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New Main Stand Or New Stadium?
Topic Started: Feb 8 2007, 01:50 AM (1,902 Views)
deanlad
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New Stand, raise the Capacity to 35,000

We can't feel the gorund we have.

We'd be like a pea in a whistle in a new stadium.

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deanlad
Feb 13 2007, 12:22 PM
New Stand, raise the Capacity to 35,000

We can't feel the gorund we have.

We'd be like a pea in a whistle in a new stadium.

The same question to you that nobody has answered. Why spend (waste) £15 million on a new stand.?
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A new main stand like the north stand at Old Trafford. Three tiers, that would look class.
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Feb 13 2007, 01:21 PM
A new main stand like the north stand at Old Trafford. Three tiers, that would look class.

no room for a large stand as their are several blocks of flats behind the main stand, st andrews cant cope when their are 30 thousand never mind anymore.
Absolutely no reason to build a new stand it would be money wasted.
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Feb 13 2007, 02:34 PM
87dominguez
Feb 13 2007, 01:21 PM
A new main stand like the north stand at Old Trafford. Three tiers, that would look class.

no room for a large stand as their are several blocks of flats behind the main stand, st andrews cant cope when their are 30 thousand never mind anymore.
Absolutely no reason to build a new stand it would be money wasted.

Dont they have planning permission to knock those flats down?
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If we argue about this one long enough the main stand will just become condemned.

Can you imagine if we get a bit of high wind, part of the roof may get ripped off and almost kill a supporter underneath!!

If that ever happened - you would think the board would be so embarrassed they would replace the stand straight away.

To be fair though no-one sits in the paddocks anymore. :wacko: :D :whistle:
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new stand have an exact of the kop and carry on the horseshoe. what people dont realise is that we have had the planning permission 3 times but because we leave it too long ooing n arring we have to apply for it again.

Another thing is, if we do carry on the horseshoe shape then that will take our cappacity up to about 40,000 then we can also build on top of these three stands to take it to about 65,000 (thats if we fill the 40,000)

The reason we cant sell out atm is that the board dont realise that there better off having more of a little than nothing of a lot! feed.back
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Feb 13 2007, 03:38 PM
new stand have an exact of the kop and carry on the horseshoe. what people dont realise is that we have had the planning permission 3 times but because we leave it too long ooing n arring we have to apply for it again.

Another thing is, if we do carry on the horseshoe shape then that will take our cappacity up to about 40,000 then we can also build on top of these three stands to take it to about 65,000 (thats if we fill the 40,000)

The reason we cant sell out atm is that the board dont realise that there better off having more of a little than nothing of a lot! feed.back

The horseshoe would be boring, just like everyone else. I want the main stand to the main stand. 3 tiers, huge, with 2 tv screens in each corner. Leave the Tilton and Kop on there own. And the tunnel in the Main Stand. It would look class.


I want St Andrews to look indivdual.
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Feb 13 2007, 01:37 PM
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Feb 13 2007, 02:34 PM
87dominguez
Feb 13 2007, 01:21 PM
A new main stand like the north stand at Old Trafford. Three tiers, that would look class.

no room for a large stand as their are several blocks of flats behind the main stand, st andrews cant cope when their are 30 thousand never mind anymore.
Absolutely no reason to build a new stand it would be money wasted.

Dont they have planning permission to knock those flats down?

As far as i know they have permission to knock down one block only, the empty derelict one that they own.
This will only gain the club a few metres nowhere near for the large stand you are asking for.
Even if they could build a large stand to increase the capacity of the ground they dont have the infastructure that a new ground would offer i,e rail/road links.
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Feb 13 2007, 12:08 PM
How much is the stadium going to cost? I mean we were willing to pay most of it, how much did the Casino make up? I've said this many times but I don't see why we can't just get the extra money from sponsorship, I.E. The 'Flybe.com' Stadium.

£217m, but that was when the gambling company was prepared to pay for the entire Birmingham Sports Village


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Birmingham target super stadium 

Birmingham moved to St Andrews in 1906
Birmingham chairman David Gold has thrown his backing behind plans for a new 50,000-60,000 capacity all-seater sports stadium in the city.
The Blues would leave St Andrews and become tenants at the new stadium which would also be used for other events.

