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Kenny Cunningham Comments; - merged threads
Topic Started: May 11 2006, 06:33 AM (4,036 Views)
PartisanBCFC
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May 11 2006, 07:54 AM
PartisanBCFC
May 11 2006, 08:19 AM
He hasn't been IN the sun......he obviously reads it

:rolleyes: <_<

i dont actually and, without coming over all wiselly, why try to cast me as having lower intellect than you or anybody else who posts on this subject? does that somehow strengthen your argument?
you demean yourself more than you do me with ill-thought out comments like this. very sad.. ;)

Typical PRO BRUCE Brigade member comment

Have you NO sense of humour ????

well,come to think of it ....if you want the club to continue with SB in charge of team affairs then I guess you DO have a UNIQUE sense of humour......my compliments

And as for coming over wiselly ............I think Wisel would protest profusely
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May 11 2006, 07:58 AM
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i remember SMART but didn't realise there was a SMARTER as well.
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shame partisan, real shame....i think there's plenty of people who can attest to my sense of humour. it may not be compatible with everyone's but at least i try...
had you meant your original comment humourously i would have happily accepted it as a pish-take as i often do. just add a smilie, eh? its not hard is it, as you subsequently proved... ;)
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What has been posted on this thread is not all that was said either. That was just the back page of the mail. There is a full page story in The Post - here is the summary of what the main interview said


KK loves the fans and our sense of humour even in the dark times. He's never had a problem with any Bluenose.

He can't accept that the players didn't give their all

Black wanted a fitness coach but Bruce binned him in September (sounds like Black knows what he's doing if you read Kenny's comments)

The club doesn't have enough staff behind the scenes to help out. You need to prevent injury, not treat it.

The was bu**er all done during the week to get ready for the next game and the biggest reason for our failure? Going into the season with 3 strikers, only one of whom was ready for the season, one wasn't fit until Blackburn and one who wasn't suited to our style of play (he says Rifle is a very talented player). KK alos points out that Jiri was rarely used correctly "he has more talent in his big toe than I have in my entire body"

KK thinks 4-4-2 didn't work and we should have gone 4-3-3 with a defensive holding midfielder and leave Jiri to do his stuff upfront

KK also reckons Bruce should either have said nothing or named the players who refused to play. In his opinion the player is the best person to say if he's fit to play, not the manager.


We were weak on the left so teams doubled up on Pennant who was our only threat and outlet.

The best line has to be about luck (or using bad luck as an excuse) "If you buy into that mode of thinking you are burying your head in the sand and this club will never progress"



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May 11 2006, 08:03 AM
shame partisan, real shame....i think there's plenty of people who can attest to my sense of humour. it may not be compatible with everyone's but at least i try...
had you meant your original comment humourously i would have happily accepted it as a pish-take as i often do. just add a smilie, eh? its not hard is it, as you subsequently proved... ;)

Come on Proccy. Don't rise to the bait - instead, tell us what you actually think of these damning revelations.

Bruce's position is untenable now - my only complaints about Kenny's words are that they weren't said earlier in the season.
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The more you read the more damning of Bruce it is

I would like to hear from someone that has read this that feels Bruce should still stay, and what possible reasoning there is behind it.
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May 11 2006, 09:10 AM
The more you read the more damning of Bruce it is

I would like to hear from someone that has read this that feels Bruce should still stay, and what possible reasoning there is behind it.

i've actually posted on another thread that i agree his position is 100% untenable now, as i have no reason to believe this is sour grapes from kenny who to me appears the model pro and a man of integrity. i'm not ashamed to say i supported sb as i thought he was going to be the right man for the job, but i'm also not ashamed to admit i was wrong when facts emerge to prove otherwise.
i hope that is clear enough and my position is now not in any doubt...?
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May 11 2006, 09:13 AM
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May 11 2006, 09:10 AM
The more you read the more damning of Bruce it is

I would like to hear from someone that has read this that feels Bruce should still stay, and what possible reasoning there is behind it.

i've actually posted on another thread that i agree his position is 100% untenable now, as i have no reason to believe this is sour grapes from kenny who to me appears the model pro and a man of integrity. i'm not ashamed to say i supported sb as i thought he was going to be the right man for the job, but i'm slao not ashamed to admit i was wrong when facts emerge to prove otherwise.
i hope that is clear enough and my position is now not in any doubt...?

