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| Mehdi Nafti; i like him | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 6 2007, 05:25 PM (270 Views) | |
| Armadillo2006 | Mar 6 2007, 05:25 PM Post #1 |
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Jose Dominguez
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i am a big fan of nafti, yet there seems to be some negativity towards him from the fans. i think he does well when he plays and i personally would rather have him then muamba. could some tell me why there is negativity towards him. |
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| bornblues64 | Mar 6 2007, 05:29 PM Post #2 |
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Mikael Forssell
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I think he needs a run of games to recapture his form and fitness after his serious injury, i for one was impressed when he played in the Prem and IF we go up i think he will be a great asset, trouble is the way the team are going at the moment Bruce can only select eleven but i am with you i like the bloke, hope he stays next year/season |
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| tevets | Mar 6 2007, 05:38 PM Post #3 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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I also like Nafti but I think to get the best out of him we need an attacking central midfielder to play next to him. I think he get stick for the same sort of reasons DJ does, as in often played in not the best line up / position to get the best out of him. |
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| bluess7 | Mar 6 2007, 05:40 PM Post #4 |
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Frank Worthington
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Personally think he is one of the worst players I have seen in a Blues shirt....but it's only my opinion. I don't ever recall him making a forward pass, and he seems to give the ball away rather too frequently for my liking........and I know I am not alone in my thinking. A poor mans' Damien Johnson................... :LMAO: |
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| Armadillo2006 | Mar 6 2007, 05:43 PM Post #5 |
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Jose Dominguez
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i couldnt disagree more with u tbh, think he rarely givs it away nd keeps possesion well dnt know wot ure on bout. |
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| bluess7 | Mar 6 2007, 05:53 PM Post #6 |
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Frank Worthington
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Do you watch on a regular basis.......the guy is a crab !!!! And I challenge you to watch and count how many times he gives the ball away......you'll give up counting in the end.........but like I said..........it's about opinions.......I heard the most ridiculous thing on here the other day saying Matty Sadler was poor.........I think he's a Blues captain in the making.....opinions !!!! |
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| jersey lester | Mar 6 2007, 06:00 PM Post #7 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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slide rule ball to put in bendtner for goal early season :rolleyes: :whistle: |
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| pgmayhew | Mar 6 2007, 06:10 PM Post #8 |
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Steve Claridge
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I think that one thing that counts against him is sometimes he tries to be too clever than being simple and clinical. He has some great touches but is sometimes guilty of giving away possession when a straightforward pass would be a far better option. I agree with the posts that he deserves some more outings. The trouble is that some of his performances when he has started the game have been pretty dire. He was bullied out of it against southend and had to be subbed. This is not necessarily a reflection that he is a poor player. He was simply poor because he needed match sharpness and hadn't been playing much. The trouble is that when you have a bad game it can prejudice your chances of getting another. Maybe Bruce should give him a bit more patience the way he does with Jonty. Given that we may not have muamba next season it would be prudent to have a ready made replacement waiting in the wings and nafti can be that. But then again I think the likes of Kilkenny and Danns deserve more as well but they are all central midfield players and usually there are only 2 places for that. |
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| tidgy_bcfc | Mar 6 2007, 06:15 PM Post #9 |
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come on you blue boys
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and thats all he has done. the kid is rubbish but id back him cause he is a blues player |
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| nrlawton | Mar 6 2007, 06:17 PM Post #10 |
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Frank Worthington
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he looked good before he got injured and when we are in the Premiership, but hasnt showed the same this season I think maybe its because he is more suited to the premiership than the championship or maybe he is taking a while to get back to his best after a season out with injury. This season I think Muamba and clem deserve to be the 2 starting in central midfield based on performances this season. |
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| bluess7 | Mar 6 2007, 06:25 PM Post #11 |
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Frank Worthington
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Well said :applause: |
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| tevets | Mar 6 2007, 08:09 PM Post #12 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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I agree, up to a point, that he does give the ball away too often at the moment. But that is not because he is a bad player. His strength is sitting in front of the back four breaking up play. To be effective he needs the right players around him, and packing the rest of the midfield with defensive players doesn’t help anyone. I know we are not talking talent wise like for like but Nafti is a similar player to Makelele in that he doesn’t get forward that often, nor generally rakes 80 yard balls to the feet of attackers. What he does do though is stop the opposition and then plays the simple ball to a more attacking player, something we seldom play with. Because of our system this inevitably means he has to either play the ball sideways, hoof it or dwell on the ball in the vain hope someone will make a run. As with a lot of our midfielders this means he looks crab like and loses the ball too often. All of that though doesn’t make him a bad player, just another one who we don’t play to his strengths. I do sometimes wonder why we buy some of the players we do, knowing they won’t be played in their normal roles. We just seem to get players because they are available and hope they can adapt rather than have a strategy and identify the right players before we buy them. |
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| pgmayhew | Mar 6 2007, 09:44 PM Post #13 |
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Steve Claridge
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We bought nafti when we were in the Prem. At that time we were employing a different strategy and bringing in different kinds of players. The point is surely that new players have been brought in that do not compliment the likes of nafti, not that nafti was brought in and forced to play in a particular way. The team has changed an awful lot since nafti arrived. And look at the players we have identified and brought in. You're not going to tell me that mcsheffrey and larsson were bad acquisitions!! A change of scenery calls for different strategy and that is now "young and hungry". You have t put things into context. Nafti looked good in the Prem. But then it was a different setup. And no matter how highly anyone might rate nafti, he's not going to be the player we build a team around and bring players in just to accomodate him. Surely a professional footballer can adapt his play to fit into a new system. I think nafti can and will, he will just need to take his opportunities a lot better!! |
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| BlueBrummie | Mar 6 2007, 09:56 PM Post #14 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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I'm a big Nafti fan, hope he stays at the club for many years to come, top lad! |
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| tevets | Mar 6 2007, 11:13 PM Post #15 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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I accept most of what you say but my point is we have a history of buying players and not playing them in the role they were playing in at their previous clubs, they then get a lot of stick and obviously confidence goes. For example, Gronks was brought in at the same time as Mario and had had a good relationship and worked well together at Chelsea, we also brought in Gray a left winger. What happened? Gronks was switched wings and Gray was pushed to left back, it was a farce with neither knowing whether to go forward or stay back. What happened both players a slated, lose confidence and are finished at the club. Did we get the best out of Dunn or Jiri stuck on the wing, not their natural positions? There are so many examples. Obviously we have had successes, some amazing ones, but to be honest I feel we have had too many failures. I just feel we don’t take enough trouble in identifying what player we need for a particular position. You certainly don’t seem to see so many failures at other clubs. We have spent a lot of money but I wouldn’t always say wisely. When you look at the likes of Bolton they seem to find players who just fit into their system, not buy them and hope they can adapt. |
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| pgmayhew | Mar 6 2007, 11:24 PM Post #16 |
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Steve Claridge
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I agree that we have had some dud signings in the past. And I will agree with you that players have been played out of position but I put that down to Brucie. I don't think the likes of gray were ever brought in to play left back. He was played there as cover because we had nobody else. The fact that we should have brought in a left back at that time is another argument. That I think is a failing of which Bruce and the club are much more guilty of. What it seems to come down to is Bruce playing people out of position because we have bought too many players for one position (for example central midfield) and not enough for others. On that much I agree with you. Neil Danns is probably the best example of this type of mentality. But I would still say that the majority of players are brought in for specified positions, it is seemingly a case of "needs must" and occasional flaws by Bruce that lie behind the playing of players out of position. |
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