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New Main Stand; If not now, When ?
Topic Started: Nov 19 2006, 06:19 PM (1,195 Views)
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mr penguin
Nov 19 2006, 07:49 PM
The listed buildings could be moved brick by brick to an outdoor museum if the will existed.


do you know what is involved in doing that sort of job?

it's massive mate.

first you have to identifie every brick , timber and slate then nomber them then tackthem down without damaging them.

to costly and to be honest i dont think the council would alow it.
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The Concerned Potato Head
Nov 19 2006, 10:59 PM
the Cadbury's Stand has a good ring to it :D

Not as good as ring as the Jeff Hall stand
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Nov 20 2006, 01:53 PM
mr penguin
Nov 19 2006, 07:49 PM
The listed buildings could be moved brick by brick to an outdoor museum if the will existed.


do you know what is involved in doing that sort of job?

I know that it has been done for other listed buildings (there are some in the Black Country museum that have been relocated like that).

Our owners are worth £1bn so it would be peanuts to them.

I'm not saying that we should do it (can't see the point with our gates so low), just saying that if the will is there the listed building problem could be overcome.
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only if the council agreed
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mr penguin
Nov 20 2006, 02:58 PM
Left handed screwdriver
Nov 20 2006, 01:53 PM
mr penguin
Nov 19 2006, 07:49 PM
The listed buildings could be moved brick by brick to an outdoor museum if the will existed.


do you know what is involved in doing that sort of job?

I know that it has been done for other listed buildings (there are some in the Black Country museum that have been relocated like that).

Our owners are worth £1bn so it would be peanuts to them.

I'm not saying that we should do it (can't see the point with our gates so low), just saying that if the will is there the listed building problem could be overcome.

i know mat just saying it's a masive job.

thing is our owners sem to have long pockets and very short arms these days. ;)
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The Concerned Potato Head
Nov 19 2006, 10:20 PM
the main stand is an absolute embarssment

The best way to improve the look of the Main Stand is to remove that useless eyesore from the technical area in front of it.....
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Jolly Jack
Nov 20 2006, 03:31 PM
The Concerned Potato Head
Nov 19 2006, 10:20 PM
the main stand is an absolute embarssment

The best way to improve the look of the Main Stand is to remove that useless eyesore from the technical area in front of it.....

the pitch??? wouldn't be much of a game would it??? :rolleyes:
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proccysotv
Nov 20 2006, 03:50 PM
Jolly Jack
Nov 20 2006, 03:31 PM
The Concerned Potato Head
Nov 19 2006, 10:20 PM
the main stand is an absolute embarssment

The best way to improve the look of the Main Stand is to remove that useless eyesore from the technical area in front of it.....

the pitch??? wouldn't be much of a game would it??? :rolleyes:

Yes of course. I was actually refering to the pile of individual branded Sport's drinks bottles. Not Steve Bruce. Honest. :D
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proccysotv
Nov 20 2006, 03:50 PM
Jolly Jack
Nov 20 2006, 03:31 PM
The Concerned Potato Head
Nov 19 2006, 10:20 PM
the main stand is an absolute embarssment

The best way to improve the look of the Main Stand is to remove that useless eyesore from the technical area in front of it.....

the pitch??? wouldn't be much of a game would it??? :rolleyes:

from what i saw at the last match i went to it did'nt mater about the pitch :ph43r:
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Jolly Jack
Nov 20 2006, 03:54 PM
proccysotv
Nov 20 2006, 03:50 PM
Jolly Jack
Nov 20 2006, 03:31 PM
The Concerned Potato Head
Nov 19 2006, 10:20 PM
the main stand is an absolute embarssment

The best way to improve the look of the Main Stand is to remove that useless eyesore from the technical area in front of it.....

the pitch??? wouldn't be much of a game would it??? :rolleyes:

Yes of course. I was actually refering to the pile of individual branded Sport's drinks bottles. Not Steve Bruce. Honest. :D

careful jack, i didn't think you liked smiling much?? :D
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Whats the point in doing the main stand? we have a cracking stand at the Railway end and we can't even fill that.

