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Kenny Cunningham Comments; - merged threads
Topic Started: May 11 2006, 06:33 AM (4,034 Views)
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Geoff Horsfield
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The mail tonight will be full of it. This is the end for Steve Bruce. He simply can't carry on, he lost the dressing room ages ago, he lost us a place in the Premiership, and now he should lose his job.

He's spent millions of pounds in the last 4 years and what has he achieved? Nothing. We're right back where we started from. Any man who does that in any business should be sacked.
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May 11 2006, 08:08 AM
What has been posted on this thread is not all that was said either. That was just the back page of the mail. There is a full page story in The Post - here is the summary of what the main interview said


KK loves the fans and our sense of humour even in the dark times. He's never had a problem with any Bluenose.

He can't accept that the players didn't give their all

Black wanted a fitness coach but Bruce binned him in September (sounds like Black knows what he's doing if you read Kenny's comments)

The club doesn't have enough staff behind the scenes to help out. You need to prevent injury, not treat it.

The was bu**er all done during the week to get ready for the next game and the biggest reason for our failure? Going into the season with 3 strikers, only one of whom was ready for the season, one wasn't fit until Blackburn and one who wasn't suited to our style of play (he says Rifle is a very talented player). KK alos points out that Jiri was rarely used correctly "he has more talent in his big toe than I have in my entire body"

KK thinks 4-4-2 didn't work and we should have gone 4-3-3 with a defensive holding midfielder and leave Jiri to do his stuff upfront

KK also reckons Bruce should either have said nothing or named the players who refused to play. In his opinion the player is the best person to say if he's fit to play, not the manager.


We were weak on the left so teams doubled up on Pennant who was our only threat and outlet.

The best line has to be about luck (or using bad luck as an excuse) "If you buy into that mode of thinking you are burying your head in the sand and this club will never progress"

He pretty much said what we have beensaying all season.

1) Concerns over fitness regime
2)Poor tactics i.e two defensive midefileders everygame - Jiri out of position
3)Lack of preperation for games

This has been mine and most fans concern over the duration of the season.

His comments on the state of the club as a whole and contrasting us with Wimbledon and comparing David Sullivan and the Gold Brothers with Steve Gibson and Jack Walker I dont really buy into. The Steve Gibsons and Jack Walkers are one offs. Our board have backed us and at the same time been financially prudent and up to this point built the club up from season to season. We are a corporate club run more like Manchester UTD however every season the money the club generates goes back into the club not the owners pockets. Is that really so terrible? I think Kenny is really angry with the owners for their comments over the course of the season more than anything.

What it boils down to is the management of the team that has been bought into question consistently over the season on various web forums, the pub and the ground etc. This is what has got us relegated. When you read Kennys comments you can be forgiven hes been reading this forum the views of the majority of fans on this forum were so similar to his.

Ive said my peace.
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I think I agree with the bulk of his remarks.

1. Why have we had some many injuries last season?

2. Why did the players look knackered at 65 mins every match?

Bruce is responsible for this and therefore he should go.

However, I support the Directors, I cannot criticise them for saving our club and DS comments are usually what we are thinking.


Bluenose till I die
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Lou Smorals
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Kenny Cunningham is a prize *****

Not sour grapes my arsse. If he'd had a decent offer he'd never be saying these things because he'd still be at the club. Money talks, or in this case money wouldn't have talked.

There are big problems, we all know that including the board and the management, and hopefully they'll get sorted sooner rather than later, but all he's done is drag our name through the mud again at a time when we least need it.

And before everyone on this board gangs up on me this isn't a pro-Bruce post, I couldn't care less if Bruce is sacked. I'm more concerned about our reputation not falling lower than it already is after a nightmare season and relegation.
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no matter that it may not be 100% the fact that it is there at all is enough to see there is a major problem at the club!
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May 11 2006, 12:28 PM
Kenny Cunningham is a prize ****

I wish you'd speak your mind and stop all this beating round the bush lark!
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who decided to sack the fitness coach & start the season with only 3 strikers one of which was still injured ? kk states the club, does this mean the owners because they had massive repurcussions if it was. :angry: sack e'm all
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Every Bluenose should read KC's damning indictment of everyday life at Blues. It confirms absolutly evertyhing most of us have suspected all season eg, lack of preparation, injury prevention, zero tactics etc along with the amazing lack of respect that clearly exists for Bruce in the most important place of all at a football club -the dressing room.

Before the sheep jump in to comdem him as a bitter and twisted individual with an axe to grind I think we should consider that the person saying this is not your run of the mill semi literate footballer. Anyone who nows KC or has spent any time in his company will know that he is highly intelligent, and a **thumbup genuine person who is articualte, and speaks with a lot of common sense.

