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| abblue | Feb 28 2007, 02:04 PM Post #1 |
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Frank Worthington
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Put aside all the controversy over 1130 Sunday kick-offs and high prices, if you want to know why us Blues fans are staying away from the team at the top of the league, the answer is to listen to your own manager. In last nights after-match interview, broadcast on Radio WM, he explained his tactics in words akin to " we decide what we have to do to get promoted and decide the best way to do it". Given that barring an upset, the two automatic promotion spots are going to be occupied by the current top four. Mowbray at West Brom and Keane at Sunderland have decided to play skillful, fast attacking football to achieve that end. I can't comment on Derby as I haven't seen them play. SB has decided to grind out 1-0 results as can been seen by last night. I'm no statistician, but I bet there were more passes square across the field and backwards than there were forwards. We started brightly and played well until the goal after 15 minutes. I then spent the next hour and a quarter biting my nails, watching the team at the top of the league, at home to the team at the bottom, waiting for the almost inevitable Leeds equaliser (did that ball cross the line ?) as we surrendered the game to them and did not purposefully chase a second goal to kill the game. Surely this cannot be right ? It is not an either/or situation. Either we keep it tight and win 1-0 or we attack and lose 4-3 ? No, attacking and winning CAN go together. A lot of teams 1-0 down near the end of a game sneak a point with a late goal - few 2-0 down do. So, there is the answer - it's the style of football, not the success. There have been many instances in many walks of life over the years of successful organisations that did not carry public pleasure or support for the way they acheived their success. After all, when we paint something, we all want it to dry with a perfect finish - but we don't want to watch it whilst it is happening ! |
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| B25 YEWTREE LOYAL | Feb 28 2007, 02:48 PM Post #2 |
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Alex Govan
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only three teams will look back at promotion from this division at the seasons end,21 others will reflect on their respective failiure,some may look back and think back to the time they outplayed birmingham and wish they could have found that form in the rest of their games.......promotion is our solitary aim this year and if the missing fans fail to turn up for fear of lack of entertainment in the words of another poster on here........ i dont really care any more because i still go to the games........... :Blues: |
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| k-bek | Feb 28 2007, 02:57 PM Post #3 |
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Mikael Forssell
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And when the others miss out on the ultimate prize finishing behind Blues they'll start next season thinking "do whatever it takes to get promoted and worry about the entertainment aftewards." Some will never be happy. Every single person demanded promotion regardless of anything else. Will people really be more happy if we play pretty, entertaining football and mis out? NO. |
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| B25 YEWTREE LOYAL | Feb 28 2007, 03:11 PM Post #4 |
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Alex Govan
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K-bek i would love style,flair expressive free flowing passing and moving beautiful football and can remember clapping us off the park after a 4-0 defeat by arsenal having seen us play some of the very best football i have ever seen.Many of my posts on here relate to strengths and weaknesses of the team and some of the sterile performances but im no fool and accept that the result is above and beyond any other requirement. as i have said elsewhere to be unhappy in victory shame on you,gutted in defeat i share that pain,frustrated with performance i hear you :Blues: |
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| Bournville Blue | Feb 28 2007, 05:21 PM Post #5 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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abblue... you're absolutely spot on. Seems that the players' whole attitude and approach changes in relation to the score... We go one up and then it's desperation not to concede - go one down and it's like there's an air of inevitability that we're going to struggle!! If ever we get to any degree of comfort, like take a two goal lead, we're quite likely to go on and win three or four because the players relax. I reckon Bruce has put so much pressure on the 'win at all cost' approach... even if it's a scrappy 1-0, that will do!! I also think that behind the scenes, he puts too much pressure on the strikers to score. As we get closer to the end of the season it's only going to get worse! :o |
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| Bookemdanno | Feb 28 2007, 06:46 PM Post #6 |