Gold said: "Birmingham is one of the great cities of Europe, and it has many cultural centres, but it does not have a great stadium and it should have.

"We are a city to be proud of and we have got to grasp the nettle."


The proposed 50-acre site, on land owned by the city council, is currently home to Birmingham Wheels Park go-kart track.

The Las Vegas Sands Group, one of America's biggest gambling companies, has agreed to underwrite the whole cost of the venture.

Gold added: "There are four options for us. We could do nothing. If you can survive on a 30,000 capacity without burdening yourself with debt - and we have no debt - then there is a case for that.


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"You could rebuild the main stand at a cost of £12m to increase the capacity by five or six thousand - but they would be the most expensive seats in the Premiership.

"We could build a brand new 40,000-seater stadium on our own which I think, unless we received help, does not seem feasible.

"Then there is that fourth possibility that the city of Birmingham builds a stadium which we all share.

"Manchester has proven that it can be done with the City of Manchester Stadium where Manchester City play. I believe that a great city like Birmingham should have the same



comments on the proposals

amric
yes,I think it should go ahead for the people to enjoy a staduim instead of having one for 100 years

DANNO
i think we should get it so we can hav epride in birmingham city football club

dan francis
yes we need it for a boost of going down and to have a profecional

Jon Prew
Of course the project should go ahead. Next season when Blues are back where they belong it is imperative the players and fans have something grand to look forward to. As for birmingham, new jobs are always attractive as would be a supercasino, atheletics and also ensure that blues are not dwarfed by vile dark being the largest midland stadium. Surely it is essential to push the vile to the edge where they belong.

sam scott
yes it should go ahead because birmingham is the secend biggest city in england and should have some thing big and as great as this stadium!! and the stadium will be great for the club and for the fans!

jon n chris
yeah course it is the second city of england so it should at least have a big stadium but sometimes we dont get the old one filled up

Matt
Of course it should, but it won't. All talk no action, as is so often the case in this country.

shamus
yes it should are old ground is terrible it will probably be the best

majority of blues supporters base
we are in the championship what are we doing with stadium like that steve bruce OUT SOON AS POSSIBLE !!!!!!!!

becky
the sports village would be good for birmighams buisneses and atractions

Rebekah
I have recently visited the 'Wheels Park' area on a school trip, where they are going to build this Sports Village. After seeing copious amounts of derelict buildings, I am supporting the proposed Sports Village 100%.

chris.
if this stadium is worth like £3million how are birmingham city FC going to pay there debt in the championship next season

Natasha Jordan
Just amazing, an opportunity not to be missed, would be crazy for council not to vote for this project, JOBS JOBS, regeneration of wasteland, community facilites second to none, world class stuff for world class city, lets make sure we are not a second city, but a first class city..

keith mayers
could the local councillors think of more employment and sports facilities in the inercity, than a rich boys club at the nec with more employment for solihull. the birmingham youth need it

ciaran
the new stadium would be good for the club and for the city there would be good jobs and plenty of things to do so let it go ahead please thank you

Claret and Blue through and through
supporters make a club not the stadium!!! Get real B.C.F.C supporters you can't afford your season tickets now so how would you be able to pay extortionate prices for a super stadium ? dream on your noses will always be GREEN envy will always follow you.

Tom Foy
Up the blues! they should go for it it will certainly attract birmingham as a more tourist city and hopefully will be used for the olympics.

Dan
i think its a wonderfull idea i dont no how anyone can even turn a blind eye 2 such a brill opertunety although IF we go down then we will be a bit like a ghost town trying to fill the massive thing

James Macmillan
I think it will be a one in a life time opportunity for blues but not just for them for the community so yes it is agood thing

kris
this staduim will just end up getting graffitied on, avfc 4 life ! youth youth

Ben
If you want to see the latest info, they've just launched a website. www.birminghamsportsvillage.com

Matt Thomas
It's a win-win situation for the City of Birmingham, let alone Birmingham City. What a fabulous opportunity to regenerate a rundown area of the city and provide superb facilities and income that all Brummies, not just Blues fans, will benefit from. And what's more, it won't cost a penny of tax payers money - when will that chance ever come again? I understand the opposition, but it must be remembered the casino will take up just 2% of the village and that local concerns have been addressed with the inclusion of a community centre and other ammenities. Blues won't sell out 55,000 but with reasonable pricing and more flexible seating 40,000+ is very realistic. viler fans - think of the city ahead of your own reluctance to see Blues in a new stadium!

