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Kenny Cunningham Comments; - merged threads
Topic Started: May 11 2006, 06:33 AM (4,033 Views)
dr.nick
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May 11 2006, 01:18 PM
dr.nick
May 11 2006, 01:11 PM
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May 11 2006, 01:06 PM
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May 11 2006, 01:00 PM
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May 11 2006, 12:56 PM
Kenny could have gone to the Bruce, the baord whoever and discussed his concerns, they are no more likely to listen to him if he airs his veiws publically. He would have kept respect on all sides and his veiws would still have been expressed.

Nah, they would have ignored him completely.

I really can't see that the club are only going to react if the comments are made public. If Kenny had gone to the board and expressed his issues, if they saw that there was a problem, then they would have dealt with it. They aren't going to think "well we wouldnt have done anything but seeing as its in the press we better"

i dunno, there club statment is not a dieniel, they will have to look like there doing something now or they might find that the fans will revolt.

to my knowledge there is only one supporter of SB on here(at this presant time).

from what i have read it seems most of the pro-bruce are changing minds now this has come out.

if the swing goes further then they have no option but to adress the situation.

I don't doubt that you are right that things are going to have to change now, but if they are things that need changing then surely they would have been changed even if this had been discussed on the quiet?

I don't know if I am your pro Bruce person? I am actually not, I have kept quiet on that front because for me the point i'm making isn't about whether Bruce should stay or go, its about whether this should have been expresse din the manner it was.

na it was'nt you i was on about , i know you want SB to go. **thumbup


i think this will now make the mind up of the board, in my eyes there can be no other option.
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After reading all his comments i think what i've been saying all season is right.

Eric Black is not to blame (the amount of posts blaming him was ridicolous and i got sick of having to defend him TBF), We probably had too many yes men in the backroom staff, and Bruce has to take ALL the blame - i'm not the only one who's said this of course.

I'm absolutely livid i dunno how i'm gonna calm down i really don't
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May 11 2006, 02:33 PM
After reading all his comments i think what i've been saying all season is right.

Eric Black is not to blame (the amount of posts blaming him was ridicolous and i got sick of having to defend him TBF), We probably had too many yes men in the backroom staff, and Bruce has to take ALL the blame - i'm not the only one who's said this of course.

I'm absolutely livid i dunno how i'm gonna calm down i really don't

Thats how i have felt since i read the statement this morning.

I dont blame Kenny at all - in fact he is right to come out in support of his fellow professionals and back them against the blame that Bruce is trying to shift onto them. It must have hurt Kenny to have to go to such extremes but that is a measure of how strongly he feels about this situation.

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Jesus i'm almost in tears
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I can't possibly see how he can stay a moment longer. A few more revalations a quick xpose on Sky sports and an evening mail poll and he'll be off. Hell we could even pull out the fans favourite and someone to do a petition!
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If what Cunningham says is true,why didnt something get done when these problems arose?Why is Bruce still in a job?
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May 11 2006, 01:44 PM
If what Cunningham says is true,why didnt something get done when these problems arose?Why is Bruce still in a job?

probably because of these.

£££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s
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May 11 2006, 02:44 PM
If what Cunningham says is true,why didnt something get done when these problems arose?Why is Bruce still in a job?

Well according to what he has said it was mentioned to Bruce several times and nothing was done about it. That means Bruce is accountable.
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There are 2 sides to every story and its not uncommon for ex employees to criticise their ex employer especially when things have gone badly, such as relegation, falling sales a factory closure and so on.

I can see a lot of sense in what Kenny said about the team preparation, one only has to look at the performances on the pitch since Bowen went.

I don’t except the criticism of the board.

The last captain to be so damning about a Blues Board was Vince Overson and sadly he was right but on this occasion I think Kenny is wrong. The club is a vibrant one and all external commentators would say the same. Some fans on here even criticise the club for getting sponsorship for various things and I think that is churlish and not called for. The intention of the sponsorship is to generate funds for the club.

For all those of you sticking the boot in on the Board cast your mind back (if you were around then) to when Vince Overson was complaining.
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Who's KK ?
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Blueshrew Posted on May 11 2006, 03:08 PM
  There are 2 sides to every story and its not uncommon for ex employees to criticise their ex employer especially when things have gone badly, such as relegation, falling sales a factory closure and so on.




I disagree. It is VERY UNCOMMON.

Players know they will get a reputation, and that might affect their perks and future moves, so they take the money and keep quiet.

Which makes Kenny Cunningham's response so courageous and brave. He may not have a long time left, but he has put that into the mix, by standing up for the players who cannot speak out. He did this as an ex-captain.

There are two sides to every story.

The first side was Steve Bruce's.
Kenny Cunningham's was the second side.

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May 11 2006, 02:13 PM
Who's KK ?

King Kenny
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May 11 2006, 02:15 PM
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May 11 2006, 02:13 PM
Who's KK ?

King Kenny

I agree about Steve Bruce

Its the Board and the club without a soal I object to. Bloody Wimbeldon you must be having a laugh................
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May 11 2006, 02:08 PM
The last captain to be so damning about a Blues Board was Vince Overson and sadly he was right but on this occasion I think Kenny is wrong. The club is a vibrant one and all external commentators would say the same.