In some ways i like the main stand, at least it gives the ground a bit of character, im sure after its rebuilt St. Andys will just be yet anotehr feature less warehouse with seats ala Derby, Leicster, saints, Coventry.
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monkey78
Nov 20 2006, 04:36 PM
Whats the point in doing the main stand? we have a cracking stand at the Railway end and we can't even fill that.

In some ways i like the main stand, at least it gives the ground a bit of character, im sure after its rebuilt St. Andys will just be yet anotehr feature less warehouse with seats ala Derby, Leicster, saints, Coventry.

:applause:
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The Concerned Potato Head
Nov 19 2006, 10:20 PM
the main stand is an absolute embarssment

even if it's just replacing the roof and removing the Floors 2 Go adverts in the centre of it for extra seats, it's better than nothing

the board are surely sitting on a new stadium being built for them, whether it's via England's world cup bid, a Commonwealth Games bid or casino licenses. they don't want to add any more to the current stadium.

supposing the 50-60,000 City of Birmingham stadium is built for 2018, we should still improve the current ground, even if it has say another 10 seasons between now and when the new stadium is finished

the City Council are still are still keen on the Birmingham Sports Village i'd think

If the Stadium was to be built before 2010 it could be used as an olympic games venue (concidering that the seats were planned to move to accomodate different pich sizes, it was very vercitile).

It could also help the country in several other bids like you say, A world cup bid etc.

Surely the councill can see this? They should have gave us the casino licence in the first place. We could have called it Casino Royale :lol: :unsure:

But seriously, the stadium would have been good for us, the community, the city and the country. Everyone wins! :P

As for sponsors, how about 'The Microsoft Stand' :lol:
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i'd think we'd need to expand our capacity whether it's St. Andrew's or a new ground just to compete with the top teams.

we can't carry on in the Championship with a 30,016 seater ground, we need to build a team good enough to target Europe and build a stadium to rival Liverpool's and Arsenal's new ground.

it's quite embarssing to see teams like Coventry, Leicester, Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday with bigger grounds

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The Concerned Potato Head Posted on Nov 20 2006, 05:08 PM
  i'd think we'd need to expand our capacity whether it's St. Andrew's or a new ground just to compete with the top teams.

we can't carry on in the Championship with a 30,016 seater ground, we need to build a team good enough to target Europe and build a stadium to rival Liverpool's and Arsenal's new ground.

it's quite embarssing to see teams like Coventry, Leicester, Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday with bigger grounds




But what is the point ? How can you say we cannot carry on in the Championship with a 30000 ground when were are no where near ever filling it?? We would never fill it, just like Cov,Leicester, Ipswich and Sheff Wed never fill there own.

Some Blues need to face the stark facts and see that we are not as big a club as some people think we are.
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Nov 20 2006, 05:17 PM
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The Concerned Potato Head Posted on Nov 20 2006, 05:08 PM
  i'd think we'd need to expand our capacity whether it's St. Andrew's or a new ground just to compete with the top teams.

we can't carry on in the Championship with a 30,016 seater ground, we need to build a team good enough to target Europe and build a stadium to rival Liverpool's and Arsenal's new ground.

it's quite embarssing to see teams like Coventry, Leicester, Ipswich and Sheffield Wednesday with bigger grounds




But what is the point ? How can you say we cannot carry on in the Championship with a 30000 ground when were are no where near ever filling it?? We would never fill it, just like Cov,Leicester, Ipswich and Sheff Wed never fill there own.

