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Midfield
Topic Started: Mar 5 2007, 12:52 AM (385 Views)
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Fred Pickering
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Our midfield play is chronic. I love the players clem, fabrice, seb and sheff, but how we miss someone who can thread a ball to the forwards. We havent seen the best of Vine or Jerome yet. Midfield is toooooooooooo defensive and in need of a creative injection. Kilkenny? Loaneee?
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webstarblue
Mar 5 2007, 12:52 AM
Our midfield play is chronic. I love the players clem, fabrice, seb and sheff, but how we miss someone who can thread a ball to the forwards. We havent seen the best of Vine or Jerome yet. Midfield is toooooooooooo defensive and in need of a creative injection. Kilkenny? Loaneee?

Kilkenny will not start because Bruce isn't overly impressed..........can't say I've seen anything to rave about..........gets pushed around and knocked off the ball far too much for my liking.
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Fred Pickering
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bluess7
Mar 5 2007, 12:55 AM
webstarblue
Mar 5 2007, 12:52 AM
Our midfield play is chronic. I love the players clem, fabrice, seb and sheff, but how we miss someone who can thread a ball to the forwards. We havent seen the best of Vine or Jerome yet. Midfield is toooooooooooo defensive and in need of a creative injection. Kilkenny? Loaneee?

Kilkenny will not start because Bruce isn't overly impressed..........can't say I've seen anything to rave about..........gets pushed around and knocked off the ball far too much for my liking.

But who else do we have that can thread the ball through?
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webstarblue
Mar 5 2007, 12:56 AM
bluess7
Mar 5 2007, 12:55 AM
webstarblue
Mar 5 2007, 12:52 AM
Our midfield play is chronic. I love the players clem, fabrice, seb and sheff, but how we miss someone who can thread a ball to the forwards. We havent seen the best of Vine or Jerome yet. Midfield is toooooooooooo defensive and in need of a creative injection. Kilkenny? Loaneee?

Kilkenny will not start because Bruce isn't overly impressed..........can't say I've seen anything to rave about..........gets pushed around and knocked off the ball far too much for my liking.

But who else do we have that can thread the ball through?

Nobody really........Dunn wasn't replaced.
Bruce believes you need two grafters in the middle to win the ball.......the wingers and strikers do the rest.
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djmmusic
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Bruce did try a more balanced attacking midfield - clem and danns. This was at Hull. Say no more.

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Geoff Horsfield
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Bruce did try a more balanced attacking midfield - clem and danns. This was at Hull. Say no more.


That was ONE game! IMO our midfield were just as woeful in the first half today as againast Hull, just like they were Woeful against Southened, where there were THREE defensive mids.

NOt saying Danns is neccessarily the option, but to judge them on one game is ridiculous - if we applied the same logic to every player, we would never have a settled first 11.

Today it was clear - as it has been for most of the season - that when the pressure is on, we have nobody to put their foot on the ball. One way of defending is making sure YOU rettain possession, not just hacking the opposition all of the time.
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charliedontsurf
Mar 5 2007, 08:40 AM
foot on the ball.

on that pitch? mentallist....imo
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Paul Tait
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To be honest i agree that our central mid is too defensive but we aint got anybody strong enough to play that role Dunn was the only player that could. I do however agree when Seb and McSheff hit form again as i personally think they have played poor in the last 3-4 games we look a far better side. In this league you cant really have flair players in the middle of the park its too physical especially for us, teams know we can play so they make it a right battle so we need players in there that can battle. Things aint too bad not played well i dont think as a team for the last 5games and still sit top of the league. A win against Derby and a win against WBA we would be 3/4's nearly there thats what we have to aim for
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Paul Tait
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I can't see what people see in Kilkenny. He's way too lightweight and he goes missing for most of the game
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nrlawton
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Mar 5 2007, 12:19 PM
I can't see what people see in Kilkenny. He's way too lightweight and he goes missing for most of the game

when have you seen him play enough to come to that conclusion, you cant base a player on 5 minutes and 5 minutes there its ridiculous.
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nrlawton
Mar 5 2007, 12:22 PM
Bluenose4life
Mar 5 2007, 12:19 PM
I can't see what people see in Kilkenny. He's way too lightweight and he goes missing for most of the game

when have you seen him play enough to come to that conclusion, you cant base a player on 5 minutes and 5 minutes there its ridiculous.

