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Tom Ross Is To Blame; Put the blame where it belongs
Topic Started: Oct 1 2006, 12:11 PM (1,242 Views)
Bluebottle_Flyer
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If you want to pin the blame on someone for Blues demise, look no further than Tom Ross.

He is as clueless as Bruce. His persistant brown-nosing to boost loyalty from local clubs to BRMB/Capital Gold is enough to make the strongest stomach throw up with excessive force.

He convinced himself and then pummelled 'negative' fans by telling them how Blues were going to escape the drop at the expense of high-flying Portsmouth. We didn't. Now he wants us all to be jumping for joy because we are 2nd in the table.

Ross knows nothing about football and shouldn't be ALLOWED to front our media representation as his coverage is biased.

He claims to not call for the head of managers but couldn't wait to stick the knife in when Glenn Hoddle, Sven-Goran Eriksson and David O'Leary failed.

Kenny Cunningham is right - Blues are like a stiff corpse. Sunderland may be below us in the table but the buzz around the place shows they can only go up from where they are. Near on 40,000 yesterday, 18,000 at St Andrews. Says a lot for our manager and our club as a whole.

The club needs a shake up. We need a new manager with a fresh approach, a board willing to back the manager with funds and unbiased media coverage - one which we can voice our opinions without being shouted down or belittled.

The revolution starts here.
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TJDIXI
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i wouldn't say that Ross is to blame but i agree with you on the boring cosyness that he has with SB. I've given up listening to his phone in and prefer to listen to WM instead. There not perfect but they do at least have an objective view on the situation.

We do need to refresh but i think that should have been done in the summer ready for the new season.

IMO and i guess the opinon of others SB should walk/be sacked and let someone come in that will excite the club again.

The most exciting thing i've got to look forward to next game is trying to beat my record for watching the whole game and getting home as early as possible because of the masses that are not there.
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david_kelly
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I agree, Dross stiffles debate. If you're not pro Bruce you don't get any real say.

I don't listen to him anymore. No doubt there he was yesterday at Stamford Bridge rubbing shoulders with the London journo's while people who had paid good money for the Leicester game were denied a platform to air their concerns.

Bruce out now!

David Kelly
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Blues4eva
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I agree, I used to really like Tom Ross, but his constant belittling of any fan who dares to ring him and say anything bad about Bruce is really annoying me now, he used to stick up for O'Dreary as well now he's sticking the knife into him with the vile fans and brown nosing with O'Neill, and I would put good money on him doing the same with Bruce if he were to go.
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It's another intriguing one.

If nobody listens to him, then he will be out of a job. Obviously this is what you people want, so stop listening? I know I certainly don't.
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Just don't listen to him then, this isn't China.
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Tom Ross often harps on about Sullivan and Gold having his programme taped so that they can listen to the views of fans.

Although he clearly gets on very well with Bruce and clearly wants him to stay, nobody can disguise the calls that come in calling for Bruce to be sacked. He may disagree with the callers, but the more that bombard him with the same view, the better, as then maybe then the Board will wake up to the strength of feeling and hopefully will act to end this depressing spiral that the Club is in.
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skipper22
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i think its a bit extreme to blame Tom Ross for blues demise but the guy is a total idiot! i go to most home games but i hate cant listen to the away ones anymore because that guy infuriates me.......... i cant understand why he commentates on blues games....he clearly knows nothing about the game
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After over two decades people are finally realising what this bloke is, and has been doing all this time :whistle:
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The problem with Tom Ross is that he tries to play the devils advocate but fails 100% he can't seperate hiself from his cosy relationships with managers and directors. He doesn't speak for the honest fan and should never be judged as so becauase he seems to live in blur tinted spec Birmingham.

I want my local radio presenter to host a debate and to balence the argument. I want him to be someone that can appreciate and see a point of view as that.

WM is far better if just slightly clumsy.
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You lot obviously don't listen with your ears open. Ross is entitled to his opinion as anyone else is. He welcomes the debate and always allows others to have a go back.

What gets up his nose is if anyone doesn't show full support for the team at the right time and if your a proper Bluenose you would agree with that sentiment totally.

If you don't like the programme don't listen to it. Turn on to Radio Wolves Midlands instead and you can join in with the Blues bashing crowd.

Ross Rocks!!!
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I general consensus of the thread is that those who have posted no longer listen.

Your right Tom Ross is entitled to an opinion but is the purpose of a 'phone in' to listen to Tom Ross opinion or supporter opinion? I would imagine the later as apposed to the former. I think if Tom Ross commentary was fine and the' phone in' was good then there would be less comment on how bad it is? would you agree?

