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Season Ticket Holders Opinions Wanted; reduced prices
Topic Started: Sep 25 2006, 03:23 PM (948 Views)
jassyblue80
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I know this is a topic in polls, but I want as many peoples opinions as possible as i will be contacting the club, with suggestions etc so could this please be left here?

Thank you

if possible could only season ticket holders vote etc as I am trying to get a set of results together cheers **thumbup
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i have no problem with the club offering reduced admission.I just want the atmosphere back,but if those coming in swell the numbers of the moaners then i would rather have empty seats.
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Sep 25 2006, 03:27 PM
i have no problem with the club offering reduced admission.I just want the atmosphere back,but if those coming in swell the numbers of the moaners then i would rather have empty seats.

catch 22

the atmosphere is cr @p at moment most of the time... I think filling the ground should be a priority of the boards (promotion is SB's) and then we can once again be the "12th man"
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cmacatini
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£30 v Leicester is barmy.

Make it £10-£20, and we'll see the difference.

I'm a season ticket holder and more than happy to see match day prices reduced with no come back to myself just to see us in front of a decent crowd again
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If they want to reduce prices thats fine but not until my ST money has been recalculated and refunded.

Harsh it may seem but my thinking is I paid upfront and reducing the prices is using my money to subsidise a few people to see a game.

And as i have said before our gates now are not 10,000 down. they are probably on a par with what they would have been if we has not gained promotion to the prem.
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jassyblue80
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Willie
Sep 25 2006, 05:44 PM
If they want to reduce prices thats fine but not until my ST money has been recalculated and refunded.

Harsh it may seem but my thinking is I paid upfront and reducing the prices is using my money to subsidise a few people to see a game.

And as i have said before our gates now are not 10,000 down. they are probably on a par with what they would have been if we has not gained promotion to the prem.

I don't think a refund would be available, I think it would be more like reductions etc for the future

If we hadn't got promotion when we did I think we would have seen fewer and fewer people attending games, which is a shame... however this may not have been the case as we may have been paying a lot less?? who knows?

all i know is that I want fortress st andrews back!!
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jassyblue80
Sep 25 2006, 09:01 PM
Willie
Sep 25 2006, 05:44 PM
If they want to reduce prices thats fine but not until my ST money has been recalculated and refunded.

Harsh it may seem but my thinking is I paid upfront and reducing the prices is  using my money to subsidise a few people to see a game.

And as i have said before our gates now are not 10,000 down. they are probably on a par with what they would have been if we has not gained promotion to the prem.

I don't think a refund would be available, I think it would be more like reductions etc for the future

If we hadn't got promotion when we did I think we would have seen fewer and fewer people attending games, which is a shame... however this may not have been the case as we may have been paying a lot less?? who knows?

all i know is that I want fortress st andrews back!!

Jassy your sentiment is a credit, but in reality the term fortess St Andrews was only aplicable to the big games. and i am sure if you cast your mind back you will see i am right. ;)

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franscar
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I don't see why slashing the prices for those who decided they didn't want to go at the start of the season will suddenly increase the volume in the ground.
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chilternblue
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If the prices were dropped to around £14-£18 i might think about it. Shelling out £29 for a match against leicester is a joke really. What are you getting for your £29 quid. You could have a round at a decent golf course for that, 2 or 3 dvds, so on and so on. Are you really getting value for your money. Judging by the way they are playing i think not.
The loyalty argument is a load of tosh as well. When have Blues ever been loyal to the fan? They didn't come and see me when i was bad.
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Sep 26 2006, 05:14 AM
If the prices were dropped to around £14-£18 i might think about it. Shelling out £29 for a match against leicester is a joke really. What are you getting for your £29 quid. You could have a round at a decent golf course for that, 2 or 3 dvds, so on and so on. Are you really getting value for your money. Judging by the way they are playing i think not.
The loyalty argument is a load of tosh as well. When have Blues ever been loyal to the fan? They didn't come and see me when i was bad.