Ryan
Blues Y Do U Want A Mint Ground Wen UR Gonna B Playin In The Championship Next Season !! AVFC

daniel
Birmingham should get the stadium go ahead because birmingham needs a decent stadium and also it could then be used to hold england games and also i think if we ad the bigger stadium it would attract more people to the club and we would get a good attendence

barryking
lets get going sounds good

Saleem
Dam right we should

bradley jones
no we dont want a new ground inm a ruff area

paul anderton
the nec has more expierence running events but both will be a waste of time and money as BLACKPOOL will win the casino bid as they have been planning for years and your still trying to decicde on a site

steve
anthony, birmingham aren't paying for it, las vegas sands are.

sammm da true brummy
i think karren brady is absolutely right and we should have it built but if its onli in the range of where st.andrews (i salute thee)is, i dont want to travel miles to wacth a match,but im backing karen all the way and i hope it goes through providing more money for the club to make it a better one. thankz

Anthony Yates
The government willnnot let you build this new stadium because they will not let you have the land around the stadium and u will not have enough money to build ot.

Chris
Good to hear someone else sticking up for the Wheels complex. Don't get me wrong I like my football, but it irritates me how the assumption is that football must come before all other sports in this country. It would be big loss if the wheels complex was flattened, it hosts some pretty big stock car events, and provides superb entertaiment for thousands of race fans. Every year, a Children in Need stock car event is held, with over £10,000 raised.

chris
Yeah, but what about the Birmingham wheels racing circuit, which is where the new ground is going to be built, will that be relocated? Not everyone is into football believe it or not, and I think it would be a shame if the wheels complex was lost?

martin
why is everyone slating the fact that birmingham city are the only people that seem to want to offer something the whole of birmingham and the sorrounding community can benefit from hugely. why not look at the wider picture that birmingham will finally get some recognition. good luck bcfc

kaz
see the blues think they're going to be the next chelsea then! nec will get the birmingham bid and rightly so

frank haywood
the city need it ,what more can be said,

steve
in response to nick (viler fan), you should spend more of your time getting accurate facts than than what you think you know. birmingham not only sell out the stadium at every home game, which fair enough is only 30000, this still out sells viler whose attendance is apalling considering viler fans go on about being the best team in birmingham. viler only get big attendances at rival games. birmingham would benefit far more to get the new stadium than renovate st andrews.

carl arrowsmith
good for the blues make birmingham the best in the country hope they build it soon

James
Re: Froggo from sydney. A lot of people are saying similar to what you're saying, about there not being enough fans to fill such a stadium. But we have to remember that this is a joint Birmingham city council/ football scheme. The stadium will be a multi-purpose stadium which can host athletics, cricket and rugby matches alongside Birmingham city home games, so even if the Bham city were to be relegated (which is a very real possibility) the constuction of the stadium could be justified due to it's multi-purpose function.

Carl Sims
Yes, definately. For too long Birmingham has sat in the shadow of London and more recently Manchester & Newcastle. Why should we not have a state of the art sports/leisure complex that not only Birmingham city fans but also the rest of the West Midlands can be proud of. Just because we are known as the second city, why should we always settle for second best. It will not only boost revenue for Birmingham and the surrounding area's but will also boost the views of how the rest of the "world" views our ambition.

froggo from Sydney
Why do Birmingham need a 55000 capacity stadium when they cant fill their teeny weeny 30000 hole? I say build it and let the blue noses play in an empty stadium, afterall they are used to it.

JAM
What will happen to the sporting clubs that call the wheels complex home .Will they have a place in the new complex

Lataya
This is definately want Birmingham needs, to put it back on the map. At the moment its suffering from severe critism; the main argument being its unworthy to been deemed the 2nd city!!