Fair play Proccy for admiting that you have changed your mind.

There can be no reason for Bruce to stay now.
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Clear enough Proccy - thank you for clarifying your position. Unfortunately Bruce hoodwinked us all with his "nice guy" image - even I found it difficult to reconcile the image I was seeing on TV with the shambles going on at our club.
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This must be the end of Steve Bruce now, he has lost all remaining credability

Of course, if he could just leak that KC was one of the "strikers"...................................................

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i remember SMART but didn't realise there was a SMARTER as well.

Higher Tier PE mate, Higher Tier :P
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i remember SMART but didn't realise there was a SMARTER as well.

Higher Tier PE mate, Higher Tier :P

PE!!!!! if i had learnt it from there that would have been a bloomin miracle.

I learnt SMART from campaign planning

ON TOPIC

Proccy i have to agree with you. I am no longer a pro Brucer not wholly because of the KK interview but because of a list of things which may or may not tally with what the anti Bruce Brigade have been saying. The KK is the final nail in the coffin of a bad season and a poor manager living on a day to day basis in the role. I'm all about stopping the rot but i first believe that as a club BCFC must stop passing the Buck and take collective resposbility for the mess without any politics attached to any statement. We should be laying our cards on the table and making the changes needed. I don't think we will though.
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I'd be amazed to see Bruce stay now simply because now that KK has come out and said how he feels, what's to stop everyone else jumping on the bandwagon?? Even if the players at the club keep quiet, there's another 7 who can comment away on the club and probably will. Once this story spreads to Skysports etc, they will want to ask Jarosik and Clapham and Butt what they felt about Bruce.. Will certainly be an interesting few weeks.....

The only thing that will make me feel any better at all about religation and the club would be for Bruce to leave. I don't care what a "nice guy" he is and I don't care that he got us promoted before. He has brought us down, lost respect of fans and the dressing room and has frankly, lost the plot.

The bit about players giving that extra 5% if you have their respect seems to simply translate to "if we respected Bruce, maybe he could have found an extra 5% in us and we could have stayed up... but we dont".

Please Bruce, leave now with your head held high.... It wont be as high as if you'd left last week because now KK has spoken to the press. It will only get worse and worse and worse. If he goes now, he will be a legend. Leave it 2 more weeks and who knows?
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so not wanting to appear ,we told you so ,
some fans on here were right all along,
tactics
fitness
game plan
the board,
so you see some on here have a good knowledge of the game but time and time we get ridiculed by fellow posters,
i always try and live in the real world ,its a shame others cannot do the same,
king Kenny i have met a few times ,he is a deep thinker about the game,and if he is saying these things from within the club then things were as bad as we predicted,
i still think Brucie has been backed into a corner and will not be here next season,
and before posters go on ,I GET NO PLEASURE IN SEEING BLUES WHERE THEY ARE .
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the most worrying aspect for me is, assuming all the other players saw kenny as their leader, sb has no chance of swaying the "dressing room" in his favour now. if thats even partly the case, he has to go - divided we fall, i think it goes... :blink:
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The Full article. Makes very unconfortable reading. I have highlighted a few parts that i feel are key

The real failings at Blues May 11 2006







Kenny Cunningham is arguably one of the most popular players ever to wear a Birmingham City shirt. However, stung by criticism of the playing staff during their relegation campaign he contacted The Birmingham Post to put across his own view. Ian Clarkson reports...





On players not wanting to play

"I was very surprised when I read the articles, in particular the manager's comments. They sounded a bit conflicting. On one hand he was saying that players didn't want to play for the football club and on the other he wasn't going to name then because he wanted to offer them some protection.

"It seemed obvious to me if he wanted to offer players that kind of protection then he shouldn't have bought that story into the public domain to begin with. Having done so, he then should have individually named the players.

"By not naming the individual players he has, indirectly, put a big question mark over the integrity of every injured player, myself included, who didn't travel to Bolton.


"I should have been picking up a newspaper and reading an article about the game itself or maybe an article dissecting the reasons why we were relegated from the Premiership on a miserable total of 34 points. Instead, the whole article was about the unprofessional attitude, allegedly shown by a number of Birmingham players.


"The only person who can reliably tell you if he was or wasn't injured is the player himself and, as a manager, you have to take those players at their word."


