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Wayne Rooney
Topic Started: Jun 4 2014, 09:52 PM (1,137 Views)
lowdham bluenose
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Yet again, I wasn't impressed with his performance tonight.

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lowdham bluenose
Jun 4 2014, 09:52 PM
Yet again, I wasn't impressed with his performance tonight.

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Oh ! another Wayne Rooney thread :whistle:


Jeeeze.....he scored an equalising goal, what more do you want ? , Hodgson told the whole world prior to KO this was quite clearly an experimental side anyway


Rob Draper of the Daily Mail certainly saw a different game to you......He rated Rooney as the only starter of the XI to likely keep his place in Brazil and Wayne was our main threat going forward

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2648915/Ecuador-2-2-England-PLAYER-RATINGS-Wayne-Rooney-proves-Englands-main-man-Three-Lions-held-Miami.html




What's your beef, lowhdam ? .....it was just a bloody warm up game FGS

He even played Milner at right back....that turned out to be a disaster .....but TBH Glen Johnson does not excite me either.....but at least he is amore familiar in that role

And surely we all know Milner will never be world class ......versatile, hard working, yes .....but never world class



Come On , England :applause:


Edited by PartisanBCFC, Jun 5 2014, 01:18 AM.
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I didn't rate the opposition that much IMO they are one of the poorer sides from South America. I thought Ricky Lambert, Barkley and Sterling all worth another look. In the case of Sterling an unjust sending off!
Edited by clapton bluenose, Jun 5 2014, 04:56 AM.
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Wayne Rooney should be played up front with Sturridge

And he's still England's best

Excellent article **thumbup



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2647001/Wayne-Rooney-Englands-best-player-Roy-Hodgson-needs-play-Daniel-Sturridge.html
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Irrespective of what lowds or I think Woy wouldn't dare drop Rooney of that you can be sure.
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Jun 5 2014, 06:13 AM
Irrespective of what lowds or I think Woy wouldn't dare drop Rooney of that you can be sure.
That;s probably right. However there is a ground-swell questioning Rooney which the press at the interviews have latched onto and Woy has wobbled as well.

Interesting he played him wide left. He was still a wasted player though, all those shots/attempts he put wide.

My team would be

Back 5

Gerrard - Milner

Lallama - Barkley - Sterling

Sturridge

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Jun 5 2014, 01:12 AM
lowdham bluenose
Jun 4 2014, 09:52 PM
Yet again, I wasn't impressed with his performance tonight.

:whistle:
Oh ! another Wayne Rooney thread :whistle:


Jeeeze.....he scored an equalising goal, what more do you want ? , Hodgson told the whole world prior to KO this was quite clearly an experimental side anyway


Rob Draper of the Daily Mail certainly saw a different game to you......He rated Rooney as the only starter of the XI to likely keep his place in Brazil and Wayne was our main threat going forward

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldcup2014/article-2648915/Ecuador-2-2-England-PLAYER-RATINGS-Wayne-Rooney-proves-Englands-main-man-Three-Lions-held-Miami.html




What's your beef, lowhdam ? .....it was just a bloody warm up game FGS

He even played Milner at right back....that turned out to be a disaster .....but TBH Glen Johnson does not excite me either.....but at least he is amore familiar in that role

And surely we all know Milner will never be world class ......versatile, hard working, yes .....but never world class



Come On , England :applause:


Are you doing your best to get another thread binned?

I was just stating that yet again I wasn't impressed with his performance. Fekk me, I am allowed an opinion on a game I have just watched, surely.

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Jun 5 2014, 10:08 AM
Are you doing your best to get another thread binned?

I was just stating that yet again I wasn't impressed with his performance. Fekk me, I am allowed an opinion on a game I have just watched, surely.