Some Blues need to face the stark facts and see that we are not as big a club as some people think we are.

i didnt mean we must build the stadium now while in the Championship, i said we need to build a good team first and then push on with the introduction of an improved home ground. to expand our home ground NOW would be pointless, it might not be if we started challenging at the top some time in the future because i've said before, this club has a massive potential fanbase, and we need to grab people before viler do (with their promise of regular Premiership football). getting promotion is a start.
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Sorry TCPH, I obviously misinterpreted your comments! **thumbup
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I think thats a really good idea, move the rest of the attendance into kop and tilton, stadium will fill whilst we build the rest of the horse shoe shape stadium, it would look so good, and it would be intimidating for other teams i think. Theres no reason why not, we should all expect prem next year so we will fill it. come on board give us something to look forward too.
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Nov 20 2006, 05:45 PM
I think thats a really good idea, move the rest of the attendance into kop and tilton, stadium will fill whilst we build the rest of the horse shoe shape stadium, it would look so good, and it would be intimidating for other teams i think.

which footballers are intimated by horseshoe shaped stadia ? :unsure:
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Nov 20 2006, 05:37 PM
Sorry TCPH, I obviously misinterpreted your comments! **thumbup

that's okay mate, i knew you misunderstood what i said so i was just clearing it up **thumbup
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mr penguin
Nov 20 2006, 05:53 PM
BCFCsam
Nov 20 2006, 05:45 PM
I think thats a really good idea, move the rest of the attendance into kop and tilton, stadium will fill whilst we build the rest of the horse shoe shape stadium, it would look so good, and it would be intimidating for other teams i think.

which footballers are intimated by horseshoe shaped stadia ? :unsure:

failed blacksmith footballers?
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BCFCsam
Nov 20 2006, 05:45 PM
I think thats a really good idea, move the rest of the attendance into kop and tilton, stadium will fill whilst we build the rest of the horse shoe shape stadium, it would look so good, and it would be intimidating for other teams i think. Theres no reason why not, we should all expect prem next year so we will fill it. come on board give us something to look forward too.

:banghead: :banghead: we cant finnish off the horshoe because on the houses behind the main stand there grade three listed buildings and they wont let us knock them down.

anyone got any asperin i ogt a wicked headacke
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okay, so i was bored :ph43r:


bare in mind i didnt use photoshop, but some cheap crappy software that came with my digital camera :lol:

new Main Stand (a mirror of the Kop)

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expanded new Main Stand

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new Main Stand at night

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expanded new Main Stand at night

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expanded Tilton

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expanded Kop and Tilton.

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did i go overboard? :silence:


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Anyone been on the Stadium tours ?
Very interesting in how the "talk" has changed. At the time we were going for the City of Birmingham Stadium, our tour guide was very dismissive of the Main Stand. We stood above the Railway and looked at the dereliction and mess at the end of the MS and were told all about the inability to build a new stand.

Now its changing. There is a possibility that the Main stand can be changed after all, and the gain of only a few hundred seats has now been changed to a few thousand seats. It is now all to do with footprints and height. Perhaps we didn't need sub basements in a new stand, nor car parks under the supports. Perhaps we only needed a 2-3 storey functional and vertical stand. No conference Hall, no ballroom, no submerged car park.
Just a stand for a football ground.

Funny how things can change
:rolleyes:

PS I see that TCPH has been on the new tour :D
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bluejan
Nov 20 2006, 07:46 PM
Anyone been on the Stadium tours ?
Very interesting in how the "talk" has changed. At the time we were going for the City of Birmingham Stadium, our tour guide was very dismissive of the Main Stand. We stood above the Railway and looked at the dereliction and mess at the end of the MS and were told all about the inability to build a new stand.

Now its changing. There is a possibility that the Main stand can be changed after all, and the gain of only a few hundred seats has now been changed to a few thousand seats. It is now all to do with footprints and height. Perhaps we didn't need sub basements in a new stand, nor car parks under the supports. Perhaps we only needed a 2-3 storey functional and vertical stand. No conference Hall, no ballroom, no submerged car park.
Just a stand for a football ground.

Funny how things can change
:rolleyes:

PS I see that TCPH has been on the new tour :D

still cant make the horseshoe though. :D

that sounds ok if there right and i dont see why it cant be done. **thumbup
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