On relegation


"First and foremost the club took the decision to go into this season with only three strikers. They elected to allow Clinton Morrison to move to Crystal Palace and to move into this season with only three strikers, which was against the gaffer's mantra of the fourth striker requirement you need in this division.


"Bearing in mind that one of those strikers was recovering from a serious knee reconstruction and was rehabilitating from that injury and who, in effect, didn't find his match fitness until the final two games of the season.


"One of the other players was beginning his first full season in the Premiership and, although a talented player, it was obvious his style of play wasn't ideally suited to the Birmingham City style of play.


"I think it was a huge mistake. It was a huge gamble and it backfired badly on us. I think we really struggled in the first half of the season certainly to score goals and create goals. It wasn't until January 2006 that we could try and rectify that situation by bringing in one or two other centre forwards in.


"Secondly, from a tactical point of view we made mistake.


"Just before the deadline we took the opportunity to bring Jiri Jarosik to the football club who is a fine player and is hugely talented. He has more talent in his big toe than I have in my entire body.


"We failed over the course of the season to integrate him into the team.


"The players knew that only a central midfield position with very little defensive responsibility would be the best position to get the best out of Jiri. That meant changing the formation to a 4-3-3 formation with a holding midfield player giving him the freedom to play in front and try and affect the game as he saw fit.


"Unfortunately we only played that formation for one or two games, one of which was Newcastle away. We lost 1-0 but I thought it was one of our best performances of the season. I thought we looked like a cohesive unit and Jiri looked like he could flourish within that system.

"Unfortunately that didn't last and we went back to our tried and tested 4-4-2 formation. We tried to integrate Jiri in the team predominantly on the left hand side of midfield, a position he wasn't comfortable in.


"He found it difficult to hold his position on that side of the pitch and he was always looking to come inside and get on to the football and I think that unbalanced the team.


"We had no penetration on the left-hand side of the pitch and, as a result became hugely dependant on Jermaine Pennant's service from the right.


"I am sure a number of teams arrived at St Andrew's during the first half of the season and said 'Let's double up on Pennant and out him out of the game. At the very worst we will get at least a point.
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"We struggled to keep clean sheets and that is a recipe for disaster. We weren't creating chances, not scoring goals and not defensively as secure a unit as we have been."


Raising the issues


"A huge number of people, including the manager, agreed that man for man we were as talented as any team in the Premiership, apart from the top five and I think there is a lot of truth to it.


"Man for man we could hold our own against the likes of Blackburn, Bolton, and West Ham. If you agree with that statement then you have to find a reason why we finished up to 30 points behind those clubs.


"People might accuse the attitude and application of the players - that's a non-starter. I have been in that environment working alongside those players and I know the nucleus of that team is as professional and as conscientious as any I have ever played with during my career.


"These accusations have hurt the players, but I am in a position now to say that wasn't the case. There was a real desire and motivation among the players to make that season a success.


"Unfortunately, and I take no pleasure in saying this, the reason was due to a lack of organisation, preparation and attention to detail at the football club.

"The only person who must take responsibility for that is the manager.


"The performance of the team on Saturday is directly influenced by what goes on and off the training pitch for the six days prior to that game. That is a fact. For me, our preparation was nowhere near good enough."


Crisis meetings


"We had crisis meetings throughout the season as every team does. The manager asked for honest opinions from players as to how we could improve and the message from the players every time was the same.


"We need to prepare better for the games on a Saturday. We are not as prepared and organised as we should be. We need to use our time on the training pitch more productively
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"There has been a suggestion this season that we had been relegated because we were t h e unluckiest team ever in Premiership history.


"If you by into that mode of thinking you are burying your head into the sand and this club will never progress."


On injuries


"In relation to the injury list at this football club, luck does play a part to a small degree.


"I stress, to a very small degree. What people should be talking about and aren't, is the area of injury prevention at a football club.


"This is an issue that has been discussed by players, managers and coaches over the past couple of years.


"Some clubs are streets ahead of others in this area. It is no surprise that the clubs who have invested heavily in this area of the football club are the ones who have their players on the training pitch and off the treatment table for the vast majority of the season. That is indisputable fact.


"To some people, injury prevention means telling your players not to kick each other in training. To others it is an actual science in itself and taken very seriously.