Dan Winters
Lets get one thing straight- by hosting the 2002 commonwealth games, Manchester has NOT overtaken Birmingham. The commonwealth games is a 3rd tier sporting event that gets little world media attention. The list of countries that do not compete in the commonwealth games is very long- USA, Russia, China, Germany, France, Spain, Japan, Brazil, Mexico, Indonesia and so on.... In terms of TV audiences, the 2002 Manchester commonwealth games had record low viewing figures in Canada. As a result, Canada's main broadcaster- CBC will not be screening the 2006 commonwealth games. Victoria, Canada hosted the 1994 commonwealth games. On the world stage has the city overtaken Toronto and Montreal? The answer is NO. Brisbane hosted the 1982 commonwealth games, has it ovcertaken Sydney? Once again- NO. If we're talking about events that grab world attention, remember Bham hosted the 1998 G8 summit which was attended by world leaders like Bill Clinton and Boris Yeltsin. The G8 summit got far more world media publicity than the 2002 commonwealth games.

lee
it would be grate

Wasim Rķaz
Birmingham NEEDS a large capacity stadium, and the fact that someone else is willing to pay for it so us brummies won't have to should be backed to the fullest extreme. I hear the major opposition is from Muslim councillors who oppose the building of casinos. I am a Muslim too, and all I can say is that, there is no obligation for anyone to gamble, so it will make absolutely no difference to Muslims, who instead should be grateful for the many jobs that will be created. It disappoints me that it is my own people who are halting something that will be a dream come true. Also, while we're on the topic, something needs to be done with the Rotunda. I believe it has a place in our modernisation of Brum, but it's an eyesore. We should be chasing a multi-million dollar deal with Pepsi or Coke to redesign it into a giant drinks can. That will bring some more money in. Unfortunately, the council doesn't seem to have anyone with a creative or positive bone in their body. Thank you.

Pankaj /Handa
55k dtadium is too small should be at least 80k

Jordan Tocknell
It is about time that the second city has a bigger and better football stadium. im fed up of hearing manchester united this manchester united that, why isnt it birmingham instead. birmingham is a fantastic city with a great football team and thats why we need a better football stadium. everybody knows that alot of tourists come to Birmingham and thats what london is afraid of, and thats why they wouldn't let birmingham have wembley, but who needs that, let london have that awfull stadium.

Robert Richards
I definately think it should go ahead. It will bring many new and exciting experiences to Birmingham and prove what a great city we are and how we can cope with such big projects. This will bring brum back into the 21st century and beyond. Don't let the NEC take all the glory from us.

Nigel Tucker
We should have a stadium in our city to rival any in the country! Sorry but the 'new wembly' would fade into the background. For the Future - it will bring regeneration to our once envied city, promote jobs, and maybe we could host a few of the world cup games in 2014. It would put our city right back on the map. NEC get real!

elz_ blues fan!!
i think this is a great idea...birmingham is supposed to be the second city of england but we alwayz lose competetition to london, manchester and liverpool our council needs to start doing something like their councils are, we need to catch up and compete with them..if we have this sports complex we will have 2 amazing grounds which can only benefit the football coverage of our city it will put us on the map.. also if we DO get this we will have an amzing sports complex AND the bullring we would be a modern and improving city and attract 1000s of tourists....go for it!!

daddy
what about the people who live near there not thinking about them are you

scott bilam
i think so becouse the contory need to be more helthe in meney wayes

MR ASDAN
I LIKE IN LONDON AND I THINK BIRMINGHAM SHOULD HAVE THE GROUND THEY WILL STAY UP viler,SUNDERLAND AND PORTSMOUTH WILL GO DOWN I AM A MANCHESTER UNITED FAN GET BLUES THE Ground

nanny burp
i AM A LIVERPOOL FAN AND BLUES SHOULD HAVE IT SO BIRMINGHAM CAN BE A BIG CLUB AGAIN LIKE WHEN THEY HER EGOOD IN THE 50S 1 OF THE TOP CLUBS IN ENGLAND THE SOTV VILL GOING DOWN COME ON BLUES BUY JARISIK AND BUTT AND GLEN JOHNSON

terry payne
yes, the BCFC proposal should be the one selected,it has more scope and advantages than the NEC proposal.