No....not at all......as even a well known nemesis of mine correctly stated on another topic, one Mod seems to be a bit too trigger happy on here......But what the hell can I do about that ? Nothing....apart from complain but that's been totally fruitless of late

It only takes one to bin a thread .....or even two....or even three.....or even four or five

Of course you're entitled to your opinion

But there are many who view Rooney and his influence on the England set up totally different to you, there are even those on here who blew your arguments out of the water with regard to him not producing in big competitions or against big opponents

I guarantee he will start against Italy

Wayne is a great player .....when he makes the effort......he's been made the scapegoat for abysmal showings by the entire national side over the past 7 or 8 years ......and that's unfair IMHO .....there are probably at least 25-30 other players who should carry the can too


Don't start throwing your teddies around

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Edited by PartisanBCFC, Jun 5 2014, 10:31 AM.
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Jun 5 2014, 10:18 AM


Of course you're entitled to your opinion

But there are many who view Rooney and his influence on the England set up totally different to you, there are even those on here who blew your arguments out of the water with regard to him not producing in big competitions or against big opponents

There weren't. Indeed I proved he never performed on the big stages - BUT I AM NOT GOING TO WASTE MY TIME AND LIST THEM ALL AGAIN JUST FOR YOU TO GET THE THREAD CANNED.

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Cl;apton Ecudor have both qualified for W.C and someone said topped their group so that imho makes them a very good side!

KRO
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Jun 5 2014, 11:37 AM
Cl;apton Ecudor have both qualified for W.C and someone said topped their group so that imho makes them a very good side!

KRO
I'll have to look up that group before reconsidering what I have stated previously. Going by what I saw last night they looked poor in comparison to Brazil Argentina and uraguay.
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They didn't top their group, as they don't have groups in South America. Instead they play a league of home and away fixtures with the top four qualifying by right and the fifth placed side going into a two-legged play off with a side from Asia.

Ecuador finished fourth, behind Argentina, Colombia and Chile, mostly by virtue of not losing a single game at home. But then, considering they play at above 9,000ft altitude in Quito, that's not a huge surprise. They didn't win a single game away from Ecuador.
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Jun 5 2014, 10:18 AM
No....not at all......as even a well known nemesis of mine correctly stated on another topic, one Mod seems to be a bit too trigger happy on here......But what the hell can I do about that ? Nothing....apart from complain but that's been totally fruitless of late

I'm going to knock this on the head now, because from previous posts you've suggested that the person you're referring to is Pooley. Well, it wasn't. I'm not going to say who deleted the threads, but I will say that it was a team decision because people from both sides of the arguments are spoiling perfectly good threads by this constant sniping at each other.

I repeat, neither side is innocent!

We will, unfortunately, end up having to bin more threads if this continues. And that's not us taking sides, but stating it like it is.
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I thought Rooney did ok. No, he hasn't performed on the big international stage, bar his first Euros, but you don't get to be England's 5th highest scorer by being a chump.

I'm hoping that this tournament sees him shrug of this supposed mantle.
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Jun 5 2014, 10:05 AM
clapton bluenose
Jun 5 2014, 06:13 AM
Irrespective of what lowds or I think Woy wouldn't dare drop Rooney of that you can be sure.
That;s probably right. However there is a ground-swell questioning Rooney which the press at the interviews have latched onto and Woy has wobbled as well.

Interesting he played him wide left. He was still a wasted player though, all those shots/attempts he put wide.

My team would be

Back 5

Gerrard - Milner

Lallama - Barkley - Sterling

Sturridge

I'd play this too, but take out Milner for Henderson.

Rooney was poor the other night, he scored a tap-in and that was about it.

He was non-existent in the second half, i even asked had he been taken off at one point.

The Ox, Barkley and Lambert all looked like they were wanting to try there best. Some of the runs Barkley and the Ox made were awesome.

Saying this, i'd probably start Rooney in behind Sturridge against Italy, and then take him off for someone like Barkley after about 50-60 mins.

If Rooney doesn't perform against Italy, then Roy should really consider dropping him. It's a real shame about the Ox's injury, he looked great on Wednesday! :(
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Jun 5 2014, 01:12 AM

What's your beef, lowhdam ? .....i
I have nothing against Rooney. I have just been commenting that his form for England is questionable and that he is certainly never been world class.

