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Had Enough Of Bruce Out, Get A Life; he's not going ANYWHERE so get over it
Topic Started: Sep 29 2006, 11:03 PM (1,682 Views)
Intruder
Martin Grainger
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zambo
Oct 1 2006, 06:09 PM
The standard of reffing continues to go down the bog imo. There were some woeful decisions yesterday made in the Premiership. Felt sorry in particular for the Liverpool keeper.

People are calling for the head of Bruce, but what about Keith Hackett. He is ultimately responsible for the standard of refereeing in this country, and it's absolutely appalling still

perhaps the standard of refereering merely reflects the standard of football now?

Steve Bennett has never done well at St Andrews and has always been a poor referee who means well.
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Intruder
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Oct 1 2006, 06:05 PM

Only hope you're right Intruder
Monday would have been better......gives us an extra day to negotiate with with 'Curbs'


A Tuesday decision will also give SB an extra 24 hours to make the 'right' decision (and an extra 24hours for the board to see if Curbs or another (Dave Penney?) will come before 'removing' SB?
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walker2831
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Sep 30 2006, 05:33 AM
so you want to stop bruce out threads ,
so you start yet another thread on the subject for people to make their point,
is that not defeating your objective.

how about stop making other threads talking about other subjects into bruce out threads!!

BORED!
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Intruder
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zambo
Oct 1 2006, 06:02 PM
Intruder
Oct 1 2006, 06:56 PM
Steve Bruce will be gone Tuesday, after the board has it's weekly get together.

Dream on Intruder

Spurs beat Pompey, my dreams are starting to come true!
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walker2831
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Sep 30 2006, 08:56 AM
bluenose54
Sep 30 2006, 08:32 AM
Why sould use anti Bruce 'fans' have to keep quite ... we ALL support BCFC but do NOT have to 'back' this or any manager who we feel is not doing a good job.
BCFC will be there a lot longer than Bruce or any other manager.  :P

How can you call yourself a supporter of BCFC after your quote yesterday.

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Hope we LOSE to get BRUCE OUT !!!!!!! thumbup.gif

lost all respect for your comments
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Wisel
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valleyblue
Oct 1 2006, 05:20 PM
Wisel
Oct 1 2006, 01:40 PM
But why are we still 3 or so weeks away from our best performances???? Just my opinion, just how I feel it is going.

At the start of the season the story was there's a lot of new players they need time to gel (how I hate that phrase) well we're now 9 weeks in to the season. Other sides have settled down (I have to refer you to Cardiff) so why not Blues? Cardiff had the heart of the team they have now, we have changed 80% of our team

If you refer me to the injuries your harking back to the same reasons as last year you can't keep on complaining about bad luck with injuries. I didn't mewntion injuries, did I.

Wisel I've just checked on the Cardiff 16 from yesterday 75% were not with the club this time last year. 4 were there last all last season 2 signed in January and the rest signed in the close season. That is pretty much the same squad they've used all season.

80% settled squad? - Nope just a fresh as ours.

I think the difference is that we have changed our playing team by 90% ish and Cardiff have added to the squad list.
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zambo
Oct 1 2006, 06:54 PM
Wisel
Sep 30 2006, 09:01 PM
Here's another, right up your street. What did you think of the referee today?


I thought that it was a typical Gordon Bennett performance

ps why are you typing in claret?

I'm not. lol It must be you seeing in Claret. I always had my suspicions.


A bit of a non commital version of the ref's performance.
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zambo
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Wisel
Oct 2 2006, 09:36 AM
zambo
Oct 1 2006, 06:54 PM
Wisel
Sep 30 2006, 09:01 PM
Here's another, right up your street. What did you think of the referee today?


I thought that it was a typical Gordon Bennett performance

ps why are you typing in claret?

I'm not. lol It must be you seeing in Claret. I always had my suspicions.


A bit of a non commital version of the ref's performance.