will mre
man you are the best in the world

DJ Golby
A lot of people are talking as if this stadium will be ready for next season. Even if BCFC did go down there would be plenty of time to get back to the Premiership. This is a plan for the future, it will also mean that ticket prices should come down. I saw earlier today that the home tickets for Man Utd are £45. That is ridiculous, id love to see them play Man Utd but at that price it is stupid. I for one would go frequently if ticket prices were around £20. They would then fill the stadium. Also it will be great for Birmingham, someone said it would be like Old Trafford, I wish! That place is arguably the best ground in the country, why would you not want that?! So I think it should go ahead! n.b has anyone noticed that this project is a small fraction of the price for the new wembley?

phil woods
Go for it

ryan eddy
let blues have the ground they are a good team and they will stay up they need the ground it will bring fans back to birmingham and it will put birmingham on the map and that will be good for everyone and it will bring loads of jobs sotv jimmy e

jimmy e
let brummies have a new ground they need it they have worked for it manchester give manchester city one so why can't blues have one so let it go a head up the blues

Andy Hyde
To Germaine Birmingham's already on the map. It's approx. 120 miles from London and about 400 miles South of Edinburgh. Oh, and it's the second largest city in the country. Isn't that enough? The Casino money will only go to the Casino owners, after they have generated around 150 jobs. The outcome of these 150 jobs on the local economy will be, at best, nominal. I have nothing against Casinos, as they are merely a tax on optimistic people. Like the Lottery.

John
I wrote the message 'to Sajid' backing the stadium and I am a viler season ticket holder. As I said we should all back the stadium regardless of what team we follow, viler fans who do not support the project are brainless as this whole development will benefit us all. Besides which the stadium will not belong to Blues anyway so viler will still have the best stadium, and when the North Stand is developed the capacities will match so Bham will have two great football grounds to be proud of.

thomas hawkes
this magnificent stadium will really put birmingham on the map.

MICHAEL STEEPLES
FOR YEARS BIRMINGHAM HAS LOST OUT TO LONDON ,MANCHESTER EVEN LIVERPOOL ITS TIME WE STAND UP AND SHOW THE REST OF THE WORLD THAT BIRMINGHAM IS THE SECOND CITY IN ENGLAND AND THIS SPORTING VILLIAGE IS SURELY A WAY FORWARD FOR BIRMINGHAM ,,,,PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE TO GAMBLE IT IS OF THERE OWN ACCORD SO WORRYING ABOUT A CASINO IS A LOAD OF RUBBISH

ali
come on Birmingham city council!!! Do something for the public of Birmingham for a change, that stadium is awsome and will put our great city on the map and create thousands of jobs

bazza
essential at saltley only objections r from viler supporters understandably jealous

greg
anyone notice that most the viler fans are against it shame were getting a better stadium hahaha

stacey belshaw
its a good idea, but it would be better if birmingham city actually owned it, and were not renting it.

To Sajid
We've already got sports complexes too so why are you 'all for' another one??!! we've got an airport so why build another one? We had a shopping centre so why build the new bullring? We have a library so why build a new one? We have shops, pubs, roads, parks, train lines and stations etc so why have more? The answer is because its an improvement and development and its good for the city of Birmingham. Your questioning this baffles me? The casino will only take up 5% of the entire site which will create thousands of jobs and provide top class facilities. I urge all brummies to get behind the project regardless of football loyalties or opinions on gambling, for the simple reason that it is good for the city. I'm sure if you asked people who don't like football but have a brain if they agree with the proposal they would say 'yes' although they will never go into the stadium. If you don't agree with casino's don't go in them! its that simple. The fact is many others should not be denied access to such facilities just because others don't like it. It appears to me that many people here have developed some sort of seedy, crime based idea of what a casino is like, yet they have obviously never been in one if they had they would know that its not like this at all. What exactly is the issue with casino's? The wheels adventure park is a lot worse with regards noise and youths than a casino would be? Are bookmakers or Bingo halls any different? I don't think so - and they wouldn't create half the criticism! A football stadium creates many many many more problems for local residents than a casino could yet this doesn't seem to be a problem. As would a supermarket, a mosque, an industrial estate or a factory - all for some reason or another I feel would escape such criticism????

sajid
Im all for the sports complex, but i object to the casino, we alredy have a the starcity casino

Chris
50,000 Seater Stadium looks good coming from a viler Fan but i dont think youre Fill it when you can't fill a 30,000 stadiuma nd youre going down to the Championship.

