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Bendtner; lazy (Merged)
Topic Started: Mar 20 2007, 11:17 AM (731 Views)
bluenosescotland
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Martin Taylor
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As we have had a few games on t.v recently i have seen how blues have been playing. as i live far away i dont see them as often as i would like to. now i have realised that bentnar is one of the lazyest players we have. he just stands admiring his work when he makes a good pass, thats if he completes the pass. he gets pushed off the ball far to easy for a lad of 6ft 2inc. what do you all think?

feed.back :banner: :Blues:
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Totally and utterly agree with you pal. In recent weeks, the rest of the team seem to have got a little bit of fight back (though still not enough IMO), but Bendtner is still a lazy fker. The kid has got undoubted talent, and he is the kind of player who can conjure up magic from nowhere every so often, but if i was Bruce, I'd drop him for a couple so he realises he's not undroppable, and maybe he'll start looking like he did at the start of the season, in the most vital stage of the year. :banner:
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I started a thred like this a week ago and was shot down by people saying stuff like 'what do you expect for a lad of only 18'.

Well what I expect is for the lad to realise he is living a dream and pull his weight, pull his finger out, and get stuck in. Thing is he doesn't give a $h1t about Blues cos in a few weeks he is off back to Arsenal, where he will be just another obscure wannabe.

WE are doing HIM a favour, not the other way around as he obviously thinks.

But what do I know, I have only followed the grafter sides of Blues since 1970, there are experts in their teens who know more than me and who will troll out the usual rubbish as mentioned already.

The fools...
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Baybluesman
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Last Sunday epitomised his current level of performance, he should have really got at Sodji from the start, but he never did and allowed him to settle, finishing up in the lads pocket.
Note the difference when CJ came on, suddenly holes appeared everywhere in the Albions back four, just wished that SB had changed it earlier.
Sure the kids got bags of talent but he's got combine that with effort to further our cause in this promotion run in, not just use it to showcase his potential...
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heath123
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it's not just that he is lazy, he isn't a team player i remember when macca was on he's hattrick and bendtner wanted to take the pen, also if the ball isn't played into he's feet he don't move. play jerome and vine with dj on the bench
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SpokesT
Mar 20 2007, 11:52 AM
I started a thred like this a week ago and was shot down by people saying stuff like 'what do you expect for a lad of only 18'.

Well what I expect is for the lad to realise he is living a dream and pull his weight, pull his finger out, and get stuck in. Thing is he doesn't give a $h1t about Blues cos in a few weeks he is off back to Arsenal, where he will be just another obscure wannabe.

WE are doing HIM a favour, not the other way around as he obviously thinks.

But what do I know, I have only followed the grafter sides of Blues since 1970, there are experts in their teens who know more than me and who will troll out the usual rubbish as mentioned already.

The fools...

Or opinions as some people call them......

Bendtner has been extremely lazy for me yes and he needs pulling up about it. I dont think its a bad idea to drop him just before the end of the season and hopefully get some fire back in his belly. But, the whole time he's been here he's never been a fighter or real grafter. He's one of those players who's class is above all that and shouldnt put his foot in where others maybe would. Being lazy doesn't make you a bad player - Thierry Henry for me is the laziest player in the Prem.
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heath123
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yes put if you give henry the ball he dosen't give it away cheap and also henry scores you 20 goals a season.
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SpokesT
Mar 20 2007, 11:52 AM
I started a thred like this a week ago and was shot down by people saying stuff like 'what do you expect for a lad of only 18'.


The same that you get from Muamba.....he isn't the finished article but he puts in 100% when he plays, he chases everything, and puts in tackles that could possibly get himself injured. So why does Bentner think he doesnt have to?

Bentner can do great things, but how many times a game does he do them? Once maybe twice, why does this get him the first team start every week? Hes just passing a season before he goes back to the team he really wants to play for! Jerome, DJ and Vine want to do it for Blues much more than he does!

Blues fans aren't used to players that don't wear their heart on their sleeve and give 100% for the cause. He may help us get promoted but he would never be a Blues player.
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brumjaep
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heath123
Mar 20 2007, 12:30 PM
yes put if you give henry the ball he dosen't give it away cheap and also henry scores you 20 goals a season.

Hard to prove obviously but stick Bendtner up front for Arsenal and IMO he'd defo score 20 a season too. Henry has many a goal put on a plate for him.
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heath123
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don't even try to compare bendtner to henry

henry
premiership winner
fa cup winner
player of the year
world cup winner
the list goes on and on

bentder
11 goals in the championship
and a couple of denmark caps
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Bendtner is a brilliant, brilliant footballer and in ten years time you will all be proud to have seen him on our pitch, in our shirt. And just because he isn't Geoff Horsfield he gets slated.