I see that it is supposed to be purple, bit looks claret on my pc. As for Bennet, he is as bad as most of the rest.

ps also felt sorry for 'arry yesterday at Spurs, the penalty given against Portsmouth was another dire decision. More and more people are calling for technology to be used, but that will just mask the awful state of refereeing imo.
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RagsMahone
Martin Grainger
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Wisel, I'm confused ..........

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
Jaidi
Kelly
Larsson
Nafti
Muamba
McSheff
DJC
Bendy

Out of Saturday's starting line up

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
DJC

all played at the club last year (Nafti i'll give you the benefit of the doubt due to last year's injury)

7 new players (including Nafti) out of 11 is 64%

How did you arrive at 90% ?

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Carbs
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Oct 1 2006, 06:05 PM
Intruder
Oct 1 2006, 05:56 PM
Steve Bruce will be gone Tuesday, after the board has it's weekly get together.

Only hope you're right Intruder
Monday would have been better......gives us an extra day to negotiate with with 'Curbs'

I've read the general opinions of Blues fans on a lot of these threads since the end of the Leicester game and I'm convinced more than 80 per cent of fans would like to see Mr Bruce now shown the door and find a man with new ideas and the tactical nous..........Without doubt and also considering he was a very popular player here for 4 years Mr Curbishley fits the bill perfectly

KRO

Curbs wasn't that popular, was he? I was only a youngster when I saw him play but the impression I got from other Blues fans during the games was that he was a 'luxury' kind of player and was often berated for being so.

Brucio will be gone I would have thought over the next few months or so, it seems inevitable rather like our relegation last season. I am not particularly convinced of Curbs though, he always comes across as a bit dour.

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bornblues64
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Wisel
Oct 1 2006, 08:20 AM
You lot go into vehement defence of your own positions so quickly and so loudly that it seems you feel your position is weak. If you didn't see the handball taht the ref missed that lead directly to the goal, and that the handball followed one of the most blatant wrestlings to the floor of our player I have seen, if you undertand why their keeper was still on the pitch after he profeeesionally took out our player as last man, if you think the referee had a good game yesterday, if you think that I am making excuses for losing three points...........then I see no reason trying to debate things further with you. We obviously see totally different things.

Just one last attempt.............I think we played reasonable attacking football yesterday, I do not think we are near our best performances yet (probably three or so weeks away from that blend), we would have won the game yesetrday, even though bery unconvincingly, if it weren't for one two direct mistakes by the referee in specifically missing two fouls in the move that lead to the goal. 1-0 to Blues would have been a fair outcome, we dominated the game, they has two shots on goal.

But again if you are determined that Bruce will fail and see and report everything so that you justify your position then the debate is over isn't it? If that clouds your judgement so much, then I really do fear for the future of BCFC, we seem to have so many people who whould prefer to see Blues fail just so they protect their reputations. It will happen again with the next manager or another player on and on and on.

But thats the whole point i dont think any of us WANT to see Bruce fail----- its just that he HAS failed. Full stop
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zambo
Oct 2 2006, 10:32 AM
Wisel
Oct 2 2006, 09:36 AM
zambo
Oct 1 2006, 06:54 PM
Wisel
Sep 30 2006, 09:01 PM
Here's another, right up your street. What did you think of the referee today?


I thought that it was a typical Gordon Bennett performance

ps why are you typing in claret?

I'm not. lol It must be you seeing in Claret. I always had my suspicions.


A bit of a non commital version of the ref's performance.

I see that it is supposed to be purple, bit looks claret on my pc. As for Bennet, he is as bad as most of the rest.

ps also felt sorry for 'arry yesterday at Spurs, the penalty given against Portsmouth was another dire decision. More and more people are calling for technology to be used, but that will just mask the awful state of refereeing imo.

Why do you think it's so bad?
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Wisel
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RagsMahone
Oct 2 2006, 10:56 AM
Wisel, I'm confused ..........

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
Jaidi
Kelly
Larsson
Nafti
Muamba
McSheff
DJC
Bendy

Out of Saturday's starting line up

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
DJC

all played at the club last year (Nafti i'll give you the benefit of the doubt due to last year's injury)

7 new players (including Nafti) out of 11 is 64%

How did you arrive at 90% ?