"What it involves is assembling a group of full-time professionals at club numbering ten to 12 people.


"Physiotherapists, masseurs, fitness/conditioning coaches and dietician all working in conjunction with each other and alongside the coaching staff with one ultimate goal; to ensure every professional at the club is in peak physical condition.


"The reason is that players who are at peak physical condition during the majority of season are less susceptible to injuries than players who aren't - fact.


"We are all different as players and our physical make up is different. The job of this department is to locate these players, their particular deficiencies and work alongside them during the course of the season and rectify those problems


"More often than not you will find those players on the training pitch day in and day out. However, you need people in the football club in positions of power to buy into that mentality, otherwise you can forget it.


"As well as believing in it you have got to finance it. That will set you back half a million pounds and is good value for money for me. For other short-term thinking people, maybe it isn't."


On the fitness coach


"At the start of this season, again at the instigation of Eric Black, we bought a fitness coach in from France on a full-time basis, Arnaud Bruchard.


"He was responsible for the day-to-day running of our pre-season operation.


"It was most eye-opening experience of my professional career as a pre-season. The attention to detail and how the whole pre-season operation was structured was highly impressive.


"The players bought into it and they really enjoyed it and felt that the club is making progress and moving forward.


"Three weeks into the season after a disappointing start, Arnaud gets the bullet and, in the eyes of the players, is made the scapegoat for our poor start.


"That left a lot of players, myself included, very dispirited and very disillusioned at a very early stage of the season.



"In terms of physical fitness from that point on, it slowly deteriorated until the end of the season in my opinion.


"Fans will look at players and immediately assume 'he's not trying'. In my opinion, what you are seeing is a player on the football pitch very disillusioned and very dispirited.


"Players aren't idiots. From a very early stage of that season we knew we had a massive job on our hands to stay in this division because of those particular reasons."


The club


"Sam Hamman owned Wimbledon and his energy and optimism infected everyone around the football club. He loved all of his employees and treated them very well.


"Sam was astute and knew by treating people in that manner, he would get loyalty back tenfold.


"There was a special spirit from the suits in the boardroom to the tea lady at the training ground that bonded everyone together. It felt as though it had a heartbeat, which was palpable to everyone who came into contact with Wimbledon.


"Birmingham seems like a stiff corpse in comparison to that. It has no heartbeat and more worryingly, no soul.


"I fear that while things remain the same the fans and players will never experience the kind of success, which I feel they deserve."


On next season


"I saw bullish quotes from David Sullivan and David Gold about how they were going to bounce straight back up to the Premiership.


"I think David Sullivan made a statement that they would be able to sustain a wage bill far higher than nearly all clubs in the division by comparison.


"When you take into account the huge savings on wages, the parachute payment and the profit the club has earned over the past number of years that must have given supporters grounds for optimism.


"Given the personal wealth of David Sullivan and the Gold brothers then I would have thought that is grounds for a street party in Birmingham. If I was looking at it objectively I would be putting every penny I have on Birmingham getting back to the Premiership.


"But I don't sense that kind of optimism around the city speaking to people. Supporters aren't going to be kidded and I think they realise that money is going to stay in the bank and isn't going to find it's way into the manager's coffers.


"The manager is going to have to cut his cloth accordingly, which is totally at odds with the initial statement from the owners."


On the owners


"Jack Walker and Steve Gibson are two individuals who have amassed significant personal wealth.


"But I think their attitude to the football clubs differs hugely to the attitude of David Sullivan and the Gold brothers.


"The difference is that these people were born into those areas and grew up alongside the football club and its supporters and as a result had a real passion for the football club and a love of the area.


"That was their motivation for investing what they did in their football clubs. It was a huge commitment but I think they had written that money off and their payback was the respect admiration and gratitude of every single supporter of that football club.


"When David Sullivan and the Gold brothers decide to walk away - and they will - will there be that same amount of sentiment and emotion on the terraces?


"I'm guessing not."


On the fans


"I would like to thank them for reception I received against Newcastle, as it meant a lot.


"I have made my home in the Midlands and never had a cross word with any Blues supporter around the city.


"It is their passion for the football club and their sense of perspective even in dark moments and their sense of humour that will stay with me long after I have left football club."


On the players


"I have always enjoyed a good relationship with the players at every dressing room I have been in. There are some great professionals at Blues and I wish them every success."