While I agree that £29 is a lot in comparison to some other clubs for this level of football I think you've hit the nail on the head when you compare going to support your team to other leisure activities such as golf, DVDs etc.
The point is that the "real" fan - not knocking you - doesn't see going to St Andrews as an either/or situation. You go because you can't not go! You prioritise and good luck if you prefer a game of golf, it's your choice.
I think this attitude shows why we have gates of below 20,000 and supports the idea that the extra 8 - 9,000 were mainly made up of Premiership groupies. I accept that in that figure there were quite a few like chilternblue who honestly want to go but choose not to because of the pricing policy (which I agree is totally wrong but as I say above, I can't not go!)
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jassyblue80
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Sep 26 2006, 05:14 AM
If the prices were dropped to around £14-£18 i might think about it. Shelling out £29 for a match against leicester is a joke really. What are you getting for your £29 quid. You could have a round at a decent golf course for that, 2 or 3 dvds, so on and so on. Are you really getting value for your money. Judging by the way they are playing i think not.
The loyalty argument is a load of tosh as well. When have Blues ever been loyal to the fan? They didn't come and see me when i was bad.

£14-18 is just not realistic for a football club to run on! at £20 we would be pushing it!!

@ willie - I know what your saying but I am trying to offer a life line to those that did just turn up for big games... trying to keep those who may come down if it was a bit cheaper...

the fortress st andrews was alive and kicking for most of our first season in the prem... I agree that before that it was mainly cup games and "big" games... I just think the fans need to do their bit ;)
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£30 is too much, £25 would be fairer but the decision has already been made, it would be unfair to change it now. I think the board have done the maths and if the price was dropped I doubt the attendance would rise enough to compensate for the lower entrance fee.

I agree with Willie, I don't think our gates are down. Coupled with fewer away fans, those that only started coming when we were promoted have now found a reason not to come and that hasn't surprised me one bit.



The only part I can't understand is that the season tickets are different prices depending on where you sit, yet pay on the day prices are all the same.
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jueyblue27
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I feel very lucky that I can afford to buy a season ticket for myself and my son.
The benefits are that I don't have the hassle of having to buy tickets throughout the season, I always sit in the same good seats and get to know the other ST holders around me with whom I have good banter.

However, I am aware that there are many fans, not as fortunate as myself who cannot afford a ST and can only afford to go to cut price matches.
I believe it's crucial to have these matches for the benefit of those fans and their children - the future of our club.

All businesses, football or otherwise hold promotions to bolster their income and future strength.
Furthermore I know quite a few fans who have gone to the odd cheap game, got the 'bug' and ended up buying a ST.

I have no problem with the current situation.
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chilternblue
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Sep 26 2006, 06:50 AM
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Sep 26 2006, 05:14 AM
If the prices were dropped to around £14-£18 i might think about it. Shelling out £29 for a match against leicester is a joke really. What are you getting for your £29 quid. You could have a round at a decent golf course for that, 2 or 3 dvds, so on and so on. Are you really getting value for your money. Judging by the way they are playing i think not.
The loyalty argument is a load of tosh as well. When have Blues ever been loyal to the fan? They didn't come and see me when i was bad.

While I agree that £29 is a lot in comparison to some other clubs for this level of football I think you've hit the nail on the head when you compare going to support your team to other leisure activities such as golf, DVDs etc.
The point is that the "real" fan - not knocking you - doesn't see going to St Andrews as an either/or situation. You go because you can't not go! You prioritise and good luck if you prefer a game of golf, it's your choice.
I think this attitude shows why we have gates of below 20,000 and supports the idea that the extra 8 - 9,000 were mainly made up of Premiership groupies. I accept that in that figure there were quite a few like chilternblue who honestly want to go but choose not to because of the pricing policy (which I agree is totally wrong but as I say above, I can't not go!)
:( **thumbup

I appreciate your comments but I was there with my season ticket in the old 3rd division. I even used to fly back from France to watch them when I was living on the continent. I choose not to go at the moment because I have grown increasingly fed up with the quality of the current teams performances. Although the cost is not an issue with me I feel aggrieved to be subsidising the players and management at this football club at the moment. I suppose the last 2 seasons have finally wore me down.
What are the Premiership groupies as you put it, missing out on in this division though? These people will only come if the side is doing well and choose not to go if the side is poor. I see nothing wrong in this as its up to the club to ensure that there product is good enough to warrant £29. At the moment it isn't.
I hate to say it but viler have played there trump card by getting in O’Neil. All of a sudden they look like a different proposition altogether. Surely this is the way our board should be heading.
If they were to appoint Alan Curbishley, install an old trafford type pa system, install a decent electronic scoreboard and improve the half time entertainment. I know for sure that the Blues I know and love would be back in business and there would be 30016 to prove it.


