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Topic Started: Apr 21 2006, 07:58 AM (700 Views)
Bluenose Cobby
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Christ sake, i bloody hate this people 'Topic Starting' Bruce Out etc it drives me barmy, stick with your beloved brimingham city fc and things we will be alright, just hate people looking for something to complain about.

Our confidence seems to be striving once again, so please get rid of these negative posts as they are a waste of time.

Give Brucie a bloody a Chance........Ok last 18 months hasn't been to pleasing to say the least.....But lets all stay positve we can do it!

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Mash
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Apr 21 2006, 01:32 PM
Christ sake, i bloody hate this people 'Topic Starting' Bruce Out etc it drives me barmy, stick with your beloved brimingham city fc and things we will be alright, just hate people looking for something to complain about.

Our confidence seems to be striving once again, so please get rid of these negative posts as they are a waste of time.

Give Brucie a bloody a Chance........Ok last 18 months hasn't been to pleasing to say the least.....But lets all stay positve we can do it!

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Spot on Christopher
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bluenose54
Apr 21 2006, 07:58 AM
The topic I started 'Bruce is taking ..' well I have been reading the threads & ALL the people who want SB OUT have put a point or two over why he sould GO ... but the ones who want him to stay have NOT made any point at all .. they just say keep him ...WHY what has he done 'GOOD' for Blues ... 82pts from 83pts ... third from bottom for 5 months ... lost twice to the 'low life of brum' ... got the biggest hammering of our life (& on TV) in the FA Cup .... on the edge of relegation ...
I can see why you dont want him to go ... NOT ... :angry: :angry: :P
BRUCE OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!

You a Villa fan mate? :lol:

Not to worry school's are back next week, you can get back to swapping Vile stickers with your pals and smoking behind the bike sheds.

Grow up kid! ;)
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Apr 21 2006, 01:26 PM
Mash
Apr 21 2006, 12:22 PM
Brian Robson
2 Seasons of a relagation fight and poor since being in the prem
Where as we have'nt

Pick your own examples mash ;) **thumbup

I never even seen your post as I taken so long posting mine due to doing something
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bluenose54
Apr 21 2006, 01:09 PM
Wisel on what grounds am I lazy. We all have our opinion but all the 'bruce in' people spout on what a good job SB has done, but thats in the past, now he is nearly sending us down, what other 'manager' in football or another buisness would have survived with SB record ?

On the grounds that you make your apinion based on the one posting that comes to hand, not on the views expressed in other threads. As I said, I have defined my reasons for wanting Bruce to stay several times. so have others It is wrong to make the assertion that you did about lack of reason.
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Apr 21 2006, 12:51 PM
Bluenose Cobby
Apr 21 2006, 01:32 PM
Christ sake, i bloody hate this people 'Topic Starting' Bruce Out etc it drives me barmy, stick with your beloved brimingham city fc and things we will be alright, just hate people looking for something to complain about.

Our confidence seems to be striving once again, so please get rid of these negative posts as they are a waste of time.

Give Brucie a bloody a Chance........Ok last 18 months hasn't been to pleasing to say the least.....But lets all stay positve we can do it!

**thumbup

Spot on Christopher

Cheers Mathew! **thumbup
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bluenose54
Apr 21 2006, 07:58 AM
The topic I started 'Bruce is taking ..' well I have been reading the threads & ALL the people who want SB OUT have put a point or two over why he sould GO ... but the ones who want him to stay have NOT made any point at all .. they just say keep him ...WHY what has he done 'GOOD' for Blues ... 82pts from 83pts ... third from bottom for 5 months ... lost twice to the 'low life of brum' ... got the biggest hammering of our life (& on TV) in the FA Cup .... on the edge of relegation ...
I can see why you dont want him to go ... NOT ... :angry: :angry: :P
BRUCE OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!

