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"Fans Have Deserted Us"; bemoans David Sullivan
Topic Started: Nov 11 2006, 09:10 AM (1,457 Views)
beegeeblueboy
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Think of the reasons David:

1 Premiership future thrown away without a fight by the Board

2 Failing manager not replaced, for seemingly non-football reasons

3 Ripping fans off with Premiership prices for Championship football

4 ST holders disadvantaged against pay-per-game fans.

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Third rate catering facilities with no corrective action taken

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Internal running costs recharged to fans rather than absorbed i.e. credit card bookings; away travel.
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The_Bear
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I can add to that list
Shi'te build up music
constant sponsoring of stupid things
slagging off the fans in the program
untruths about the financal returns/sales/purchases of players
not listening to the fans
bad design of home kits and bad reproductions
trying to fleece fans at every given opportunity

Having said that I still go down and always will so I guess I am the biggest mug!
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nick_p
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Original article can be read here.

Like it or not, Mr Sullivan, but fans are voting with their feet. Perhaps it's because of the high prices, or perhaps it's because of the opening paragraph where you make it clear that fans have no say in the hiring and firing of managers.

Sadly my worst suspicions have been confirmed by reading that: the line between professional and personal relationship between the board and manager is too blurred to be healthy for this club.
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Willie
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Seems to me the commercial department needs a shake up.
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valleyblue
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I've already posted my disgust at Wednesdays performance and the reasons why I'll not be going again until SB is gone.

Nigh on 18hrs from leaving the house in the morning until getting home after the game only to hear it didn't really matter.

They could have said before and saved me a load of cash and hassle.

Well DS that's why I'll not be back (Unless of course I can get sponsored like just about everything else, but that's another issue)

I find his comments about how much he likes SB as a friend offensive. He's not considering BCFC just looking after a mate by keeping SB in charge. Does this mean he considers SB more important than the club?

Well I'd just like to thank SB for the teams efforts on Wednesday night..............Not!

After the debacle that was Liverpool last season I swore never to go to another game whilst SB was in charge. However with a scouser at work winding me up about last year I gave in and dragged him along with me.

So after leaving the house at 7:00a.m. working all day belting up the motorway, watching a game that was less entertaining than watching paint dry and finally getting back home after mid-night I find that according to SB the game didn't really matter.

It would have been nice to see the players put the same amount of effort in to playing the game as we did in getting to it. But of course the poor dabs can't be expected to do that.

At least Wednesday has done one thing for me. It's reinforced my opinion that with SB in charge mediocrity is the best we can expect. It's also taught me the valuable lesson that there's absolutely no point in wasting any more money whiulst SB is in charge.

Thanks Blues, Thanks SB, Thanks Board - From one now completely peed off supporter
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Sameth
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I think Sullivan should keep his mouth shut. If there was any doubt before hand of whether he was in it for the money; he has well and truly confirmed it.
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Willie
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Like it or not, Mr Sullivan, but fans are voting with their feet. Perhaps it's because of the high prices, or perhaps it's because of the opening paragraph where you make it clear that fans have no say in the hiring and firing of managers.


Nick maybe he was right when he said this

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"I know some of the supporters are not happy with the manager but some fans want to change managers every three months," Sullivan went on.



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The_Bear
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But its not every 3 months is it, its after 2 years of failure.
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spliffy
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for me its a cost v quality issue

i live in gloucester and i can go and see a prem rugby outfit (un beated at time of typing this) whos players give 100% every week,the team try to play in an attractive way,the club is so much more community based,local players are brought through,local kids are all scouted and anybody showing the slightest promise is snapped up and worked on.
the players dont fake injury and the snipers dont seem to stalk the rugby pitches like they do football pitches,a tackle is still permitted,i can have a pint while watching the game,the local police dont abuse my human rights by shoving a video camera in my face as i go about my lawful buisness,the players respect the ref,the players all talk to the supporters,the refs arnt biased,the replica kit is quality,the team shows "pride passion & commitment"(sound familiar)

ohh and the best bit,,£20 max !

i used to love football,but my love is dying fast the modern game is full of cheats,corruption,rigged games,over paid players.and the clubs are now businesses not sporting clubs,the mighty £ is the god modern football bows down to,,not sport any more

for me thats why !!
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I am going today as £15 is a realistic price to pay for Championship football. I wont be paying £30 to watch the Wolves game next week. There needs to be a review of the pricing structure for next season, with Season-ticket holders being properly looked after.

As for Perry Deakin and his commercial department, they need to listen to BLUES fans - If any of them in there know one :whistle:
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Willie
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I was just quoting what had been said Bear. I am not getting involved in the ins and outs.
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fatlad
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all Sully is doing is enraging the fans more by making inept comments like that on the Mirror, bottom line is that there are many disgruntled fans who wont pay premiership prices for fizzy pop league, food is rubbish and expensive, the music wtf** no logic to it, cuts out halfway through. No Atmosphere. man the list is endless :angry:
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Blues4ever
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Surely for gods sake theres enough people involved down at the Blues from the directors down to the commercial dept(which is useless imo, it needs sorting) why cant someone stand back and take a look at whats wrong..its not rocket science!
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nick_p
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Willie
Nov 11 2006, 09:38 AM
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Like it or not, Mr Sullivan, but fans are voting with their feet. Perhaps it's because of the high prices, or perhaps it's because of the opening paragraph where you make it clear that fans have no say in the hiring and firing of managers.