His behind the scenes expose of life at Blues should shame them all and Bruce should resign NOW.

We deserve better than that.
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May 11 2006, 12:28 PM
Kenny Cunningham is a prize

Not sour grapes my arsse. If he'd had a decent offer he'd never be saying these things because he'd still be at the club. Money talks, or in this case money wouldn't have talked.

There are big problems, we all know that including the board and the management, and hopefully they'll get sorted sooner rather than later, but all he's done is drag our name through the mud again at a time when we least need it.

And before everyone on this board gangs up on me this isn't a pro-Bruce post, I couldn't care less if Bruce is sacked. I'm more concerned about our reputation not falling lower than it already is after a nightmare season and relegation.

Kenny wanted to retire at the end of last season, Bruce persuaded him to stay (just as up until a couple of weeks ago Bruce was talking about getting him to stay for next year). I don't think the fact he's not staying here drove him to say what he has.

He has been brilliant for us and is as unassuming a pro as you could wish to find.

I'd rather get this out in the open and address it than bury it in the sand and walk off whistling saying "everythings going to be fine, we're going up" yadayadayada...
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I know kenny is an extremly decent bloke but as I said in another thread he should have walked with dignity rather than starting a fight. I can't help but be disappointed with the way he has dealt with this. It really hurts to feel that way towards a player I have the uttermost respect for but that is how I see it.
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May 11 2006, 12:51 PM
I know kenny is an extremly decent bloke but as I said in another thread he should have walked with dignity rather than starting a fight. I can't help but be disappointed with the way he has dealt with this. It really hurts to feel that way towards a player I have the uttermost respect for but that is how I see it.

On the other hand :

There are serious things wrong at blues that need to be dealt with

Bringing them out into the open makes it more likely that they will be dealt with

So KK has done us all a favour
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loyal blue
May 11 2006, 12:51 PM
I know kenny is an extremly decent bloke but as I said in another thread he should have walked with dignity rather than starting a fight. I can't help but be disappointed with the way he has dealt with this. It really hurts to feel that way towards a player I have the uttermost respect for but that is how I see it.

Why? IMO he has done the right thing. Would you have prefered it if he had said nothing and the same stale stench kept rising from the club?
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May 11 2006, 12:54 PM
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May 11 2006, 12:51 PM
I know kenny is an extremly decent bloke but as I said in another thread he should have walked with dignity rather than starting a fight. I can't help but be disappointed with the way he has dealt with this. It really hurts to feel that way towards a player I have the uttermost respect for but that is how I see it.

On the other hand :

There are serious things wrong at blues that need to be dealt with

Bringing them out into the open makes it more likely that they will be dealt with

So KK has done us all a favour

I disagree, we don't need to know things like that. Kenny could have gone to the Bruce, the baord whoever and discussed his concerns, they are no more likely to listen to him if he airs his veiws publically. He would have kept respect on all sides and his veiws would still have been expressed.
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blusabre
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To be honest I agree coming out in the press is not the best thing he could have done. He is obviously upset with both the manager and the board. But from his comments you cann see that the real problem lies with Bruce as to the reasons we were relegated. I think the most sensible course of action for him to have taken regardless of his feelings for the owners was to tell them straight 'I would never belittle the manager during the course of the campaign however he is the reason for our relegation, he's lost the dressing room etc.' So the appropriate course of action could have been taken. If any good can come of this its the managers removal.
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May 11 2006, 12:56 PM
Kenny could have gone to the Bruce, the baord whoever and discussed his concerns, they are no more likely to listen to him if he airs his veiws publically. He would have kept respect on all sides and his veiws would still have been expressed.

Nah, they would have ignored him completely.
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Lou Smorals
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May 11 2006, 01:33 PM
Lou Smorals
May 11 2006, 12:28 PM
Kenny Cunningham is a prize *****

I wish you'd speak your mind and stop all this beating round the bush lark!

:lol:

Well, this has really got me annnoyed.

We know there are all sorts of problems, why couldn't he have just said "I'm not staying, the club has problems, they need addressing" instead of unleashing this outburst on the club.

That's what I would have expected from a 'model professional'.

I don't think anyone's burying their head in the sand either. If they were the season would have ended & everyone would have gone on holiday and not been seen or heard of until pre-season. That simply is not the case. There's been meetings, players have gone, backroom staff have gone, contracts have been signed by some and that's just what we actually know about.
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May 11 2006, 01:00 PM
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May 11 2006, 12:56 PM
Kenny could have gone to the Bruce, the baord whoever and discussed his concerns, they are no more likely to listen to him if he airs his veiws publically. He would have kept respect on all sides and his veiws would still have been expressed.

Nah, they would have ignored him completely.