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Sam, gotta knock heads with you again! You know what i'm like! :P Theres always going to be a disagreement over football styles of play. But.....Its not about pretty, entertaining football. Not for me anyhow, god knows you know that chuck. Its about, fast, direct, effective football. Hitting teams when the oppourtunities present themselves. Why can't we take the game to others? We could have been 3 nil down against Sunderland at half time. They hit us at every oppourtunity, and we were wobbling. - Luckily or good defending, we survived. When we get possession, unless McSheff gets the ball, we delay and wait for the defense to get back in position!! Do we go for the jugular? Go after teams? We just seem content to grind things out. Normally, our only plan is knock it to the wingers, or hoof. Through balls anyone? Do opta do stats on amount of balls forward from central midfielders? Is no suprise, when our poor results have occurred when McSheff and Larsson have been snuffed out. Thats our only outlet. How about attacking as a unit? How about a central midfielder picking up scraps on the edge of the area and shooting? The pace we have upfront, why can't we play through balls? Why can't a central midfielder run at is opposite number? Or offer support in attack? Luton, Southend, we could have won as we were in these games, but failed to pass the ball properly, keep possesion and break teams down. Bruce could have changed this up, but chose to remain defensive, and even worse when chansing the game, swapped his defensive mdielders ofr another two? We need to get as many points possible, so you can get the automatic spot. We don't want the playoffs. Any team can beat anyone in those stages, and normally the better attacking sides get through. You can try and grind out as many games as possible, but sooner or later you come unstuck. I just sense Barnsley all over again if we end up in the playoffs. If we start finishing teams off when we have them on the ropes theres less chance of the drawing, and who knows, our team might just get some momentum, like sunderland seem to have got with their fast attacking football. Since Christmas its really only been moments of magic from the odd star player. We haven't looked effective, but we've got the results. Which don't get me wrong, our league position is good. |
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| vicar in a tutu | Feb 28 2007, 07:30 PM Post #7 |
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Whenever Blues have found themselves top of the table this season, only then will many people on here point out that..."The table doesn't lie" Well, I think that's true. But then I also believe we have no right at all to be anywhere near the top of the table come the end of the season, we have survived this season (or rather Bruce has) on fortunate 1-0 victories and scrappy performances. Teams that win leagues, win them by playing with a certain conviction and ruthless belief in their style of play. Can anybody truly tell me what our style of play is? The table doesn't lie and it won't be lieing at the end of the season when we are nowhere near the top of it! A decent manager would turn our squad into real champions, we have a team of good players who want to play attacking football, this however is way out of Brucies vocabulary I fear? |
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| proccy_blues | Feb 28 2007, 07:51 PM Post #8 |
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Joe Bradford
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you're right - you're no mathematician abblue |
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| abblue | Mar 1 2007, 01:51 PM Post #9 |
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Frank Worthington
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How so ? |
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| jmsblues | Mar 1 2007, 02:18 PM Post #10 |
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Mikael Forssell
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if u look at wba atm they look like winning every game by at least 2 goals! |
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| Joe | Mar 1 2007, 03:37 PM Post #11 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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Do we really expect to be playing free flowing football that's nice on the eye? No. It's unrealistic. You cut your cloth accordingly. Our strengths are defence, organisation with a dash of flair through Bendtner/McSheffrey and whoever. Albion can play like they do because they have the players to do it. They kept all their PL players, we sold four of ours, one retired, and another Forssell is injured. The rest were released because they were past it. |
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| stevio11 | Mar 1 2007, 04:37 PM Post #12 |
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Alex Govan
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Sorry to disagree with certain people but the style of football all season has been very poor. If Sunderland and the baggies can play better football, then why can't we.Why do we always look like the away team when we play at home,no wonder our crowd's are rubbish,it's not just the high prices. 1-0 agansit Leeds was a poor result agansit a very poor team and whilst it got us to the top of the League again, are we really happy watching on at mistake after mistake. I really wish we could play the ball around a bit and keep it on the ground, we always used to do well then and win well as well. :Blues: |
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| DEdblue | Mar 1 2007, 09:08 PM Post #13 |
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Paul Tait
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point is we can play well against the top teams and get points,against the bottom we have struggled, so a win against Leeds [Aye-Up] was a great bonus............ If you went on Saturday against Hull you would agree a great bonus :LMAO: |
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