What Bruce has done good for us this season:
kept us in with a fighting chance against relegation and put some heart back into the team. He has coped with an unbelievable amount of injuries to key players (who seem to get injured by just tripping over blades of grass). Yes the injuries are an excuse. But an extremely valid one.
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because it the sam old same old and its just sooo boaring ..zz.. ..zz.. ..zz.. ..zz..
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Apr 21 2006, 08:16 AM
bluenose54
Apr 21 2006, 07:58 AM
The topic I started 'Bruce is taking ..'    well I have been reading the threads & ALL the people who want SB OUT have put a point or two over why he sould GO ... but the ones who want him to stay have NOT made any point at all .. they just say keep him ...WHY what has he done 'GOOD' for Blues ... 82pts from 83pts ... third from bottom for 5 months ... lost twice to the 'low life of brum' ... got the biggest hammering of our life (& on TV) in the FA Cup .... on the edge of relegation ...
I can see why you dont want him to go ... NOT ...  :angry:  :angry:  :P
BRUCE OUT !!!!!!!!!!!!

Because. If we go down you want as much stability as possible to give you the best chance of staying up.

Because Bruce is a dedicated, passionate manager, who cares about this club: not just words demonstrated by Bruce coming to us in the first place and rejecting Newcastle.

Becuase, there is no one better than Bruce available and willing to come to Blues at the moment.

Because our losses have in the main have been when we had an under strength team.

Because the board have not backed Bruce in the transser market when it was obvious that the team needed strengthening in certain positions. Left back, centre half.

Because, supporters like you think you can hassle the guy out of his job.

1. Stability doesn't seem to have done Norwich much good nor other teams who have been relegated in past seasons.

2. Please produce ANY evidence that he has EVER been in a position to "reject" Newcastle. All I've ever seen is press speculation that maybe (just maybe) newcastle might be thinking about approaching him.

3. And pray tell me who bought those unfit palyers in the first place.

4. The board HAVE backed him as has been shown numerouse times on this board to extent of £25,000,000 net (5 times what Bolton have spent). And when have we ever heard him say that he was looking at left backs or centre-halves???

5. No hassling someone out of a job is illegal - But not only has he broken a pay structure that all previous managers under the current board had to obey but he has also run down the reserves.
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1. Stability doesn't seem to have done Norwich much good nor other teams who have been relegated in past seasons.= we can all quote examples of where stability has worked and where sacking managers and getting new managers have worked- this is a pointless argument.

2. Please produce ANY evidence that he has EVER been in a position to "reject" Newcastle. All I've ever seen is press speculation that maybe (just maybe) newcastle might be thinking about approaching him- there was talk that Bruce had been offered a job with Newcastle and he refused. There is no documented evidence both ways so pointless argument again.

3. And pray tell me who bought those unfit palyers in the first place.- zett, Dunn, Stan, Uppy, Nafti etc etc were all fit when they bought- is he supposed to have a crystal ball as well??

4. The board HAVE backed him as has been shown numerouse times on this board to extent of £25,000,000 net (5 times what Bolton have spent). And when have we ever heard him say that he was looking at left backs or centre-halves???- yes we have spent well in the last few years but any team that has come from the pop league and is trying to establish themselves has to invest in better players...Bolton have been in the premiership for a number of years and have no doubt spent this amount of money over time...but again we have been unlucky with injuries.

5. No hassling someone out of a job is illegal - But not only has he broken a pay structure that all previous managers under the current board had to obey but he has also run down the reserves.- and you know this for fact?
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bluenose54
Apr 21 2006, 09:36 AM
KROKID ...put up or shut up !!!
PS ... thats why your a 'kid'

If you are going to try and put your superior intellect to good use and belittle someone who is probably a youth at least make the effort to use English. The words you are looking are “that’s” or “that is” and “you are” or “you’re.”

If you want to value no other opinion apart from your own I suggest a career in politics. ;)
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mandy@blues
Apr 21 2006, 09:51 PM
1. Stability doesn't seem to have done Norwich much good nor other teams who have been relegated in past seasons.= we can all quote examples of where stability has worked and where sacking managers and getting new managers have worked- this is a pointless argument.

2. Please produce ANY evidence that he has EVER been in a position to "reject" Newcastle. All I've ever seen is press speculation that maybe (just maybe) newcastle might be thinking about approaching him- there was talk that Bruce had been offered a job with Newcastle and he refused. There is no documented evidence both ways so pointless argument again.

3. And pray tell me who bought those unfit palyers in the first place.- zett, Dunn, Stan, Uppy, Nafti etc etc were all fit when they bought- is he supposed to have a crystal ball as well??