Possibly but from David Sullivans comments its easy to decipher that he has lost a lot of faith in Steve Bruce's ability to manage the club.
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Cunningham knows Blues fans are hurting right now and what does he decide to do, He decides to insult Birmingham and get the fans even more ticked off, Cunningham I thank you for your four years and I respect you for what you did at the club, But now I think your personality SUCKS big time, Bad luck in the future.
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May 11 2006, 01:00 PM
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May 11 2006, 12:56 PM
Kenny could have gone to the Bruce, the baord whoever and discussed his concerns, they are no more likely to listen to him if he airs his veiws publically. He would have kept respect on all sides and his veiws would still have been expressed.

Nah, they would have ignored him completely.

I really can't see that the club are only going to react if the comments are made public. If Kenny had gone to the board and expressed his issues, if they saw that there was a problem, then they would have dealt with it. They aren't going to think "well we wouldnt have done anything but seeing as its in the press we better"
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May 11 2006, 01:06 PM
mr penguin
May 11 2006, 01:00 PM
loyal blue
May 11 2006, 12:56 PM
Kenny could have gone to the Bruce, the baord whoever and discussed his concerns, they are no more likely to listen to him if he airs his veiws publically. He would have kept respect on all sides and his veiws would still have been expressed.

Nah, they would have ignored him completely.

I really can't see that the club are only going to react if the comments are made public. If Kenny had gone to the board and expressed his issues, if they saw that there was a problem, then they would have dealt with it. They aren't going to think "well we wouldnt have done anything but seeing as its in the press we better"

i dunno, there club statment is not a dieniel, they will have to look like there doing something now or they might find that the fans will revolt.

to my knowledge there is only one supporter of SB on here(at this presant time).

from what i have read it seems most of the pro-bruce are changing minds now this has come out.

if the swing goes further then they have no option but to adress the situation.
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I think KK has looked at we've been told all season and what's actually gone on and felt some guilt towards the fans for them being clueless to the truth. Why wouldn't KK come out now after what was said by Sully about the players. I reckon it's bottled up anger and frustration and a good ear to talk to in Ian Clarkson.
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May 11 2006, 02:11 PM
Why wouldn't KK come out now after what was said by Sully about the players. I reckon it's bottled up anger and frustration and a good ear to talk to in Ian Clarkson.

Exactly...sour grapes from someone trying to get their own back.
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May 11 2006, 01:13 PM
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May 11 2006, 02:11 PM
Why wouldn't KK come out now after what was said by Sully about the players. I reckon it's bottled up anger and frustration and a good ear to talk to in Ian Clarkson.

Exactly...sour grapes from someone trying to get their own back.

i wouldn't class that as sour grapes. Remember it was Kenny who was weighing up if he wanted to stay past this season in August. We always knew that Keeny would probably go and i get the impression he was always going to go as well. He wouldn't say this whilst at the club which is a proffesional attitude to take. He's told what i believe IMO to be an accurate picture of the club that we do not see and possibly deserve to know more about.
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dr.nick
May 11 2006, 01:11 PM
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May 11 2006, 01:06 PM
mr penguin
May 11 2006, 01:00 PM
loyal blue
May 11 2006, 12:56 PM
Kenny could have gone to the Bruce, the baord whoever and discussed his concerns, they are no more likely to listen to him if he airs his veiws publically. He would have kept respect on all sides and his veiws would still have been expressed.

Nah, they would have ignored him completely.

I really can't see that the club are only going to react if the comments are made public. If Kenny had gone to the board and expressed his issues, if they saw that there was a problem, then they would have dealt with it. They aren't going to think "well we wouldnt have done anything but seeing as its in the press we better"

i dunno, there club statment is not a dieniel, they will have to look like there doing something now or they might find that the fans will revolt.

to my knowledge there is only one supporter of SB on here(at this presant time).

from what i have read it seems most of the pro-bruce are changing minds now this has come out.

if the swing goes further then they have no option but to adress the situation.

I don't doubt that you are right that things are going to have to change now, but if they are things that need changing then surely they would have been changed even if this had been discussed on the quiet?

I don't know if I am your pro Bruce person? I am actually not, I have kept quiet on that front because for me the point i'm making isn't about whether Bruce should stay or go, its about whether this should have been expresse din the manner it was.
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Gotta agree Bluemoon! This Cunningham interview has knocked me sideways!
Kennys the one player at St. As. whose opinion I respect most of all. For him to come out with this withering criticism,makes SBs position impossible.
How about a young hungry manager from the lower divisions in the mould of Billy Davies of Preston.I heard on the radio recently that hes got his team trained to play 50(yes 50) different free kick moves. How many have we got? One! i.e. Pennant over the bar.
David Gold please bite the bullet before its too late!
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