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When Are They Fit
Topic Started: Nov 26 2006, 08:25 AM (572 Views)
Lucky
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when are dunn killkenny and grey back to full fitness,
we are on a great run at present but we just need one of those players back who has the knack of playing a cutting through ball and who will join the strikers in the box,i can now see exactly why brucie plays mcsheff on the left,
we are on a great run now but we just lack that little bit of quality from midfield to make us a top side in this division.
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Lucky
Nov 26 2006, 08:25 AM
when are dunn killkenny and grey back to full fitness,
we are on a great run at present but we just need one of those players back who has the knack of playing a cutting through ball and who will join the strikers in the box,i can now see exactly why brucie plays mcsheff on the left,
we are on a great run now but we just lack that little bit of quality from midfield to make us a top side in this division.

Kilkenny was on the bench today at Turf Moor

Gray was left out of the squad (no real surprise is it ??)

Matty Upson got 5 minutes in at Burnley

Not sure about Dunny.........obviously not 100 per cent fit yet and will probably need a reserve game to prove himself

Can't see The Forse ever playing for us again ....he was ruled out 12 weeks and come the January window if he is back training again I reckon we are going to sell him to the 1st club who show interest (subject to passing a medical of course )
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Lucky
Nov 26 2006, 08:25 AM
when are dunn killkenny and grey back to full fitness,
we are on a great run at present but we just need one of those players back who has the knack of playing a cutting through ball and who will join the strikers in the box,i can now see exactly why brucie plays mcsheff on the left,
we are on a great run now but we just lack that little bit of quality from midfield to make us a top side in this division.

Killkenny was on the bench today. Not sure he is as good as some say he is.

Gray not sure what the situation is with him, but judging by the reception some alleged fans gave him at a recent match's half time presentation i would not blame him for not wanting to play. disgraceful attitude towards one of our own players.

Dunn, a real poser this but if i were SB and the board i would go out and get someone who can perform a similar role. for a more consistent period of time. We cannot continue to wait for Dunn to get fit. we need to move on.

Forssell, is a sad case I would write this season off. and let him concentrate on getting his fitness back in the reserves.
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THEIR IS SOMETHING NOT RIGHT WITH THE GREY SITUATION,
we are crying out for someone like him on the left and the lad has talent,the way some fans treat him is harsh to say the least,i think with a good run in the side in that left wing role then he would come good,Martin Taylor was in the same position but now he has proved what some of have said on here for ages ,he now has the confidence to play,Grey in my opinion is in the same position
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cant see either dunn or upson playing for us properly again

there is no need atm and i beleive both of them dont want to be here

dunn wont be back until december leaving a few weeks before transfer window opens

no one remember gronkear after he wanted to leave, agreed to join a club in december and was left out of the squad until he moved on

you dont know if both of them have already agreed to join another club in january
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Dunn should be back soon...give it about 1-2 weeks I think.
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Lucky
Nov 26 2006, 08:50 AM
THEIR IS SOMETHING NOT RIGHT WITH THE GREY SITUATION,
we are crying out for someone like him on the left and the lad has talent,the way some fans treat him is harsh to say the least,i think with a good run in the side in that left wing role then he would come good,Martin Taylor was in the same position but now he has proved what some of have said on here for ages ,he now has the confidence to play,Grey in my opinion is in the same position

umm we have McSheffrey?
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Nov 26 2006, 05:46 PM
Lucky
Nov 26 2006, 08:50 AM
THEIR IS SOMETHING NOT RIGHT WITH THE GREY SITUATION,
we are crying out for someone like him on the left and the lad has talent,the way some fans treat him is harsh to say the least,i think with a good run in the side in that left wing role then he would come good,Martin Taylor was in the same position but now he has proved what some of have said on here for ages ,he now has the confidence to play,Grey in my opinion is in the same position

umm we have McSheffrey?

But McSheffrey and Bentner appear to be the best pairing up front. I would like to see Gray given a run in his proper position but I don't suppose we ever will.
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I like Mcsheffrey upfront, but we need him in Midfield more, I would leave it be, with Mcsheffrey on the Left and Bendtner upfront with DJC/Jerome, I prefer Jerome as I feel he offers the team more than DJC.

I think Gray's time with us is all but over, barring a miracle, I think he will leave in Janruary, I'm sure given a fresh chance he will find his form again.
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Nov 26 2006, 11:55 PM
I think he will leave in Janruary, I'm sure given a fresh chance he will find his form again.