So if we need to improve our listening skills you may want to read a thread first.
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Joe
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Tom Ross to blame then, not Bruce. hmmm
Does anybody actually put a tad of blame to the board for the fact we are back where we started? They get away so lightly from most fans.
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Bluebottle_Flyer
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Joe
Oct 1 2006, 06:29 PM
Tom Ross to blame then, not Bruce. hmmm
Does anybody actually put a tad of blame to the board for the fact we are back where we started? They get away so lightly from most fans.

Not with me they haven't.

However, this thread was dedicated to the self-proclaimed oracle of midlands football but if you wish, we can direct attention towards the board.

I have said many times that they, in my honest opinion, fail to back the manager with any serious financial clout.

It appears that any excessive spending that we have carried out in the recent past has been down to selling our better players and TV money - nothing to do with our millionaire owners.

I appreciate what they did for the club, but why they stay here is a mystery as the club appears to have no ambition at all.
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Joe
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Blimey, you have more sense that I credited you with.
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Tom Ross deserves a (small) share of the blame. He has used his position in the media to prop up support for a manager who should have been sacked long ago.

Having said that, I detected the first glimmer of criticism of sb in his after-match comments. About time too.
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To blame a radio presenter for blues troubles is crazy.

I do agree that he isnt a very good pundit and i think he would do well to follow other stations and have pundits on there answering the calls as well.

One of the best chat shows was the one on century fm for the east midlands. It had Garry Birtles and Kenny Burns, Roger Davies and Alan Birchenall. it gave decent debate for all the east midlands clubs but none of them were afraid to slate their clubs if they had to.

I also rate Gab Marcotti on talksport who also give s avery good analysis of football in general and gives the show real balance.


I guess in TR's defence he is creating a good show because people want to phone up and talk on it.

bn68
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Oct 1 2006, 08:57 PM
Having said that, I detected the first glimmer of criticism of sb in his after-match comments. About time too.

wtf** That's good news. He might know something we don't!
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I haven't listened to Tom Ross for ages. He gets right on my nerves. Always OTT.

It does make me laugh though, how on Earth can anyone turn criticising a radio pundit/ presenter into proving the manager should be sacked?

Ridiculous.
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I can't really see how Tom Ross is to blame, but must admit I find him very irritating to listen to of late.
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Oct 1 2006, 09:49 PM
I can't really see how Tom Ross is to blame

If he had been more objective/critical of sb then the board would have been under pressure to sack him before now
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franscar
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Surely the board wouldn't take any notice of a man who for a solid minute thought that a goal disallowed for offside had been given?
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boards often respond to fan pressure ... fans' opinions are influenced by the media... tom ross's show is the main football phone-in in the city... so TR's man-crush on SB has probably helped in a small way to keep him in a job...
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Tom Ross is to blame because he won't demand the board sack Bruce and our board listen to his show.

Some people think that if Tom Ross Jumped on the bandwagon, the board would listen and then they'd sack him.

So, sack Tom Ross. He's the only person the board listen to. He hasn't got a clue apparently but without his commentary they'd know even less.

TOM ROSS OUT

I'm boycotting BRMB from now on. I'm only going to listen to BRMB so I can be certain I no longer want to listen to it.
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Oct 1 2006, 12:11 PM
If you want to pin the blame on someone for Blues demise, look no further than Tom Ross.

He is as clueless as Bruce. His persistant brown-nosing to boost loyalty from local clubs to BRMB/Capital Gold is enough to make the strongest stomach throw up with excessive force.

He convinced himself and then pummelled 'negative' fans by telling them how Blues were going to escape the drop at the expense of high-flying Portsmouth. We didn't. Now he wants us all to be jumping for joy because we are 2nd in the table.

Ross knows nothing about football and shouldn't be ALLOWED to front our media representation as his coverage is biased.

He claims to not call for the head of managers but couldn't wait to stick the knife in when Glenn Hoddle, Sven-Goran Eriksson and David O'Leary failed.

Kenny Cunningham is right - Blues are like a stiff corpse. Sunderland may be below us in the table but the buzz around the place shows they can only go up from where they are. Near on 40,000 yesterday, 18,000 at St Andrews. Says a lot for our manager and our club as a whole.

The club needs a shake up. We need a new manager with a fresh approach, a board willing to back the manager with funds and unbiased media coverage - one which we can voice our opinions without being shouted down or belittled.

The revolution starts here.

:D :D :D

is this guy for real?! blaming our clubs failings on a radio presenter??
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