Nick maybe he was right when he said this

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"I know some of the supporters are not happy with the manager but some fans want to change managers every three months," Sullivan went on.

I'm sure there are fans of every football club who want the manager changed every three months, just as there are fans with blonde hair, dark hair, grey hair, white hair or red hair. There are fans who are convicted criminals, fans who dodge their taxes and fans who are die-hard Doctor Who fans.

The simple fact is, Steve Bruce did not face widespread calls for his removal until the Norwich City game, which was over two years after we started on this downward spiral from 5th in the Premiership with 11 games to go to that position in the Championship, 11 points off top spot and sitting outside the play-off places in ninth place.

I cannot think of another club that would have tolerated such a spectacular, and solid fall from grace - if anything the majority of Blues fans have been too tolerant, too patient and too loyal.

The board have chosen to side with the manager - and not for the right reasons in my opinion. Every single argument Sullivan makes in that interview can be picked apart, but this is my favourite: "You judge a manager when things are down, not when you are on a roll. The Norwich game was really appalling and Steve took a good hard look at things and admitted he had got it wrong."

If you judge a manager when things are going wrong, what the hell was Sullivan doing for all of last season?
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Left handed screwdriver
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for me it's a loyalty thing.

loyalty is a two way thing and when i feel i'm not appreciated i do one prity sharpish.

i dont hate the blues but i feel that the club as a whole only sees fans as £ signs but that could be said for lods of clubs.

there is'nt a community sperit at blues anymore.

i dont class my self as a supporter anymore, a fan yes, but do i support ? the answer is no.

i see no evidence of ambition and the heart has gone from the club.

DS should of treated the fans better instead of treating us like children and exspecting us to just do as we are told.


the quality for price is a big issue in many fans eyes.



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stevio11
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Sorry Mr Sullivan but you won't get my cash at the moment as I am skint but if I was not,I would have to think twice after some gutless performance's his season.If anyone thinks beating Derby and Plymouth 1-0 is good,go elsewhere please.Why is it we never put a good display in and seem to fluke a win.Todays game agansit Barnsley is the time to hit 4 or 5 agansit a no hope time and yes ,I have seen enough of championship football on TV this season.Other teams do it so why can't we,
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Bruce plays rubbish defensive football and always will,at home we should be looking to take the game and scoring goals.
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fatlad
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stevio11
Nov 11 2006, 10:07 AM
Sorry Mr Sullivan but you won't get my cash at the moment as I am skint but if I was not,I would have to think twice after some gutless performance's his season.If anyone thinks beating Derby and Plymouth 1-0 is good,go elsewhere please.Why is it we never put a good display in and seem to fluke a win.Todays game agansit Barnsley is the time to hit 4 or 5 agansit a no hope time and yes ,I have seen enough of championship football on TV this season.Other teams do it so why can't we,
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Bruce plays rubbish defensive football and always will,at home we should be looking to take the game and scoring goals.

have you noticed the goal difference between us and the other top teams?

ours does not look impresive! <_<
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Roger Jones
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The comments here are very true Mr Sullivan.

Fans will vote with their feet, so don't blame them but rather do something to make them come back!

The amount we have to pay to watch our Team far outweighs in percentage terms what you have invested in the Club. Now, I'm thrilled you came, and want to back you and the Board all the way, but after the last two year's performances (and the Norwich game effectively killed off my enthusiasm to come again), the Club have got to earn the right to have supporters buy tickets again.

Blues fans are the most loyal, stickable foks you'll ever see, but I think tehre are signs of enough being enough!

Take heed, Messrs Sullivan and Gold!

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DNK
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nick_p
Nov 11 2006, 10:01 AM
If you judge a manager when things are going wrong, what the hell was Sullivan doing for all of last season?

Concentrating on the New Stadium/Casino I reckon.
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Willie
Nov 11 2006, 09:38 AM
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Like it or not, Mr Sullivan, but fans are voting with their feet. Perhaps it's because of the high prices, or perhaps it's because of the opening paragraph where you make it clear that fans have no say in the hiring and firing of managers.


Nick maybe he was right when he said this

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"I know some of the supporters are not happy with the manager but some fans want to change managers every three months," Sullivan went on.

Your talking rot willie name a fan/s who want to change the manager every 3 months? Blues fans are more than loyal to managers than most clubs you care to mention.
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Willie
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Salad i am not talking Rot i posted what D Sullivan had said for gods sake i really do wonder sometimes about you lot. whinge whinge whinge
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Blue16
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the board are a disgrace dising there own fans
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Left handed screwdriver
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Blue16
Nov 11 2006, 10:34 AM
the board are a disgrace dising there own fans

your right mate .

they should realise that the fans are the club not them after all fans will be there way after they have gone and they should listen to them and also treat them with respect.
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Blue16
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Nov 11 2006, 10:39 AM
Blue16
Nov 11 2006, 10:34 AM
the board are a disgrace dising there own fans

your right mate .

they should realise that the fans are the club not them after all fans will be there way after they have gone and they should listen to them and also treat them with respect.

:applause: exactly
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beegeeblueboy
Nov 11 2006, 09:10 AM
Think of the reasons David


Third rate catering facilities with no corrective action taken



you honestly think that anybody who calls themselves a fan will stop away from a game because the hot dogs or pies are a bit ropey!! if that is a reason then they seriously need to take a look at why they go to the footie in the first place..absolutely ridiculous statement!!!

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