Russell Dempsey
I say it's a great idea. Residents of Birmingham arguing that casinos can't be in residential areas are ignoring the UK's biggest casino at Star City... I say it would be great for the City. Criminals tend to steal cars and burgle houses, rather than frequenting casinos that are likely to have great security and CCTV....

Germaine
The stadium should be built this would really get Birmingham on the map. Daniel is a time-waster.

Graham
Great Idea the City needs this to happen but will it still go ahead if Blues go down, We have a Following more better than that other club in Arston ? but people do tend to stay away from their clubs when they have gone down which means less revenue coming in each week. I wish the Board and every body involved in this project all the best. lets get this club up where it belongs and no more living in the shaddows of other clubs.keep right on.

steven cale
i think the staduim should go ahead as it will a. mean that birmingham city have more supporters at the ground b. mean they can put ticket prices down c. measn more jobs in the area d. means birmingham can host all kinds of sporting events

Nick ( arston viler Fan)
concentrate on redeveloping the other side of st Andrews and stregnthen the playing staff.it would be a waste of time building a 50;000 seater stadium for Birmingham city fc your average gate is only 25;000 There are more viler fans than blues fans in birmingham viler;s average gate is 39;000 every home game And there are plans to redevelop vile dark simply because we have more supporters

Jane
I don't like it

ian mathew
if you do not like the idear of a casino near you move! i think it is a great plan for brum

thommo
The super casino is going to blackpool, everyone know that. Perhaps spend more time looking at the clubs current plight than into the future at unrealist plans.

Jonny
The way things are looking at the moment, it'll be the best stadium in the Championship.

craig rogers
excellent news for birmingham,it will add to a great new city centre and put sport on the map for birmingham. it should be commended

Mr. Adrian D. Duffen
Yes the Super Stadium with casino should go ahead. This is ideally placed in the inner city. It will be all private money used. This will regenerate that part of Birmingham. Out of town stadiums do not work, as half the population of that city have to travel too far to get there.

Ramandeep Gill
Everybody seems to be forgoetting about the stadium being able to hold Test Matches. I'm sure this stadium is a good idea as it will bring together all ethnic groups by the way of a number of Sports such as crcket, football etc.

Mike Baggies Blogger
looks ace!will do the city the power of good,don't know whether Blues would fill it though, no disrespect to them but Man City don't fill there stadium and this would be a similar venture to that one.

Dave
I support the idea, the current stadium isn't big enough for the number of fans that want to go, especially to the big games! It may also reduce ticket prices which is great for all fans! Birmingham needs a great team, and stadium to represent the city!

Paul - Haarlem
Casino bringing in more crime? Already high un-employment rates! What are you going on about Fermanie? Do you have any idea of how a casino works and the type of people that frequent these places? Go for it Blues - the area needs more to be proud of, and it will generate extra revenue and possibly extra employment oppurtunities. Some people don't know when they are being offered a good thing.
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Have been a bluenose now for 41 years..... Seen the thick and thin and couldn`t imagine, ever having a new stadium. St Andy`s has been OUR ground for 100 years now, so why move??????

I think definitely a new main stand and if needs be, IF the crowds start coming back, we can expand on the tier system.

I agree also on the ticket/stall prices should be lowered, this will encourage fans returning on match days.

Maybe we could also introduce a part of the ground as standing instead of all seater !!!!!!!!!!! Would increase support and bring more atmosphere to the place.

KRO Always BLUE.

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Ahh, I thought the casino was only paying for some of it. Us paying the rest.
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deanlad
Feb 13 2007, 12:22 PM
New Stand, raise the Capacity to 35,000

We can't feel the gorund we have.

We'd be like a pea in a whistle in a new stadium.

The same question to you that nobody has answered. Why spend (waste) £15 million on a new stand.?

Yes I agree with you, lets wait till we qualify for Europe or something........
My seat is quite comfortable thankyou. :banner:
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From TCPH's post:

David Gold
 

"You could rebuild the main stand at a cost of £12m to increase the capacity by five or six thousand - but they would be the most expensive seats in the Premiership."


Our ticket prices are already too high. City Of Birmingham Stadium FTW!
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the most expensive in the Premiership

i wonder what the ticket prices would be?

£80 for Championship football? :LMAO:
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ESONEULB
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Being short sited and you will say new stand..

