled


It's as plain as the nose on your face that under the guidance of Mr Bumble we have sunk to an all time low.
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The Trifle
Mar 23 2006, 01:13 PM
We have no discernible tactics

:o yes we do, hoofball onto Heskey's head

.... and again :unsure: and again :unsure: and again :rolleyes:
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Malcom Page
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bobafettsabluenose Posted on Mar 23 2006, 09:33 PM
I remeber going to watch blues when we were in the third division so let's not forget where this club has come from in what is a relatively short space of time.

I will still watch them regardless of what division we are in, who is playing for us and who is managing us. What good would sacking Bruce do now?


We're all grateful for what the board has done man, but we are trying not to confuse issues.
Its quite clear. The board have invested at a loss for many years, begun to claw back some of that in the past 3 seasons, and are now caught in a cleft stick.

They've given a guy an unbreakable contract, and are watching him slowly choke to death their golden goose.
You know, the one that lays their golden eggs.

I think they decided they couldn't afford to sack him, because the next manager would want the equivalent conditions and pay-off. I think they are praying that Brucey can hold the line, and that the baggies slip up.

Funny how they have joined Bruce in attacking the players.
We know they've been rubbish, but the fact that they get away with it should make any sane person question the management that allows it.

The board don't. The manager himself is never to blame.

Its like a ship of fools man.

:lol:
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The Trifle
Mar 23 2006, 01:13 PM

Steve Bruce does not practice what he preaches, "I will only buy players who are better than the ones they are replacing". Eh!

Yeah, thats why Hughies was MOTM for Charlton tonight.
Thats why Pandarni has scored about 8 times since he left,Sutton nill.
Taylor [tiny] for Purse.
And Taylor the Keeper,what a joke.
Trouble with Brucie is he belives his own Speel... and cant see he has been duped into buying a load of dross who are here for the money. :unsure:
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2 points I noted from the commentary tonight

1. Brian (Not good enough for Mr Bumble) Hughes is now keeping Danny Murphy out of the Charlton side

2.They said the 1/4 Finals had lacked excitement because there wasn't a non-prem side in them. They were wrong because our performance wasn't even non-league nevr mind non-prem
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The Trifle
Mar 23 2006, 02:13 PM
Steve Bruce cannot manage (doesn't need an explanation)

His backroom staff cannot couch or train (nothing changes from one week to the next)

We have no discernible tactics

We have no discernible style of play (ie the manner in which the tactics are executed).

There is a sicknote culture that has developed probably because of the above.

We have no preset plans on deadball situations (how many time do we score form corners or freekicks?)

Steve Bruce does not practice what he preaches, "I will only buy players who are better than the ones they are replacing". Eh!

The Board who quite rightly run the club as a tight business to avoid a Leeds style situation use business tactics that might work in running a highly successful porn empire but ultimately fail when they try to over negotiate and cost us the signings of Scharner and Davies to name but 2 that we know of. To be fair to them they must be exasperated with SB's lack of judgement with regard to signings. How many of them had he actually seen play before signing from abroad.

The players are either talented but think they are bigger and better than the club ( see David Gold's for once spot on an and astute comments regarding the players being to blame: http://www.teamtalk.com/teamtalk/News/Stor...1104911,00.html
or they are grafters but not talented enough for the premiership, we all know who they are and we will be seeing a lot more of them in the Championship next season.

For the those of you who haven't already read it, Colin Tattums excellent and concise article says it all much better then I ever could:
http://icbirmingham.icnetwork.co.uk/mail/b...#story_continue

The only positive to come out of this sorry debacle that we have become: further proof that we have the amongst the best and most loyal fans in the country. Its just a pity they haven't found the management and players they truly deserve.

Good post Trifle.
But i disagree about Bruces lack of judgement regarding signings. How many times has Bruce had to settle for second best?
Wanted mills ended up with melchiott, Bowyer ended up with Butt, scharner, Davies, Euell.







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1. Brian (Not good enough for Mr Bumble) Hughes is now keeping Danny Murphy out of the Charlton side


Danny Murphy is at Spurs now, he came on as sub against us last week
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Fair comment and to be fair to SB I could hardly call Dugarry a misjudgement. I'll take that one back.
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1. Brian (Not good enough for Mr Bumble) Hughes is now keeping Danny Murphy out of the Charlton side


Danny Murphy is at Spurs now, he came on as sub against us last week

:lol: :lol: :rolleyes:
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:D :P About the danny murphy thing
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