I sincerely hope he comes good. A bit like Alan Shearer leading up to Euro 96 where his form for England and lack of goals ( I think 10 games without a goal for England) brought his position into question. Shearer was definately a "forms temporary" because he answered hs critics in that competition.

So there is no beef, no grudge. I'm just saying as I see it but do hope he can come good.

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Still nothing from Rooney. His England form is questionable. I personally wouldn't start him. It's 2014, he's had 10 years to prove himself on the big stages and it's not as if we haven't got any good young replacements.

Gerrard , Henderson
Lallama, Barklay, Sterling
Sturridge


(and where will we play the Ox when he's back?)

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I gave up on Rooney after the last World Cup in South Africa. He was pants and failed to score any goals. Defoe comes on for one game and bangs one in.

It became clear then that others given the chance could do better. IMO Defoe should still be apart of this squad despite now playing in a Mickey Mouse league. When I look around this squad for goals only Ricky Lambert stands out.

I would back Ricky to score against any opposition given the right service. Not convinced about WR although you would expect him to get something from the Costa Rica game.
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Jun 9 2014, 02:31 PM
I gave up on Rooney after the last World Cup in South Africa.
...it looks like he's started this World Cup where he left the last one.

Well at least he was subbed last night, let's hope he is sidelined for the next game.

World Class eh? :LMAO: :LMAO:

Already we have seen Neymar, Robben and van Persie. A totally different class to old Wayne Rooney.

Edited by lowdham bluenose, Jun 15 2014, 10:00 AM.
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I gave up on Rooney after the last World Cup in South Africa.
...it looks like he's started this World Cup where he left the last one.

Well at least he was subbed last night, let's hope he is sidelined for the next game.

World Class eh? :LMAO: :LMAO:

Already we have seen Neymar, Robben and van Persie. A totally different class to old Wayne Rooney.

He had a brilliant chance to announce himself to the World Cup hall of fame and messed up. That's the difference between being a good prem player to being world class.
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Fair enough lads, thats your view, but........

I think they should build the team around him and not have him in his present role. He will always have enough class to do the special things, like that inch perfect cross that changed the game, thats why he should be in the team. In my very humble opinion. :angel:

Tin hat, at the ready.
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Jun 15 2014, 12:00 PM
Fair enough lads, thats your view, but........

I think they should build the team around him and not have him in his present role. He will always have enough class to do the special things, like that inch perfect cross that changed the game, thats why he should be in the team. In my very humble opinion. :angel:

Tin hat, at the ready.
He's had his chances over the last ten years. The team should be built around Sterling and Sturridge.

That pass from Sterling which took 4 of their players out and led to the goal was what I call world class and the finish from Sturridge confirms at last we have a goal scorer.

Not forgetting the shocking miss of Rooney's in the second half.

Sorry boilerman, it's taxi for Rooney.

PS How's the tin hat?
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He's our best player! One of the few times we got him involved in the game he created the goal. Wasted out on the left, get him in the middle and get him on the ball as much as we can!
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Jun 15 2014, 12:58 PM
He's our best player! One of the few times we got him involved in the game he created the goal. Wasted out on the left, get him in the middle and get him on the ball as much as we can!
You got to be kidding right?

Bringing him into the middle will stifle our quick attacking play. That for me would be a massive error by RH bringing WR into the middle.
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Jun 15 2014, 12:58 PM
He's our best player! One of the few times we got him involved in the game he created the goal. Wasted out on the left, get him in the middle and get him on the ball as much as we can!
What?

We have Sterling and Sturridge who are razor sharp and lightning down the middle and you want Rooney there. My God. Just get over him, he's not all you think he is. The last 10 years have proved that. Yes, he performs in qualifiers against lesser opposition such as Latvia etc and yes he performs for Man U against lesser teams such as Fulham but he's no world beater, He doesn't perform when it matters i.e. in the World Cup Finals, in the Euros and in CL knock-out stages.

Get over him. He is replaceable and should be replaced on Thursday.

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