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chilternblue
Sep 26 2006, 12:35 PM
greydog
Sep 26 2006, 06:50 AM
chilternblue
Sep 26 2006, 05:14 AM
If the prices were dropped to around £14-£18 i might think about it. Shelling out £29 for a match against leicester is a joke really. What are you getting for your £29 quid. You could have a round at a decent golf course for that, 2 or 3 dvds, so on and so on. Are you really getting value for your money. Judging by the way they are playing i think not.
The loyalty argument is a load of tosh as well. When have Blues ever been loyal to the fan? They didn't come and see me when i was bad.

While I agree that £29 is a lot in comparison to some other clubs for this level of football I think you've hit the nail on the head when you compare going to support your team to other leisure activities such as golf, DVDs etc.
The point is that the "real" fan - not knocking you - doesn't see going to St Andrews as an either/or situation. You go because you can't not go! You prioritise and good luck if you prefer a game of golf, it's your choice.
I think this attitude shows why we have gates of below 20,000 and supports the idea that the extra 8 - 9,000 were mainly made up of Premiership groupies. I accept that in that figure there were quite a few like chilternblue who honestly want to go but choose not to because of the pricing policy (which I agree is totally wrong but as I say above, I can't not go!)
:( **thumbup

I appreciate your comments but I was there with my season ticket in the old 3rd division. I even used to fly back from France to watch them when I was living on the continent. I choose not to go at the moment because I have grown increasingly fed up with the quality of the current teams performances. Although the cost is not an issue with me I feel aggrieved to be subsidising the players and management at this football club at the moment. I suppose the last 2 seasons have finally wore me down.
What are the Premiership groupies as you put it, missing out on in this division though? These people will only come if the side is doing well and choose not to go if the side is poor. I see nothing wrong in this as its up to the club to ensure that there product is good enough to warrant £29. At the moment it isn't.
I hate to say it but viler have played there trump card by getting in O’Neil. All of a sudden they look like a different proposition altogether. Surely this is the way our board should be heading.
If they were to appoint Alan Curbishley, install an old trafford type pa system, install a decent electronic scoreboard and improve the half time entertainment. I know for sure that the Blues I know and love would be back in business and there would be 30016 to prove it.

I agree a change of manager could inspire, but a new Pa system, scoreboard and halftime entertainment won't inspire anyone of thousands not attending matches to return IMO.
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Sep 25 2006, 05:44 PM
If they want to reduce prices thats fine but not until my ST money has been recalculated and refunded.

Harsh it may seem but my thinking is I paid upfront and reducing the prices is  using my money to subsidise a few people to see a game.

And as i have said before our gates now are not 10,000 down. they are probably on a par with what they would have been if we has not gained promotion to the prem.

The point is Willie, it isn't beyond the realms of possibility that they could admit they made a mistake and got it wrong, and do what you ask . I had a quick stab at the financial calculations in my other post, and i honestly feel that in the long run. they would be better off refunding the difference to people and getting the price down to a flat £20 per game !
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This thread is nonsense. Why would the board give people money back to something they've already agreed to?
Reducing the ticket prices would not significantly improve the attendances.
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Sep 25 2006, 05:11 PM
£30 v Leicester is barmy.

Make it £10-£20, and we'll see the difference.

I'm a season ticket holder and more than happy to see match day prices reduced with no come back to myself just to see us in front of a decent crowd again

Spot on-£30 to watch 'kin Leicester wtf** I'm an ex season ticket holder-1st time in many years and was considering taking the family down this sat-cost for 2 adults and 2 kids is an astonishing £90!! Before refreshments etc!! Well i'm sorry but blues can whistle for that sort of money-to see the superstars of Man U/Arsenal/Chelsea etc -yes I would pay it-but those days were relinquished following last season's pathetic attempt at survival-and the prices should,ve been reduced in accordance with the club's failure.

I will pay top prices for top entertainment in any walk of life but I'm sorry but Leicester at home in a second rate league competition does not represesnt top entertainment!

£20 adults £10 kids would be about right.
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Sep 26 2006, 01:12 PM
This thread is nonsense. Why would the board give people money back to something they've already agreed to?
Reducing the ticket prices would not significantly improve the attendances.

