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Holland
Topic Started: Jul 6 2014, 05:37 PM (178 Views)
pooley
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Seen a lot of people praising Costa Rica, and yes they played well, but much like the Belgium / USA game the best team won, and I can't go in for this sentimentality of the underdog did well to compete. It's a results business and in both games the cream rose to the top

From great group games it has been disappointing to see the lesser teams park the bus in these knock out stages. Costa Rica showed in the last few mins and a little in extra time that when they attacked they looked dangerous, and they had a chance to nick it at the end. Did they waste their opportunity being too defensive? They definitely had quality when they dared to show it.

Brave decision by Louis to bring on krul for the pens as a gk doesn't normally have pressure during a shoot out, the pressure is on the attacker, but by bringing krul on as some sort of penalty expert all the pressure was on tim and he pulled through. Was that a master stroke by Louis or pure luck?

Either way fair play to Costa Rica for not giving up but next time have a go and show the ability you have to the world as well as the desire.

As for holland, they can do the pretty stuff along with the ugly side of things - confident for them to go all the way
Edited by pooley, Jul 6 2014, 05:40 PM.
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Ironic that Holland couldn't score against Costa Rica over 120 plus minutes and England couldn't manage one either over just 90 plus a bit ....both ended 0-0

Had Sturridge not been so awful in front of goal , it might have been different

Ah well.......there's always Russia in 4 years .......that's if FIFA don't take it away from them

Holland v Germany Final on July 13th for me .....a repeat of the 1974 Final when we witnessed great stars such as Maier, Beckenbauer Muller and Bonhoff for the Germans and "The Master" Johann Cryuff, Neeskens, Rensenbrink and Rep for the Dutch .....what great teams they both were

Seeing all those Brazilian AND Argentinians sulk on their own territory would be absolutely priceless



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Argentina will certainly be one of the finalist.
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clapton bluenose
Jul 7 2014, 06:09 PM
Argentina will certainly be one of the finalist.
For 3rd?
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Kyle-KRO
Jul 7 2014, 07:42 PM
clapton bluenose
Jul 7 2014, 06:09 PM
Argentina will certainly be one of the finalist.
For 3rd?
LOL

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pooley
Jul 6 2014, 05:37 PM
Seen a lot of people praising Costa Rica, and yes they played well, but much like the Belgium / USA game the best team won, and I can't go in for this sentimentality of the underdog did well to compete. It's a results business and in both games the cream rose to the top

From great group games it has been disappointing to see the lesser teams park the bus in these knock out stages. Costa Rica showed in the last few mins and a little in extra time that when they attacked they looked dangerous, and they had a chance to nick it at the end. Did they waste their opportunity being too defensive? They definitely had quality when they dared to show it.

Brave decision by Louis to bring on krul for the pens as a gk doesn't normally have pressure during a shoot out, the pressure is on the attacker, but by bringing krul on as some sort of penalty expert all the pressure was on tim and he pulled through. Was that a master stroke by Louis or pure luck?

Either way fair play to Costa Rica for not giving up but next time have a go and show the ability you have to the world as well as the desire.

As for holland, they can do the pretty stuff along with the ugly side of things - confident for them to go all the way
IMHO Kruhls behaviour towards the penalty takers was completely out of order. It was only a master stroke by van Gaal because they obviously wound him up on the bench to do that before he came on. The ref should have sent him off for what he did, and I've got no love for the Argies, but I was chuffed when the Dutch got beat. :dancer: Somebody asked in another thread if Neymar's run-up was illegal, well I would have thought that a goalkeeper standing in front of a penalty taker, waving his hands in his face and giving him verbals is more so than that. Shocking behaviour, but the ref should have done something about it.
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Jul 11 2014, 02:11 AM
IMHO Kruhls behaviour towards the penalty takers was completely out of order. It was only a master stroke by van Gaal because they obviously wound him up on the bench to do that before he came on. The ref should have sent him off for what he did, and I've got no love for the Argies, but I was chuffed when the Dutch got beat. :dancer: Somebody asked in another thread if Neymar's run-up was illegal, well I would have thought that a goalkeeper standing in front of a penalty taker, waving his hands in his face and giving him verbals is more so than that. Shocking behaviour, but the ref should have done something about it.
I know what you mean but we've seen that kind of stuff many times before

I'm pretty sure Bruce Grobelaar of Liverpool used to get up to those 'mind games' before shoot outs way back in the 80's

But what could the ref really do ? .......they'd already subbed the goalkeeper and Van Gaal and his staff probably knew there was no chance he'd get a red card with such a vital game decider about to commence


You're right though, the refs have been weak in this competition....none more than the one who was in charge of Brazil v Columbia

I asked about Neymar's penalties.....as far as I know the run up to the ball is supposed to be uninterrupted with no shuffling, pausing or feinting.....when a player does that he should be made to take it again if he scores ...IMO





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Jul 11 2014, 02:27 AM
bluetube
Jul 11 2014, 02:11 AM
IMHO Kruhls behaviour towards the penalty takers was completely out of order. It was only a master stroke by van Gaal because they obviously wound him up on the bench to do that before he came on. The ref should have sent him off for what he did, and I've got no love for the Argies, but I was chuffed when the Dutch got beat. :dancer: Somebody asked in another thread if Neymar's run-up was illegal, well I would have thought that a goalkeeper standing in front of a penalty taker, waving his hands in his face and giving him verbals is more so than that. Shocking behaviour, but the ref should have done something about it.
I know what you mean but we've seen that kind of stuff many times before

I'm pretty sure Bruce Grobelaar of Liverpool used to get up to those 'mind games' before shoot outs way back in the 80's

But what could the ref really do ? .......they'd already subbed the goalkeeper and Van Gaal and his staff probably knew there was no chance he'd get a red card with such a vital game decider about to commence


You're right though, the refs have been weak in this competition....none more than the one who was in charge of Brazil v Columbia

I asked about Neymar's penalties.....as far as I know the run up to the ball is supposed to be uninterrupted with no shuffling, pausing or feinting.....when a player does that he should be made to take it again if he scores ...IMO





You're right about Grobelaar, no one was better than him at it, but at least he used to stay on his line, Kruhl was pacing around his area before getting right in everyones face. The ref did have a word once with him, but he still did it with the remaining players. PS I also agree about the run up.
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OK folks, it's time to put aside what you all THINK is right or wrong about run-ups, here's FIFAs OFFICIAL statement:

"Feinting in the run-up to take a penalty kick to confuse opponents is permitted
as part of football. However, feinting to kick the ball once the player has
completed his run-up is considered an infringement of Law 14 and an act of
unsporting behaviour for which the player must be cautioned."

http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/worldfootball/clubfootball/01/37/04/30/interpretation_law14_en.pdf
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