Well when have you seen him enough to know he is good enough to start a game. I'm basing it on what I've seen so far. I'm also going to trust the backroom staff on this who see him day in day out
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I can't see what people see in Kilkenny. He's way too lightweight and he goes missing for most of the game




I think this concept of lightweisght is a rather spurious one. I think you will find that teams in this league are not complelety full of big blokes. Furthermore, Kilkenny has OTHER qualities - if all we want is a group of battlers to stick against other teams battlers, then there will often be a non-creative stalemate.

There are teams out there who are able to make use of their creative talents, and whilst Kilkennty may not be ideal for every game, to discount him simply because he is not another headless hcicken midfielder would be counter productive IMO.
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well i wont trust the backroom staff (ie.Bruce), kilkenny comes under the category of too attacking for bruces liking just like Danns, and dunn and jarosik (both were played out on the left because they were apparentely to attacking for centre mid just like Kilkenny now.
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jonesy10
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I Dont know if any one else on this thread went to the Blues forum at longbridge last thursday. Clemo and Sheffers was there and they both said down the wings is terrible so i was thinking wile at home and with the wings so bad and sheffers (as he stated that it was difficult for him to run at defenders) to move into a more centreal role as it was pointed out to be one of the best parts to run and play with the ball which mcshefrey is best at and that will then give us the ability to have mcshefrey in a more free role shooting and by far certainly creating more chances. Dont know what any one else thinks but worth a try and maybe drop muamba from the centre.
People are now probaly thinking who will then go and slot into left midfield...
well as we was told at the forum at the longbride Seb likes to swap sides and play on the left and cut is so he could then move across. This wil give us then chance to play more attacking football. Oh yh by the way the right side of midfield will then be filled by Dj or even give danns a run out from the start and through out the game mcshefers, danns and larsson can swap postions and keep the opponents guessing instead of knowing what scoming.
just a thought.... might help us create a few more chances and also keep us strong defensivly
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Kilkenny could be our Jason Koumas. The problem, is Bruce prefers his defensive duo in the middle. Its Brucies choice at the end of the day. He has throughout his reign here. Why was Dunn always shifted to the wing, yet Blackburn keep playing him in the centre?

The other problem, is Kilkenny has a social behaviour like Koumas, or so the rumour has it.
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Having complained about DJ for 3 years now I have to say,DJ told to go forward centre-mid along side Clemence, would creat balls for Bendy and Vine.............
Just that Bruce& Black's tatics have held him back... :banghead:
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Been pointing out on here for a while Brucie's fear of youth players. It's almost pathological. Kilkenny is a superb player whenever i've seen him and definitely deserves a chance. Thing is with playing a player like that though is that Larsson and McSheff are attacking on either side, it would leave the DM exposed. Personally i would have McSheff, Muamba, Kilkenny and DJ given a try, as long as someone tells Muamba that he mustn't try and pass forward EVER because he's always giving it away. I think this would leave us with quite a fluid midfield, which would be more effective and still has 2 defensive units and 2 attacking units.
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nrlawton
Mar 5 2007, 12:22 PM
Bluenose4life
Mar 5 2007, 12:19 PM
I can't see what people see in Kilkenny. He's way too lightweight and he goes missing for most of the game

when have you seen him play enough to come to that conclusion, you cant base a player on 5 minutes and 5 minutes there its ridiculous.

agreed until he gets a few competative games under his belt who knows how he will turn out.

look what happened to aj never got a look,sold as a part ex-change.

now playing in the premier and for england.

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neil danns for me would be the box to box midfielder, when he has come on he always impresses me ,and ok he had a bad game at hull but everyone did really, and yet bruce has thrown danns out of the 16 for the last 2 games becaue of the hull game as if to say i told you so about playing someone attacking centre mid. i hope he gets a chance if we go up
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I would rather see danns & muamba/clemence in the middle, isn't it funny that dunn is playing regular for blackburn? i feel gutted would love him in the team!
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