I'm not suggesting money back, I am suggesting a reduced rate for match by match tickets, and to ensure that season ticket holders continue to get the best deal, a reduction on next years prices! that isn't nonsense its called rewarding your loyal customers, which a lot of businesses do ;)
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Better still, raise the prices by £5 to fund Bruce' s pay-off. ;)
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Sep 26 2006, 02:28 PM
Better still, raise the prices by £5 to fund Bruce' s pay-off. ;)

Great Shout **thumbup I'll pay an extra £5 bob on top
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Absolutely not, I'm struggling to pay off the cost of my season ticket.
I had to buy it on a credit card and then transfer the balance to a low interest card. I've just bought a house and finances are tight so the expenditure was massive for me, I almost didn't renew but in the end I wanted to.

I don't see why other people who didn't want to renew or couldn't afford to pay it should get a reduction when I didn't get one and can't exaclty afford to be throwing around £500 here and there!

Unless I get a refund for every game that is reduced to a price below what I paid per game with my season ticket I'll not be happy.

You wouldn't make the atmosphere better either, you'd get a load of fans back who only ever went to see premiership football, who'll moan like f*ck that we aren't playing like brazil.
And you'll still get cr@p gates at home to southend et al, no matter what the prices.
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Sep 25 2006, 06:44 PM
If they want to reduce prices thats fine but not until my ST money has been recalculated and refunded.

Harsh it may seem but my thinking is I paid upfront and reducing the prices is using my money to subsidise a few people to see a game.

And as i have said before our gates now are not 10,000 down. they are probably on a par with what they would have been if we has not gained promotion to the prem.

Sorry Jass, i am with willie on this one, i paid my money and would be very disillusioned should anyone else get tickets cheaper than me and the missus, we work hard tosave to afford our season tickets, this would be a massive kick in the teeth for ST holders


sorry mate :(
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Sep 26 2006, 03:16 PM
Willie
Sep 25 2006, 06:44 PM
If they want to reduce prices thats fine but not until my ST money has been recalculated and refunded.

Harsh it may seem but my thinking is I paid upfront and reducing the prices is  using my money to subsidise a few people to see a game.

And as i have said before our gates now are not 10,000 down. they are probably on a par with what they would have been if we has not gained promotion to the prem.

Sorry Jass, i am with willie on this one, i paid my money and would be very disillusioned should anyone else get tickets cheaper than me and the missus, we work hard tosave to afford our season tickets, this would be a massive kick in the teeth for ST holders


sorry mate :(

no probs mate thats the point of gauging peoples opinions, there aint no right or wrong... (only those who disagree with me are wrong :P )

whilst i agree that we save or pay (credit card for me) all year round, my suggstion would be a few cup games and a reduction in next years prices? I know it would still be hard to swollow but in the long run it may benifit the club we love!!

anyway this is all just a suggestion that I have put to the club... I doubt they will follow it up ;)
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jassyblue80
Sep 26 2006, 04:21 PM
garrybaldy
Sep 26 2006, 03:16 PM
Willie
Sep 25 2006, 06:44 PM
If they want to reduce prices thats fine but not until my ST money has been recalculated and refunded.

Harsh it may seem but my thinking is I paid upfront and reducing the prices is  using my money to subsidise a few people to see a game.

And as i have said before our gates now are not 10,000 down. they are probably on a par with what they would have been if we has not gained promotion to the prem.

Sorry Jass, i am with willie on this one, i paid my money and would be very disillusioned should anyone else get tickets cheaper than me and the missus, we work hard tosave to afford our season tickets, this would be a massive kick in the teeth for ST holders


sorry mate :(

no probs mate thats the point of gauging peoples opinions, there aint no right or wrong... (only those who disagree with me are wrong :P )

whilst i agree that we save or pay (credit card for me) all year round, my suggstion would be a few cup games and a reduction in next years prices? I know it would still be hard to swollow but in the long run it may benifit the club we love!!

anyway this is all just a suggestion that I have put to the club... I doubt they will follow it up ;)

I will already get my 20% reduction as will you, that is reward enough for me, just hope i pay for premiership ST,s next year :lol:.FOOTNOTE- I do think what you are trying to do is admirable though **thumbup
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