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A Question For Pro And Anti's Alike
Topic Started: Nov 13 2006, 10:25 PM (329 Views)
The_Bear
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Gil Merrick
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I am interested to know how many of the anti Bruce lot never wanted Francis to leave and how many of the pro Bruce lot were pleased when he went?
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Blues
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Mikael Forssell
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Personally I missed out on a ST one year in TF's reign because he was just plain boring the pants off me. It's been the only year since the late '80s that I didn't have one. We still play the same style of football now, never enough bodies in the opposing box, but I'm just about clinging onto my ST so far.

The pair of 'em couldn't spot a decent striker between them.

I was chuffed whenTF went and although I'd like to see a different manager in now, I hold my breath when the likes of Dowie lose their jobs.
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I'm anti-Sb. Was sad when TF went but thought that it was probably the right move at the time. Despite him getting us to that League Cup Final

He'll always be hero because of what he did as a player it would just have been nice if he could have got us in to the Prem as well. But sentiment has no place in football management (DS please note)
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Jeff Hall
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I suppose I could be called pro-Bruce, but I prefer to think I'm pro-Blues, because I always support them, whoever is in charge. I hated the Ron Saunders and Wille Bell years, but I still went to the matches and gave the club my support.

I actually thought at the time that Blues were wrong to get SB as manager, but he proved me wrong by doing what nobody else had done in 16 years by getting us promotion. I now want him to do exactly the same again, and then show that he has learnt from his mistakes in the Premiership.

However, when Steve Bruce eventually leaves, which I hope won't be for some time, the new manager and his team will still get my support.
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Mikael Forssell
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At the time I was shocked when TF went. I didn't want him to go and there wasn't really anyone available any better to take us forwards but I was more than happy when we got Bruce in. Definitely a good signing and immediate promotion proved the decision right.

After delivering 4 Premiership seasons before relegation I was more than happy to hold onto Bruce when we went down.

Now results have picked up, I am glad I supported Bruce and never called for a change. I really believe he is the right man for the job and holding onto him when making a change wouldd have been far easier is the best thing for BCFC. Leeds and Albion are doing well with new managers aren't they.

KRO Bruce.
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Willie
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Willie
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My take on it is, Its of no consequence to me who the manager is. I go each week to back the team.

Whatever manager we have had. have had their good points and bad points. i guess media wise Francis and Bruce have had their mistakes highlighted and scrutinsed the most. Sky etc

I think Francis went way down in my estimation with his antics at Preston.

I think Bruce went down in my estimation when he failed to see what we could all see
that the side last season was not good enough.


One things certain as soon as the board have had enough Bruce will be gone. just as as they did with Francis.
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Alex Govan
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I'm anti-Bruce. I thought that Trevor's sacking was premature. I'd have loved to have seen what he could have done given the money that Bruce has had. Mind you, I'd love to see what Curbishley could do with that type of money too.
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Kenny Burns
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Hello everybody, I'm a vicar, I'm 31 years old and I'm anti-Bruce...(applause) I was very happy when Francis left, he was an awful man-manager and any decent manager would have had us up into the Premiership a long time before Francis got sacked!

But I also felt sorry for Francis, for two reasons...A) He was the victim of fans' fairytale ideologies about "Mr.Bluesky" coming back and taking us to the promised land et cetera...B) Sullivan telling all and sundry (and the Birmingham evening mail also I believe?) that he had 2 games to turn it around before he faced the axe, was wrong...full stop!

When I see Bruce treating the fans of the club he manages with such complete and utter disrespecting revulsion, which I may add you will never see from any other manager of any other football club, I feel doubley sorry for Francis as it seems that we as a club (fans and board alike even if it is a contradiction in terms?) is that we have put Bruce on a pedastal that he will never be toppled from. Maybe with a bit more luck Francis would now be on that plinth?

But I'm glad he's not!
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bornblues64
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Francis`s time had run out, he took us as far as he could. Was glad he went because i couldnt see him taking us that step further, but he is still a legend in my eyes.

Bruces time has run out, he has took us as far as he can, i will be glad because i cannot see him taking us thet step further. But hes no legend.
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Mike Skinner
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Im pro Bruce and was happy with TF but wasnt that suprised or sad he went
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Drnicks.better.half
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never wanted TF to leave.

if he had been able to bring in 6/7 players we would of gone up under TF IMO.

ps this post was brought to you by LHS. :D
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rob
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I will always be grateful to TF for making my initiation to watching live football so enjoyable - he will always be a hero to me **thumbup

As a manager, I think his time had come - he'd taken us as far as he could & proved that he was at best a "Mid table" Championship manager, & more realistically a 1st Div manager. (I agree with Valleyblue about sentiment)

Never really been SBs' biggest fan, but would probably not shed a tear if he were to go tomorrow or at any time. I think that his comments (for whatever reason) about the fans were TOTALLY out of order :copno:

I personally think he is of the same standard of manager as TF - maybe slightly better?