4. The board HAVE backed him as has been shown numerouse times on this board to extent of £25,000,000 net (5 times what Bolton have spent). And when have we ever heard him say that he was looking at left backs or centre-halves???- yes we have spent well in the last few years but any team that has come from the pop league and is trying to establish themselves has to invest in better players...Bolton have been in the premiership for a number of years and have no doubt spent this amount of money over time...but again we have been unlucky with injuries.

5. No hassling someone out of a job is illegal - But not only has he broken a pay structure that all previous managers under the current board had to obey but he has also run down the reserves.- and you know this for fact?

not going to argue most of your post but the injury section.

uppy had long periods out while at arsenal, dunn has a horendous injury history, stan the same over the last couple of years befor SB injuries have left him out for long periods.

izzet and nafti i think are the only one you can say never had any injury douts over pryor to his signing but the others have quite a chequerd history.
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I'm bored with all of this - Brucie took us up and has struggled with injuries and Krap luck Notlob only just stayed up (last game of season as I recall) and look at them now.
If the mangler was sacked each time they had a bad season there wouldn't be any manglers for more than two seasons at a club. One of those two seasons has to be worse than the other. Once bruce has a season with few injuries and can play a settled side for more than 2 games then I'll make decisoin as to whether he should be sacked or not.

Now I'm going back into hibernation while people slag him off at a time when he actually needs our support.
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Apr 21 2006, 10:16 PM
I'm bored with all of this - Brucie took us up and has struggled with injuries and Krap luck Notlob only just stayed up (last game of season as I recall) and look at them now.
If the mangler was sacked each time they had a bad season there wouldn't be any manglers for more than two seasons at a club. One of those two seasons has to be worse than the other. Once bruce has a season with few injuries and can play a settled side for more than 2 games then I'll make decisoin as to whether he should be sacked or not.

Now I'm going back into hibernation while people slag him off at a time when he actually needs our support.

just a one question.?

whos notlob? :huh:
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Allerdyce City
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he,s allways hanging about,and i know he wants to play
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Apr 21 2006, 10:21 PM
Allerdyce City

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whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Bolton ......
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Apr 21 2006, 10:24 PM
Bolton ......

bolton i dont see the conection .

aladice never got relagated with bolton he was a new manager that got them to stay up and whent on to european football. ;)
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The point I'm trying to make, not very well, is that Bolton stayed up on the last day of the season. They only just made it as hopefully we will. But they stuck with the manager despite the close relegation call and, as you say, are now into Europe. this year's sack him is next years European honours manager.
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Apr 21 2006, 11:10 PM
uppy had long periods out while at arsenal, dunn has a horendous injury history, stan the same over the last couple of years befor SB injuries have left him out for long periods.

izzet and nafti i think are the only one you can say never had any injury douts over pryor to his signing but the others have quite a chequerd history.

David Dunn stats does not strike me as a player who had a horrendous injury record before he joined the blues

98-99 Blackburn Rovers
1 Goals, 15 Games (-)
99-00 Blackburn Rovers
2 Goals, 22 Games (-)
00-01 Blackburn Rovers
12 Goals, 42 Games (-)
01-02 Blackburn Rovers
7 Goals, 29 Games (-)
02-03 Blackburn Rovers
8 Goals, 28 Games 3 Games (UEFA Cup)

One appearance for England and 19 for the U19. He was born Dec 1979 so probably made his debut at 18. All this adds up to the fact that the bloke only sustained a serious injury when he joined the blues and people cannot blame Bruce for that as its part and parcel of football.
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Apr 21 2006, 10:36 PM
dr.nick
Apr 21 2006, 11:10 PM
uppy had long periods out while at arsenal, dunn has a horendous injury history, stan the same over the last couple of years befor SB  injuries have left him out for long periods.

izzet and nafti i think are the only one you can say never had any injury douts over pryor to his signing but the others have quite a chequerd history.