I would see only Taylor and Tebs as establushed first team players, and even Tebs is an in and out player. I have to say my %ge was not accurately worked out. But you get the drift don't you. Cardiff were topping up a pretty successful Championship squad from last term, we were almost starting over.
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Wisel
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bornblues64
Oct 2 2006, 11:29 AM
Wisel
Oct 1 2006, 08:20 AM
You lot go into vehement defence of your own positions so quickly and so loudly that it seems you feel your position is weak. If you didn't see the handball taht the ref missed that lead directly to the goal, and that the handball followed one of the most blatant wrestlings to the floor of our player I have seen, if you undertand why their keeper was still on the pitch after he profeeesionally took out our player as last man, if you think the referee had a good game yesterday, if you think that I am making excuses for losing three points...........then I see no reason trying to debate things further with you. We obviously see totally different things.

Just one last attempt.............I think we played reasonable attacking football yesterday, I do not think we are near our best performances yet (probably three or so weeks away from that blend), we would have won the game yesetrday, even though bery unconvincingly, if it weren't for one two direct mistakes by the referee in specifically missing two fouls in the move that lead to the goal. 1-0 to Blues would have been a fair outcome, we dominated the game, they has two shots on goal.

But again if you are determined that Bruce will fail and see and report everything so that you justify your position then the debate is over isn't it? If that clouds your judgement so much, then I really do fear for the future of BCFC, we seem to have so many people who whould prefer to see Blues fail just so they protect their reputations. It will happen again with the next manager or another player on and on and on.

But thats the whole point i dont think any of us WANT to see Bruce fail----- its just that he HAS failed. Full stop

Not by any measure that has any rationality at all has Bruce failed.
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StAndrews4Eva
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You know its threads like these that are the reason why myself and a lot of other posters have simply given up on Blues chat.

Its just like groundhog day. The same people are regurgitating the same old cr@p day in and day out - that goes for the 'pro' and the 'anti' brigade.

Thats another thing that bugs me as well, why the need to split into two camps? Afterall aren't we all blues fans who want the best for this club? Yes we might all have differing opinions of how to get the best for this club but we have the same aim in common.

I suggest we start with expecting that other people have an opinion that may be differnt to your own. They also have the right to vocalise their opinion on whatever stage they want to.

Now the next step might prove a little more difficult for some of you. This actually involves intellectual and reasoned debate. Returning someone elses point with a constructive view point and not mindless name calling.

As a slight side issue if someone has a criticism to make about one of the players then feel free to post it - as long as it is a constructive criticism. Dont just post 'so and so is rubbish and should be sold'. Actually explain your reasons, how you came to the conclusion and what you think that player could do moving forward to improve.

Its not rocket science and up until about 12 months ago, this forum used to be like that. Lets all try and stick to these basics and see if the quality of posts can return to what we used to have.
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Now the next step might prove a little more difficult for some of you. This actually involves intellectual and reasoned debate. Returning someone elses point with a constructive view point and not mindless name call

i cant see it catching on standys, good post and spot on **thumbup
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spot on sa4e - how boring is it? people should be begging you, me, the doc, the bear etc to hijack these threads they serve no useful purpose whatsoever ffs!!
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proccysotv
Oct 2 2006, 03:05 PM
spot on sa4e - how boring is it? people should be begging you, me, the doc, the bear etc to hijack these threads they serve no useful purpose whatsoever ffs!!

**thumbup

just like we did with IF and GET RID. :D
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Wisel
Oct 2 2006, 02:48 PM
bornblues64
Oct 2 2006, 11:29 AM
Wisel
Oct 1 2006, 08:20 AM
You lot go into vehement defence of your own positions so quickly and so loudly that it seems you feel your position is weak. If you didn't see the handball taht the ref missed that lead directly to the goal, and that the handball followed one of the most blatant wrestlings to the floor of our player I have seen, if you undertand why their keeper was still on the pitch after he profeeesionally took out our player as last man, if you think the referee had a good game yesterday, if you think that I am making excuses for losing three points...........then I see no reason trying to debate things further with you. We obviously see totally different things.