On the manager


"As a manager the most important relationship you can have is with your players. It is nice to have an intimate relationship with the chairman and directors of the football club or chief executive.


"But for me that is inconsequential. If you aren't getting results you are heading out of the door. That relationship may buy you a few more months' grace - that's all. Eventually you are heading through the trap door
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"But if you have the respect and trust of your players for me as a manager that is a much more solid foundation.


"You gain respect by standing a short step in front of your players and leading them and backing them to the hilt as best you can. Even if that means incurring the wrath of the power brokers at the football club.


"There will come a time when you have to stare down the players in your dressing room, albeit they may be physically and mentally broken, and demand an extra five per cent from each and every one of them.


"If you've got that respect and trust from the players you will get a reaction and those players will find that extra five per cent. If you don't, all you get from the players is a blank stare."


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wise words from KK. Wish he was still here.

a long long road awaits us
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Damning stuff and not something that we didn't feel a long time ago.

Thank you Kenny for doing for us what the board should have done and giving Bruce the bullet!
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cheers sta4e for posting that

it makes for sad and disturbing reading in full, and i for one dont harbour much hope for an instant return to the prem. it is beginiing to look as though grncoma was right all along about our board too, and most of the rest of us were wrong. its a very sad day for blues i fear, sadder than the mere fact of relegation imo, because from what kenny is saying the future looks bleak....unless ds/dg embrace the comments and enact change NOW - come on, sb has to go lets admit it.
seems to me though, that eb comes out of it with credit as a foresighted and astute guy, maybe he should stay and develop the training/coaching side of things to the correct levels, and let the NEW manager concentrate on the players and tactics for the games in hand.... :( :blink:
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cheers sta4e for posting that

it makes for sad and disturbing reading in full, and i for one dont harbour much hope for an instant return to the prem. it is beginiing to look as though grncoma was right all along about our board too, and most of the rest of us were wrong. its a very sad day for blues i fear, sadder than the mere fact of relegation imo, because from what kenny is saying the future looks bleak....unless ds/dg embrace the comments and enact change NOW - come on, sb has to go lets admit it.
seems to me though, that eb comes out of it with credit as a foresighted and astute guy, maybe he should stay and develop the training/coaching side of things to the correct levels, and let the NEW manager concentrate on the players and tactics for the games in hand.... :( :blink:

It really is depressing reading.

The comments made about Eric Black were very interesting. It seems as if he has had concerns about the direction of this club for a while but they were ignored.

The fitness, injury, coaching issues have been visable for a while but the comments that troubled me most are about the club having no heart and no soul.

It really is time for a major change at this club - else i fear league 1 might not be that far off :unsure:

I have only just come to terms with relegation - now this comes along and feels like another hammer blow to the heart of this club that we all love so much

:(
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hiya proccy,
its never for me about right or wrong,
its about identifing mistakes and putting those mistakes right,
but first to put a problem right you first have to admit you have a problem.
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Why be depressed? Get over the shock of reading these comments and realise that today is the rest of BCFC's life. The truth is out in the open now, whatever the board may try to do to suppress it. These comments could - maybe should - have been said 12 months ago, but better late than never. Now the club can wake from its self-inflicted slumber and take genuine stock of the situation.
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Get this man back at our club to help sort this mess out
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May 11 2006, 10:17 AM
Why be depressed? Get over the shock of reading these comments and realise that today is the rest of BCFC's life. The truth is out in the open now, whatever the board may try to do to suppress it. These comments could - maybe should - have been said 12 months ago, but better late than never. Now the club can wake from its self-inflicted slumber and take genuine stock of the situation.

What happens if the club rebute these claims and counter claim that Kenny has made all this up as he is bitter he didnt get a new contract?

How do we know this will make them take stock and sort the situation out?
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damning indeed

bit i am HONESTLY not surprised

the club at the moment is falling apart

shoddy preperation appalling selection and transfer decisions

we should be more worried about staying in the championship than going up !!

i like bruce as a bloke

BUT have sensed and heard for a long time that he had lost the plot

the cracks were beginning to appear 18 months ago

the decisions in the transfer market are too numerous to mention

playing players in areas that we didnt particulairly need players or were not the type of player we required (just because they were available BUTT SUTTON etc )

its a shambolic mess



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