David Dunn stats does not strike me as a player who had a horrendous injury record before he joined the blues

98-99 Blackburn Rovers
1 Goals, 15 Games (-)
99-00 Blackburn Rovers
2 Goals, 22 Games (-)
00-01 Blackburn Rovers
12 Goals, 42 Games (-)
01-02 Blackburn Rovers
7 Goals, 29 Games (-)
02-03 Blackburn Rovers
8 Goals, 28 Games 3 Games (UEFA Cup)

One appearance for England and 19 for the U19. He was born Dec 1979 so probably made his debut at 18. All this adds up to the fact that the bloke only sustained a serious injury when he joined the blues and people cannot blame Bruce for that as its part and parcel of football.

he has a known history of injuries, thats why he only had one game for england.

probably not as bad as while he has for us but definatly a history.

why would he leave his home town club otherwise.?

souness na maybe souness was sick of him having injuries and cut his losses.
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Apr 21 2006, 10:33 PM
The point I'm trying to make, not very well, is that Bolton stayed up on the last day of the season. They only just made it as hopefully we will. But they stuck with the manager despite the close relegation call and, as you say, are now into Europe. this year's sack him is next years European honours manager.

but bolton ahd struggled under there last manager( i cant remember who he was) and changed him and they went from strenth to streanth because they got a good manager in.

allso bolton never had the finnaces we have..
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Apr 21 2006, 11:49 PM
Dal78
Apr 21 2006, 10:36 PM
dr.nick
Apr 21 2006, 11:10 PM
uppy had long periods out while at arsenal, dunn has a horendous injury history, stan the same over the last couple of years befor SB  injuries have left him out for long periods.

izzet and nafti i think are the only one you can say never had any injury douts over pryor to his signing but the others have quite a chequerd history.

David Dunn stats does not strike me as a player who had a horrendous injury record before he joined the blues

98-99 Blackburn Rovers
1 Goals, 15 Games (-)
99-00 Blackburn Rovers
2 Goals, 22 Games (-)
00-01 Blackburn Rovers
12 Goals, 42 Games (-)
01-02 Blackburn Rovers
7 Goals, 29 Games (-)
02-03 Blackburn Rovers
8 Goals, 28 Games 3 Games (UEFA Cup)

One appearance for England and 19 for the U19. He was born Dec 1979 so probably made his debut at 18. All this adds up to the fact that the bloke only sustained a serious injury when he joined the blues and people cannot blame Bruce for that as its part and parcel of football.

he has a known history of injuries, thats why he only had one game for england.

probably not as bad as while he has for us but definatly a history.

why would he leave his home town club otherwise.?

souness na maybe souness was sick of him having injuries and cut his losses.

dr nick I cannot see where you are backing up your claim that Dunn was injury prone before he joined us. If you cast your mind back it appeared that Dunn fell out with Souness and he sounded gutted he had to leave his home town club. It’s not unusual for players and managers to fall out. The reason he probably hasn’t added to his 1 England cap was he didn’t push on when he joined us because he got injured and the proven midfield talent available at the time.

Now unless you are going to come up with some startling fact I am unaware of you need to except his major injuries started after he joined us and he wasn’t considered injury prone at Blackburn.
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Apr 21 2006, 10:10 PM
mandy@blues
Apr 21 2006, 09:51 PM
1. Stability doesn't seem to have done Norwich much good nor other teams who have been relegated in past seasons.= we can all quote examples of where stability has worked and where sacking managers and getting new managers have worked- this is a pointless argument.

2. Please produce ANY evidence that he has EVER been in a position to "reject" Newcastle. All I've ever seen is press speculation that maybe (just maybe) newcastle might be thinking about approaching him- there was talk that Bruce had been offered a job with Newcastle and he refused. There is no documented evidence both ways so pointless argument again.

3. And pray tell me who bought those unfit palyers in the first place.- zett, Dunn, Stan, Uppy, Nafti etc etc were all fit when they bought- is he supposed to have a crystal ball as well??

4. The board HAVE backed him as has been shown numerouse times on this board to extent of £25,000,000 net (5 times what Bolton have spent). And when have we ever heard him say that he was looking at left backs or centre-halves???- yes we have spent well in the last few years but any team that has come from the pop league and is trying to establish themselves has to invest in better players...Bolton have been in the premiership for a number of years and have no doubt spent this amount of money over time...but again we have been unlucky with injuries.

5. No hassling someone out of a job is illegal - But not only has he broken a pay structure that all previous managers under the current board had to obey but he has also run down the reserves.- and you know this for fact?

not going to argue most of your post but the injury section.

uppy had long periods out while at arsenal, dunn has a horendous injury history, stan the same over the last couple of years befor SB injuries have left him out for long periods.

izzet and nafti i think are the only one you can say never had any injury douts over pryor to his signing but the others have quite a chequerd history.

Micheal Owen has a history of injuries. If the oportunity came up to sign him would you????????. <_<
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