Just one last attempt.............I think we played reasonable attacking football yesterday, I do not think we are near our best performances yet (probably three or so weeks away from that blend), we would have won the game yesetrday, even though bery unconvincingly, if it weren't for one two direct mistakes by the referee in specifically missing two fouls in the move that lead to the goal. 1-0 to Blues would have been a fair outcome, we dominated the game, they has two shots on goal.

But again if you are determined that Bruce will fail and see and report everything so that you justify your position then the debate is over isn't it? If that clouds your judgement so much, then I really do fear for the future of BCFC, we seem to have so many people who whould prefer to see Blues fail just so they protect their reputations. It will happen again with the next manager or another player on and on and on.

But thats the whole point i dont think any of us WANT to see Bruce fail----- its just that he HAS failed. Full stop

Not by any measure that has any rationality at all has Bruce failed.

So getting relegated having scored 28 league goals and getting thumped 7-0 at home in the FA Cup Quarter Final don't count as "rational" reasons for failure then?
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proccysotv
Oct 2 2006, 04:05 PM
spot on sa4e - how boring is it? people should be begging you, me, the doc, the bear etc to hijack these threads they serve no useful purpose whatsoever ffs!!

I think even the admins will be close to admitting that the hijacked threads were favourable to what is happening at the moment..

If i was a new member on this board who has just registered and didnt know what this place used to be like, i wouldnt even bother posting on here. The fact remains i know there still are some people who can engage in reasoned debate over the football club that means so much to them.
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StAndrews4Eva
Oct 2 2006, 04:08 PM
proccysotv
Oct 2 2006, 04:05 PM
spot on sa4e - how boring is it? people should be begging you, me, the doc, the bear etc to hijack these threads they serve no useful purpose whatsoever ffs!!

I think even the admins will be close to admitting that the hijacked threads were favourable to what is happening at the moment..

If i was a new member on this board who has just registered and didnt know what this place used to be like, i wouldnt even bother posting on here. The fact remains i know there still are some people who can engage in reasoned debate over the football club that means so much to them.

agree again - if i spend more than 10 minutes reading "blues chat" i feel like ordering prozac!!
now where's that voddy bottle... :drink:
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number8
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Wisel
Oct 2 2006, 02:48 PM
bornblues64
Oct 2 2006, 11:29 AM
Wisel
Oct 1 2006, 08:20 AM
You lot go into vehement defence of your own positions so quickly and so loudly that it seems you feel your position is weak. If you didn't see the handball taht the ref missed that lead directly to the goal, and that the handball followed one of the most blatant wrestlings to the floor of our player I have seen, if you undertand why their keeper was still on the pitch after he profeeesionally took out our player as last man, if you think the referee had a good game yesterday, if you think that I am making excuses for losing three points...........then I see no reason trying to debate things further with you. We obviously see totally different things.

Just one last attempt.............I think we played reasonable attacking football yesterday, I do not think we are near our best performances yet (probably three or so weeks away from that blend), we would have won the game yesetrday, even though bery unconvincingly, if it weren't for one two direct mistakes by the referee in specifically missing two fouls in the move that lead to the goal. 1-0 to Blues would have been a fair outcome, we dominated the game, they has two shots on goal.

But again if you are determined that Bruce will fail and see and report everything so that you justify your position then the debate is over isn't it? If that clouds your judgement so much, then I really do fear for the future of BCFC, we seem to have so many people who whould prefer to see Blues fail just so they protect their reputations. It will happen again with the next manager or another player on and on and on.

But thats the whole point i dont think any of us WANT to see Bruce fail----- its just that he HAS failed. Full stop

Not by any measure that has any rationality at all has Bruce failed.

well, I would say getting us relegated is failing pretty much - bit hard to put a positive spin on that surely?

please don't say it wasn't his fault either - if he got us up he took us down, its not him getting us up then bad luck sending us down.

for me, I don't expect us to win every game 5-0. For the squad we have, I do expect us to play better than we are, and I do expect us to go up. I think Brucie's shelf life is over and we need a fresh approach before we all get the deja vu again - i.e. last year everything was going to be fine, Steve will keep us up, don't panic etc etc - replace that for "we're second, still to gel, Steve will get us up" yadayada...