I do not think that he is the long term manager for Blues - if he were still with us in 15 - 20 years, I think we will still be yo-yoing between a Struggling Prem club & a Top 6 Championship club (regardless of how many millions he spends).

Unfortunately, apart from the likes of Martin O'Neill / Curbs / Jol & a couple of others (almost all of whom would not be available / not want to come to us), I can't give a realistic alternative at the moment.

I don't think I will ever like Bruce, but I'll stay off his back as long as we're winning.

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Willie
Nov 13 2006, 10:52 PM
My take on it is, Its of no consequence to me who the manager is. I go each week to back the team.


**thumbup Exactly
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Blue64
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Willie
Nov 13 2006, 10:52 PM
My take on it is, Its of no consequence to me who the manager is. I go each week to back the team.

Whatever manager we have had. have had their good points and bad points. i guess media wise Francis and Bruce have had their mistakes highlighted and scrutinsed the most. Sky etc

I think Francis went way down in my estimation with his antics at Preston.

I think Bruce went down in my estimation when he failed to see what we could all see
that the side last season was not good enough.


One things certain as soon as the board have had enough Bruce will be gone. just as as they did with Francis.

I agree with everything you have said there Willie **thumbup
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Willie
Nov 13 2006, 10:52 PM
My take on it is, Its of no consequence to me who the manager is. I go each week to back the team.

Whatever manager we have had. have had their good points and bad points. i guess media wise Francis and Bruce have had their mistakes highlighted and scrutinsed the most. Sky etc

I think Francis went way down in my estimation with his antics at Preston.

I think Bruce went down in my estimation when he failed to see what we could all see
that the side last season was not good enough.


One things certain as soon as the board have had enough Bruce will be gone. just as as they did with Francis.

good post, i think Francis couldnt have done much better with the resources he had, but if he had been given what Bruce has i would have been for him to stay
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Bookemdanno
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k-bek
Nov 13 2006, 10:42 PM
At the time I was shocked when TF went. I didn't want him to go and there wasn't really anyone available any better to take us forwards but I was more than happy when we got Bruce in. Definitely a good signing and immediate promotion proved the decision right.

After delivering 4 Premiership seasons before relegation I was more than happy to hold onto Bruce when we went down.

Now results have picked up, I am glad I supported Bruce and never called for a change. I really believe he is the right man for the job and holding onto him when making a change wouldd have been far easier is the best thing for BCFC. Leeds and Albion are doing well with new managers aren't they.

KRO Bruce.

Don't smoke crack! ;)
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Alex Govan
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Francis had ran out of time. It was sad, but his time was up.
I was more gutted when Barry Fry went. As i thought he was abruptly ousted, considering the board forecd him into selling Claridge, Daish, etc.

I didn't want Bruce initially. Gordon Strachan was my first choice, but i didn't mind Bruce.

I wanted Bruce out around this time last year. It didn't happen, then again it didn't happen following relegation. and again it didn't happen following 2 points from 15 possible points this season. So following his recent spell he deserves to stay. Until the next bad run we get.
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The_Bear
Nov 13 2006, 10:25 PM
I am interested to know how many of the anti Bruce lot never wanted Francis to leave and how many of the pro Bruce lot were pleased when he went?

i wasn't pleased when tf went, i thought we'd missed the prem boat to be honest.....although by all accounts he's the worst man-manager in footy history!!!

as for sb, he'll go when the time is right for the owners, and i for one will thank him for all he did for us and wish him well - then get on with supporting the lads again and hope the new manager delivers what he says he will...easy, easy, easy.... :D
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I liked TF's passion for the club, and the day at Cardiff for the Worthington was exceptional !

I thought the board over - reacted to the Man City result in the Worthington. Although the league position wasn't great at the time, it was so early in the season that it was easy to improve with just a couple of wins ! TF had gradually improved with every season, in terms of league position and play off progress, so who knows if he would have took us up that year ?

I also thought his hands were tied far tighter by the board than Bruces have ever been, which also worked against him !

The reason I'm a Bruce outer, is that under him, the humiliation against Liverpool was far worse than that at Maine Road under TF, also the relegation and poor runs of form (including this season) under him have been far worse than any suffered under TF. As i said, we never took a step backwards under TF , the first sign of one he was sacked. Under Bruce we have been sprinting backwards for 2 years, so the boards faliure to act represents inconsistency to me !
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I'm confused Bear - whats the trend ?

Why not do a poll ?

:rolleyes:
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