I wish Julian all the best FINDING his form......but it may need a lots of resources and hundreds of man hours from the FBI,MI6 and Europol to find it
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well it looks like he is another who will leave because of the st andys boo boys.
another talented player who in my opinion has been given a very unfair crack of the whip.
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Lucky
Nov 27 2006, 06:42 AM
well it looks like he is another who will leave because of the st andys boo boys.
another talented player who in my opinion has been given a very unfair crack of the whip.

sickening, booing your own players.....what's that all about???
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it helps the other team proccy ,no one else,
how the devil are you this fine sunny morning,oh sorry wrong country.
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Nov 27 2006, 06:50 AM
it helps the other team proccy ,no one else,
how the devil are you this fine sunny morning,oh sorry wrong country.

i'm fine thanks mate, things are going pretty well for me at the moment. how's you and your health? any sign of that overdue retirement to the sun??? **thumbup
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not bad ,had a rough week last week but you got to keep going,
retirement ,im no nearer ,but the search goes on.
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The Force is out until Feb with the op done on his knee recently. I think its probably good management from Bruce sending Force for the op now means that he will not be available in Jan's window leaving him the rest of the season to show us he still has it! If not he will be moved on in the summer, Bruce aint thick he knows a fully fit Force in the prem is a must, as at the mo none of our forwards would be able to cut it at that level (Bendtner not ours and probably wont be with us then)
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Nov 27 2006, 09:24 AM
The Force is out until Feb with the op done on his knee recently. I think its probably good management from Bruce sending Force for the op now means that he will not be available in Jan's window leaving him the rest of the season to show us he still has it! If not he will be moved on in the summer, Bruce aint thick he knows a fully fit Force in the prem is a must, as at the mo none of our forwards would be able to cut it at that level (Bendtner not ours and probably wont be with us then)

i think we might be able to hold onto Bendtner another season yet so that he can prove to Wenger he can cut it in the prem
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Lucky
Nov 27 2006, 06:42 AM
well it looks like he is another who will leave because of the st andys boo boys.
another talented player who in my opinion has been given a very unfair crack of the whip.



Totally disagree
Gray has been given plenty of chances to prove himself...even on the left wing
If he had even put in 50 per cent of the required 100 per cent of effort then maybe folks would get off his back

Complete waster and pure glory hunter (thus the several missed chances in front of gaping goalmouths) and has no stomach for a battle........totally UNWORTHY to wear the Royal Blue shirt

Worse player (as far as committment goes) this club has had since Mike Newell
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But a lot of that stems from when he lost his confidence by being played out of position and then the fans getting on his back during games as soon as he makes a mistake, but ignoring when he does the good things.

I defy anybody who is constantly told they are rubbish to perform at a high level. His confidence must be rock bottom at the moment and I would love to see fans, whatever their opinions of him, get behind him for a good period of time an therefore encourage better performances.
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Nov 27 2006, 12:03 PM
But a lot of that stems from when he lost his confidence by being played out of position and then the fans getting on his back during games as soon as he makes a mistake, but ignoring when he does the good things.

I defy anybody who is constantly told they are rubbish to perform at a high level. His confidence must be rock bottom at the moment and I would love to see fans, whatever their opinions of him, get behind him for a good period of time an therefore encourage better performances.

:applause: :applause:

criticism is easy - standing tall by someone during hard-times takes courage and there aint enough about.... **thumbup
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In my humble opinion, being played at left back, when you cannot tackle and have not played there before cannot have helped the lad.

Its happening with Danns as well, mark my words there is another who will go the same way as Gray unless hes used properly.

Play the players in their proper positions and then we can judge.
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Nov 27 2006, 12:10 PM
In my humble opinion, being played at left back, when you cannot tackle and have not played there before cannot have helped the lad.

Its happening with Danns as well, mark my words there is another who will go the same way as Gray unless hes used properly.

Play the players in their proper positions and then we can judge.

:applause: :applause: thank you thats what ive been saying about julian all this time.
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Nov 26 2006, 01:17 PM
cant see either dunn or upson playing for us properly again

there is no need atm and i beleive both of them dont want to be here

dunn wont be back until december leaving a few weeks before transfer window opens

no one remember gronkear after he wanted to leave, agreed to join a club in december and was left out of the squad until he moved on

you dont know if both of them have already agreed to join another club in january

Who? I wouldnt think anyone would take a chance on Dave Dunn....Upson.yes at the right price.£3,5 mill :unsure:
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Danns won't end up the same as Gray.
Danns actually has some passion, determination and tracks back as much as possible, not like Gray who's a lazy **** and a waste of space.
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Nov 28 2006, 12:04 PM
Danns won't end up the same as Gray.
Danns actually has some passion, determination and tracks back as much as possible, not like Gray who's a lazy **** and a waste of space.

But Danns is new at the club and still has the enthusiasm. Gray has got worse over a period of time by being played out of position and then having the fans on his back.

Danns will suffer the same fate because he is no good on the right and it won’t be long before the same boo boys start having a go.

It is mind-boggling to me why we keep buying player who do well for another club in a particular role and then constantly play them out of position and wonder why they don’t perform as expected.
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