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Uriah Rennie; at it again
Topic Started: Apr 19 2006, 09:02 PM (1,054 Views)
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Apr 20 2006, 12:31 AM
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Apr 20 2006, 12:25 AM
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Apr 20 2006, 12:24 AM
To be honest my opinion on who is the worst referee changes every game I see, but some of Rennie's decisions really baffle me, for instance, the drop ball he did during the first half when he blew for a foul on our player and we had the ball, if anyone can explain that to me then please do.

well it wasnt a foul, heskey had a head injury so play had to be stopped and they had possesion, hence the drop ball

I might have to see it again but im sure we was in possession in our own area. If they had the ball before the whistle blown why would they give it back to us?

yea you might be right we might have had possesion im not sure either
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Apr 19 2006, 11:31 PM
KeepRightOn
Apr 20 2006, 12:25 AM
wardendbluenose
Apr 20 2006, 12:24 AM
To be honest my opinion on who is the worst referee changes every game I see, but some of Rennie's decisions really baffle me, for instance, the drop ball he did during the first half when he blew for a foul on our player and we had the ball, if anyone can explain that to me then please do.

well it wasnt a foul, heskey had a head injury so play had to be stopped and they had possesion, hence the drop ball

I might have to see it again but im sure we was in possession in our own area. If they had the ball before the whistle blown why would they give it back to us?

No....the ball was cleared from the penalty area, we had possesion, but Heskey went down cos he got an arm in his face.

Then Bellamy blasted the ball behind the goal and gave us possesion of the ball back.
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Bear, I honestly didn't intend to start that debate at all.

As for the referee having the final decision, yes he needs to be in charge. But surely the linesmen are there to help him. Tonight, and any other game, Rennie and some others, make the decisions first. Surely that's not right.

If the linesman is closest to the incident he should have the final say. Especially on throw ins. Tonight Rennie was often 40-50 yards away from the final touch but still indicated which way the linesman should flag. Thats' not right.

If Uriah Rennie was refereeing the 1966 World Cup final our 3rd goal wouldn't have counted as he would have waved play on and not listened to his linesman.

There was 1 incident when Rennie gave Blackburn a free kick that should never have been given. The linesman didn't flag. They took the free kick too quickly and it went out for a goal kick. Rennie didn't pull it back, maybe he realised he shouldn't have given the free kick in the first place so let it go.

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Apr 20 2006, 12:33 AM
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Apr 20 2006, 12:31 AM
KeepRightOn
Apr 20 2006, 12:25 AM
wardendbluenose
Apr 20 2006, 12:24 AM
To be honest my opinion on who is the worst referee changes every game I see, but some of Rennie's decisions really baffle me, for instance, the drop ball he did during the first half when he blew for a foul on our player and we had the ball, if anyone can explain that to me then please do.

well it wasnt a foul, heskey had a head injury so play had to be stopped and they had possesion, hence the drop ball

I might have to see it again but im sure we was in possession in our own area. If they had the ball before the whistle blown why would they give it back to us?

yea you might be right we might have had possesion im not sure either

Whoever had the ball, it was a strange decision anyway, referee's normally wait until the ball goes out of play to deal with an injured player.
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Apr 19 2006, 11:35 PM
Bear, I honestly didn't intend to start that debate at all.

As for the referee having the final decision, yes he needs to be in charge. But surely the linesmen are there to help him. Tonight, and any other game, Rennie and some others, make the decisions first. Surely that's not right.

If the linesman is closest to the incident he should have the final say. Especially on throw ins. Tonight Rennie was often 40-50 yards away from the final touch but still indicated which way the linesman should flag. Thats' not right.

If Uriah Rennie was refereeing the 1966 World Cup final our 3rd goal wouldn't have counted as he would have waved play on and not listened to his linesman.

There was 1 incident when Rennie gave Blackburn a free kick that should never have been given. The linesman didn't flag. They took the free kick too quickly and it went out for a goal kick. Rennie didn't pull it back, maybe he realised he shouldn't have given the free kick in the first place so let it go.

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Bear, I honestly didn't intend to start that debate at all.


No worries.....I think its best if we let that one go... :ph43r:

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There was 1 incident when Rennie gave Blackburn a free kick that should never have been given. The linesman didn't flag. They took the free kick too quickly and it went out for a goal kick. Rennie didn't pull it back, maybe he realised he shouldn't have given the free kick in the first place so let it go.