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bornblues64
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Wisel
Oct 2 2006, 02:48 PM
bornblues64
Oct 2 2006, 11:29 AM
Wisel
Oct 1 2006, 08:20 AM
You lot go into vehement defence of your own positions so quickly and so loudly that it seems you feel your position is weak. If you didn't see the handball taht the ref missed that lead directly to the goal, and that the handball followed one of the most blatant wrestlings to the floor of our player I have seen, if you undertand why their keeper was still on the pitch after he profeeesionally took out our player as last man, if you think the referee had a good game yesterday, if you think that I am making excuses for losing three points...........then I see no reason trying to debate things further with you. We obviously see totally different things.

Just one last attempt.............I think we played reasonable attacking football yesterday, I do not think we are near our best performances yet (probably three or so weeks away from that blend), we would have won the game yesetrday, even though bery unconvincingly, if it weren't for one two direct mistakes by the referee in specifically missing two fouls in the move that lead to the goal. 1-0 to Blues would have been a fair outcome, we dominated the game, they has two shots on goal.

But again if you are determined that Bruce will fail and see and report everything so that you justify your position then the debate is over isn't it? If that clouds your judgement so much, then I really do fear for the future of BCFC, we seem to have so many people who whould prefer to see Blues fail just so they protect their reputations. It will happen again with the next manager or another player on and on and on.

But thats the whole point i dont think any of us WANT to see Bruce fail----- its just that he HAS failed. Full stop

Not by any measure that has any rationality at all has Bruce failed.

so now he is a success?????????????????????????????????'
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WythallBlue
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Oct 2 2006, 02:47 PM
RagsMahone
Oct 2 2006, 10:56 AM
Wisel, I'm confused ..........

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
Jaidi
Kelly
Larsson
Nafti
Muamba
McSheff
DJC
Bendy

Out of Saturday's starting line up

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
DJC

all played at the club last year (Nafti i'll give you the benefit of the doubt due to last year's injury)

7 new players (including Nafti) out of 11 is 64%

How did you arrive at 90% ?

I would see only Taylor and Tebs as establushed first team players, and even Tebs is an in and out player. I have to say my %ge was not accurately worked out. But you get the drift don't you. Cardiff were topping up a pretty successful Championship squad from last term, we were almost starting over.

Yeah-and then Cardiff had the added 'gift' of between £3-4m from us for their top forward............ And topped their squad up very nicely!

Consequently we STILL can't score goals whilst theyre doing it for fun and romping away with the league-how does that work then???!!!!! wtf**
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WythallBlue
Oct 3 2006, 12:44 PM
Wisel
Oct 2 2006, 02:47 PM
RagsMahone
Oct 2 2006, 10:56 AM
Wisel, I'm confused ..........

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
Jaidi
Kelly
Larsson
Nafti
Muamba
McSheff
DJC
Bendy

Out of Saturday's starting line up

Taylor
Sadler
Tebs
DJC

all played at the club last year (Nafti i'll give you the benefit of the doubt due to last year's injury)

7 new players (including Nafti) out of 11 is 64%

How did you arrive at 90% ?

I would see only Taylor and Tebs as establushed first team players, and even Tebs is an in and out player. I have to say my %ge was not accurately worked out. But you get the drift don't you. Cardiff were topping up a pretty successful Championship squad from last term, we were almost starting over.

Yeah-and then Cardiff had the added 'gift' of between £3-4m from us for their top forward............ And topped their squad up very nicely!

Consequently we STILL can't score goals whilst theyre doing it for fun and romping away with the league-how does that work then???!!!!! wtf**

Which point and whcih person would you like me to answer eh. I answered the point made. Your new point Wythall is something entirely different. If you make your point clearly and separately I will answer taht as well, but jumping on theback of someone else's arguament to make a cheap shop is not really worth a response.
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