As you say... two sides to every story and you're entitled to your view that Kenny is wrong. However... I happen to believe him. If it had been almost any other player saying it I'd have my doubts... but why would KC say this... he's hardly a spring chicken with a lengthy future ahead of him. I think he's honest and decent and feels for the fans (see his comments) and... he has the right to defend his playing colleagues. His comments about morale and fitness are particularly relevant.
 
And as for your comments about "the club is a vibrant one... etc" Well, I don't give a t0$$ what external commentators say... it's the ones closest to the club who should know. Look at the facts... we're relegated... probably the most talented squad ever to be relegated... something has caused it.
 
Opinions can't be right or wrong... they can only be different!
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The club is a vibrant one

I couldn't possibly disagree more. Success, progress, finances and the ability of the playing staff do not make a club. For me we've lost that special 'thing' that makes Birmingham City. To me we've been turned into a modern day football club with all the modern day trappings that take the uniqueness away from individual football clubs.

In the modern day game all the grounds are the same, all the songs are the same, all that matters is money and players have completely lost touch with the reality of the supporters that the represent. Kenny is right about what he says about Blues having no soul but where, I feel, he might be wrong is that the Wimbledon that he left simply do not exist at any level of top league football anymore.
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No offence Blueshrew put you sound like 'Comical Ali' - "war there is no war - Iraq is fine, we have nothing to worry about"

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Well its clear in the interview Kenny and the players on numerous occasions, tried to change things. They mentioned preparation, fitness etc. But it was ignored. If they ignore you throughout the season. How else do you get a reaction out of the Blues? but through the press! - hes brought the problems into the public domain, so they can be hopefully addressed. I'd take a little embarrasment for an overhaul for the better. Afterall what has Kenny really done? Aired his views. They've just backed up what most fans have been saying for a while.

Kenny has probably regretfully made this interview. He's never striked me as a player who craves the limelight, but I for one is extremely grateful hes come out and said these things. Not being part of the team, hes got every right to do so. ........and lets be fair. If he wanted to be damning, i'm sure he could have been far more critical than he has.

Now all Blues fans know what is going on. We have a right to know, and now its in the public domain, what do the board do? Take it as criticism of themselves. They missed the point. The Blues statement was defensive, but only of the board.

Time the blues looked at themselves from top to bottom.

Bruce has always been stubborn and not taking advice, not listening to others, wanting to be another Fergie, has brought about our demise. Maybe thats why Bowen left. Maybe thats why Savage left. - The fans have been pretty easy on you Bruce. But you've outstrayed your welcome.
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May 11 2006, 02:26 PM
Kenny is right about what he says about Blues having no soul but where, I feel, he might be wrong is that the Wimbledon that he left simply do not exist at any level of top league football anymore.

Yeah this is very true - and before anyone criticises the board completely they have to take this fact into account
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Kenny's article really did stun me. Every word of it I agree with and it's obvious this bloke is a real winner and will go onto make a great manager himself, should he choose to do so.

It must ofbeen frustrating for such a great proffesional to standby and watch mistake after mistake this season, made by manager and board.
Fair play to him speaking his mind. SOme might think sour grapes because he's been released, but I can't disagree with a word he said there.

Thanks for the great service Kenny, you did us proud.
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May 11 2006, 02:26 PM
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The club is a vibrant one

I couldn't possibly disagree more. Success, progress, finances and the ability of the playing staff do not make a club. For me we've lost that special 'thing' that makes Birmingham City. To me we've been turned into a modern day football club with all the modern day trappings that take the uniqueness away from individual football clubs.

In the modern day game all the grounds are the same, all the songs are the same, all that matters is money and players have completely lost touch with the reality of the supporters that the represent. Kenny is right about what he says about Blues having no soul but where, I feel, he might be wrong is that the Wimbledon that he left simply do not exist at any level of top league football anymore.

I agree what he said about Bruce not what he said about the club in General or the Board.

No Soul.......Your having a laugh.....85% of season ticket holders were born within a 5 mile radius of St Andrews. Tell me another club with a fantastic Unique anthem.....Birmingham are a very high profile club and have been since 1993. Every fan of every other club I speak to always comments on the noise and the aptmosphere at St Andrews compared to other grounds.

Please someone explain a club with out a soul where and how does this manifest itself. We havnt been relegated because the club is a lifless corpse but because very talented players have played very badly because we all suspect of bad coaching.
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May 11 2006, 02:26 PM
No offence Blueshrew put you sound like 'Comical Ali' - "war there is no war - Iraq is fine, we have nothing to worry about"

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:lol: :lol:

LMAO
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dos the mail say something about more reveleations to come tomorrow
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or is just more of the orig post interview ?

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May 11 2006, 03:12 PM
dos the mail say something about more reveleations to come tomorrow
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or is just more of the orig post interview ?

If anyone wants to read all six parts of the article follow the link.

http://www.mailmsg.com/SPAM_python.htmp=83
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The below appeared in the Mail last week.

"Kenny Cunningham today expressed his belief that Blues were capable of bouncing straight back to the Premiership next season, writes Colin Tattum in today's Birmingham Mail."

What a difference a week makes.

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May 11 2006, 02:26 PM
No offence Blueshrew put you sound like 'Comical Ali' - "war there is no war - Iraq is fine, we have nothing to worry about"

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No offence taken but you obviously can’t comprehend, what you read.

At what point did I say everything was fine?

What I was doing was defending the Boards role. The Manager is clearly to blame for us being relegated and I think Sullivan knows it.
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