That was when he penalised Tebily for handball, but having seen the replay 3 times, the ball was hit quite quickly at his arm, there's no way Tebs could have got out of the way of that.

To be honest, I get nervous every time he refs one of our games, he's not just bad for us, he doesn't discriminate against clubs, he's equally woeful for all teams.
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anyway rennie is a cr*p ref, we all know it! end of story :D
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Yes, Bear, it was the Tebily hand ball incident. Rennie blew up straight away and gave the free kick. The fact he allowed the goal kick to stand and he didn't bring it back says to me that he realised he had made a mistake.

Wonder what he would have done if they had scored?

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Wonder what he would have done if they had scored?


Thankfully they didn't eh.....we've had enough ref errors lately go against us.
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Yes he is a poor ref, but we won tonight :D :D

Imagine the uproar on here if we did'nt :P
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Apr 19 2006, 09:02 PM
The bloke is just an idiot.

How can anyone NOT give a penalty for as blatant a push in the back on Forssell as you'll ever see?

As Trevor Francis said on his commentary, if thats anywhere else on the field, it's a foul and a free kick. So why wasn't the penalty awarded?

He got carried away with booking Blues players at the end too, the guy is just not proffesional enough to be officiating a game of such importance.

He makes my blood boil, he really does.

rennie is just a poor ref and is only there because of the colour of his skin.

i dont like saying that but it's true. :(
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........ :unsure: ...........No comment....... :unsure:
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Urinal rennie was fasttracked through the process,i think the pc term is "positive discrimination"
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Never heard so much rubbish in my life ......... if Rennie only has the job because he's black how come he got demoted and had to change his style of reffing before he was allowed back into The Premiership ?

If he is judged favourably because of his colour then he wouldn't have been demoted in the first place.

Yes, Rennie sometimes interprets things differently from other referees and can be a bit of a maverick BUT, most importantly, he isn't biased towards the bigger teams, isn't biased towards the home teams and in the end gets most of the really important decisions right.

I'd go as far as saying the reason people think he's awful is because most of the Premiership refs are just as bad as Rennie (and more biased) but he stands out because he's black.

This isn't to say people say he's crap because they are racist but because they always know when it's Rennie reffing because he's the only black ref and therefore more easily remembered.

Sometimes refs have nightmare games and as you leave the ground you hear the fans saying "effin ref was bleedin' useless, who was he?" ..... you don't have the problem with Rennie of not knowing who he is do you?
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PS .......... as for the penalty for the push on Forssell then Rennie COULDN'T have given it because he couldn't possibly have seen the defender push Forssell because the defender was directly behind Forssell and completely unsighted by Rennie who was head on to the incident. He would ONLY have seen Forssells reaction from head-on

That's why Rennie looked over to the linesman, the one who WOULD have had the angle to see clearly if it was a push, and the linesman didn't give it.
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Never heard so much rubbish in my life ......... if Rennie only has the job because he's black how come he got demoted and had to change his style of reffing before he was allowed back into The Premiership ?

If he is judged favourably because of his colour then he wouldn't have been demoted in the first place.

Yes, Rennie sometimes interprets things differently from other referees and can be a bit of a maverick BUT, most importantly, he isn't biased towards the bigger teams, isn't biased towards the home teams and in the end gets most of the really important decisions right.

I'd go as far as saying the reason people think he's awful is because most of the Premiership refs are just as bad as Rennie (and more biased) but he stands out because he's black.

This isn't to say people say he's crap because they are racist but because they always know when it's Rennie reffing because he's the only black ref and therefore more easily remembered.

Sometimes refs have nightmare games and as you leave the ground you hear the fans saying "effin ref was bleedin' useless, who was he?" ..... you don't have the problem with Rennie of not knowing who he is do you?

Rennie isnt the only referee who get's stick, everyone remembers a crap referee and 90% of the ones officiating the Premier League matches are TBH. i don't think he's singled out because of his ethnicity

and i also don't believe Rennie is a Prem referee because he is black. :huh:


oh well, if only Collina did all the matches eh ;)


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I think it's disgusting in these modern times that we haven't yet got the ability to take Collina's DNA and clone him dozens and dozens of times.

You'd get consistency then !
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I listened to the game on the radio and Tom Ross was saying that Steven Reid must have been warned about 5 times without getting a yellow card, then the first foul Cunningham does again he nearly trips over his own laces to get the card out.