Being long sited with vision and a real passion to make this club as good as any other and it has to be a new stadium.


Business wise we should have a multi purpose stadium and i hate say it but we should share. That last bit sent shivers down my spine. Sod them lets keep it to ourselves.

We are BLUES not not PINKS

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Steve
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Sorry to bump this up from Page 15 but I have just come back from Leipzig and seen their ZentralStadium. It's a 40,000 stadium built just for the world cup. Very nice, looks similar to wembly.

However, according to the people there not many actually like football. It's not very big and ZentralStadium Hardly ever (if never) fills up to capacity. Their team is rubbish like the German Equivalent of Hull.

Yet the German Government backs all sports projects etc.

If they can have that stadium then why cant we have ours? < <
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proud2bblue
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Feb 8 2007, 01:15 PM
If your happy with 20,000 crowds & no hope of ever competing at a higher level then a new stand it is, though why anybody would waste £15 million on building a stand that would lie empty is beyond me.
A new stadium is the only way forward for this club & the only way the missing fans like myself will return(with sensible s/t prices of course) will also allow us to increase fanbase in future.

Well said Northside i cant even believe this topic is up for debate.
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:Blues: Plain and simple New Stadium. I have 40 years of fond and not so fond memories of St andrews from the past but we need a 21st Century sporting arena.

So who`s going to call Wimpeys and who is going to stump up the money ??????

PS Fantastic win last nite
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bornblues64
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Question to all you futuristic people, if Blues had a 55,000 super stadium, what makes any of you think Blues would fill it?????

New main stand for me and stay where we are, i dont want a ground we all share with poxy athletics etc i wouldnt want the new ground to be for the city, i love St.Andrews cos its Blues, through and through, it is Blues "territory",

And one comment i saw on the thread about being good for ethnic minorities to mix, i would dare to suggest that havent there been enough buildings put up for the ethic minorities to mix in????????

Not in the Blues ground thank you very much
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I think its more the older generation who will vote for the new stand as they have been coming here for a while

Us young ens will vote for new stadium as well get to go there more often in the future,

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so....

brand new 55,000 capacity stadium, with fantastic archtecture and facilities, retractable roof, seats, sliding pitch and a host of other sporting facilities in its proximity, and would help to propel Birmingham City to the level of other major European clubs, draw new fans, raise interest in the club and the city and would also cost Birmingham City Football Club....NOTHING

versus

100 year old theatre of failure, ugly, bog-standard 30,016 capacity stadium that looks like a factory on 3 sides and an embarassing dump on one side that is a detriment to the perception of the club, with awful facilities that convinces good players that we're not a big club and would never allow us to fulfill our ambition of being a major European club and drawing in new fans and would also cost Birmingham City Football Club £12m to build a cheap-looking extension that no-one could afford to sit in.


please people, think long-term

getting back into the Prem would give us back 30,000

cheaper prices and good on-field performances, probably another 7,000

plus the new stadium which EVERY Birmingham fan would love to see, that's another 15,000 (as what goes with many other new super-stadium developments)

Blues fans think they're a small club with no fans because their stadium says that

the fans DO exist to fill this stadium


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rob
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It is not worth arguing about...........

If we have the chance of a new stadium, we should fight with all our might to get it!!!


St Andy's is our home at the moment - City of Birmingham Stadium is the future :Blues:


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DEdblue
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Feb 13 2007, 02:38 PM
new stand have an exact of the kop and carry on the horseshoe. what people dont realise is that we have had the planning permission 3 times but because we leave it too long ooing n arring we have to apply for it again.

Another thing is, if we do carry on the horseshoe shape then that will take our cappacity up to about 40,000 then we can also build on top of these three stands to take it to about 65,000 (thats if we fill the 40,000)

The reason we cant sell out atm is that the board dont realise that there better off having more of a little than nothing of a lot! feed.back

Continuing the Tilton gives +4,000.... they had planning for that and £12,mill. Gold said was not worth it for 4,000 extra seats.
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kopcorner37
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New main stand.

Who needs a ground with no soul, when we can simply update the main stand and have a decent 40,000 seater which has history and something that is different to other new grounds.

I hate going away now and seeing that all the grounds are a splitting image of each other
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