The Forssell push was as blatant a penalty as you can get. wtf**

The man is a joke!!! :angry:

But at least we won. **thumbup
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PS .......... as for the penalty for the push on Forssell then Rennie COULDN'T have given it because he couldn't possibly have seen the defender push Forssell because the defender was directly behind Forssell and completely unsighted by Rennie who was head on to the incident. He would ONLY have seen Forssells reaction from head-on

That's why Rennie looked over to the linesman, the one who WOULD have had the angle to see clearly if it was a push, and the linesman didn't give it.

Absolute rubbish.

If Rennie couldn't see the incident he should have looked to his linesman as he did. However, Rennie had been making EVERY decision all night. He showed the linesmen which way to signal throw ins, which way to signal free kicks and everything else too.

1 linesman flagged for a free kick to Blues which was blatantly obvious to everyon inside St Andrews apart from Rennie who, from over 20 yards away, overruled it and waved play on.

Now, considering all of that, how on Earth would the linesman know he's got to make a decision on the penalty?

If it was me, Rennies showed me what to do all nght, he's not consulted me or loke dfor guidance from me at all, not once and now I am expected to make a penalty decision when he's already seen 2, not consulted me on either and waved play on both times. After all of that he loks to the linesman for the Forssell decision? Bow locks.

What about the other one, almost identical arm across top of shoulders, just afterwards? He didn't give that one or look to his linesman. Totaly inept refereeing. The guy shouldn't be a Premiership referee.

His arrogance, inability and down right uselessness are what make him stand ot. Not his colour. The only reason people question his colour is because in the current PC climate it is the only reason thousands of people can se for him being in the job.

At least he is consistent though. Always crap. Always arrogant. Always got to be centre of attention. Always card happy.

He did favour 1 team last night and it was the team vying for 6th place. The apparent 'big' team. He was giving Blackburn free kicks for no aparent reason, when they dived and whenever he felt like it basically. When our players were genuinly fouled he waved play on. Not played the advantage but played on.

Nobody would notice Rennie's skin if he was good at what he does.
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i think Rennie has a thing for Damien Johnson, Every game he refs he always either books him or sends him off.
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Never heard so much rubbish in my life ......... if Rennie only has the job because he's black how come he got demoted and had to change his style of reffing before he was allowed back into The Premiership ?

If he is judged favourably because of his colour then he wouldn't have been demoted in the first place.


this could of been just a token jestur, he was promoted back the following season but his reffing has stayed the same.

i can understand refs getting things wrong but he gets most important things wrong.

and it's not just for us he is bad for everyone he refs so the question is why is he still there ask any fan of any club and they all say the same he is rubbish.

how can the majority of football fans around the country be wrong.

mind you i suppose we should'nt complain i dont think we have lost under his officiating this season. **thumbup
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And to make it worse he hit Forssell in the face!! :lol:
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I re-watched the game this avo, as they were repeating it on Fox Sports and wanted to watch it again in the 'cold light of day' if you know what I mean.

When Julian Gray got booked at the end, what was it for?

When Chris Sutton got booked, what was it for?

If the referee cant see that Forssell was pushed, which is as blatant a push as you'll ever see in football, he shouldn't be a ref in this league.

The guy is an arrogant pr1ck, and the worse ref I've ever seen. well.....nearly, they all semm just as bad as each other these days.
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I think more than 75% of the crowd could do his job better than him, why cant the F.A see hes just not good enough, unless he just has a grudge on blues, the bookings at the end, the extra 2-3 minutes, only sending 2 players of this season, both of them being DJ :unsure:

Hes the worst referee a lot of us have come across tomatoes

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The thing with Rennie is hes wrapped up in his own importance, he wants to make sure everyone knows who he is. Thats why we had the stoppage time pantomime
last night hes go control over twenty odd thousand people and he cant get enough.

Lets face it, we all know deep down why he's in the premiership.
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I want to comment on the issue concerning the increasing use of technology in refereeing/umpiring decisions. If this occurs as in third umpire in cricket or constant video replays in American football do you think threads like this one will cease to exist? Whilst the debate about refereeing/umpiring decisions continues, the game contains a 'human element' that essential to its spirit/nature basis, remove it and what will we have to complain/debate about over a few beers after the game? I guess I'm saying, sure lets whine and complain about decisions made during a game but isn't this better than always going to technology to make the decision, after there is not quite the same passion to winge about camera positions or angle is it? **thumbup
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