If we went up and bought in some of the "top class" players that are being talked about, some of you lot will have hernias complaining about the lack of effort they put in after they don't complete ten miles of running in each half.
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heath123
Mar 20 2007, 12:36 PM
don't even try to compare bendtner to henry

henry
premiership winner
fa cup winner
player of the year
world cup winner
the list goes on and on

bentder
11 goals in the championship
and a couple of denmark caps

Great. And how much of that had Henry won when he was 18?

Answer. Nothing. Certainly wasn't an international, and had only just signed a professional contract.
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heath123
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he made his debut for monaco aged 19 scoring 3 goals in 8 games.
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heath123
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1 x French League : 1996-1997
2 x English Championship : 2001-2002, 2003-2004
2 x FA Cup : 2001-2002, 2002-2003
1 x World Cup : 1998
1 x European Championship : 2000
4 x English League Top Scorer : 2001-2002, 2003-2004,
2004-2005, 2005-2006

if bendtner wins half of that i will be shocked
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heath123
Mar 20 2007, 12:45 PM
he made his debut for monaco aged 19 scoring 3 goals in 8 games.

So you're already saying Bendtner is a year ahead of the great Thierry Henry. He already has some of the biggest clubs in Europe interested in his signature, and all we can do is moan that he isn't making tackles every fifteen seconds. Madness.
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heath123
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do you personnal no the presidents of lyon or ac milan no ,stop reading the sun and live in the real world.
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I would probably start Jerome ahead of Bendtner, because we own Jerome and you generally know that your going to get 172.64% effort out of him every game, technically Bendtner is amazing but he doesn't do enough for me.
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If people really do not rate bendtner that is cool - I do not rate DJ, but others do.

What DOES make me despair is guff about how he will never be a real tue Blue player and all such bull! Calling hinm lazy is one thing - saying that a player with bags of talent will never be accepted unless he becomes a talentless grafter is another. :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
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franscar
Mar 20 2007, 12:38 PM
Bendtner is a brilliant, brilliant footballer and in ten years time you will all be proud to have seen him on our pitch, in our shirt. And just because he isn't Geoff Horsfield he gets slated.

If we went up and bought in some of the "top class" players that are being talked about, some of you lot will have hernias complaining about the lack of effort they put in after they don't complete ten miles of running in each half.

:applause: :applause: Well said, there are people on here who call for Blues to play a more entertaining expansive style of play, then when we get players with talent to turn games in an instant etc they get slated because they dont run around like headless chickens for 90 minutes or challenge for every 50-50 ball like some demented nutter,

For example Gray, for me one of the most talented players we have with pace to burn and just because he doesnt tackle like Robbie Savage or run round the pitch after lost causes he is slated.

Bendtner is a typical "european" style player one who has been encouraged to use his skill and natural ability on the football pitch and not to be your "100% english battler"

What really gets me is that Bendtner is slated for low workrate,

Damien Johnson has a fantastically high work rate and gets slated for his percieved lack of skill etc.

So i guess what Bruce should be looking for is a player who is as skilful as Ronaldinho, scores wonder goals, can beat 3 players with a drop of the shoulder a la Dugarry, but can also graft and tackle back for 90 minutes, can be converted into a defender or midfielder at a moments notice?

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acjboyle
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When I play football, I play with a bunch of mates on a 5 a side astro turf court on a thursday after a day at work where I work for 9 - 10 hours sometimes.

What separates me from Bendnter? I am 11 years older than him with limited ability an limited fitness. Yet, I run aroud like a headless chicken chasing every ball that goes near me. It's just a knock about, but I play like it's the FA Cup final. Why don't Bendnter show a bit more urgency and passion and get involved, stuck in more. I don't care that he's young, in fact that surely means he should be doing more on the field, young and hungry as brucie depicted
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Sameth
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I hope Nik doesn't read this forums. He was always dropping back to help defend against the Baggies towards the end. He's back for corners, and wins a lot of balls in the air.

There's no pleasing some people. Just because he doesn't have the ball doesn't mean he isn't putting in the graft.
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Malcom Page
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i have read various things

lazy etc !!

i dont agree he is lazy

i do however think he needs to be RESTED

so the question is

rest him or not ?
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once mcsheffery is back i think he could do with a bit of a rest... only a little one though :P
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heath123
Mar 20 2007, 12:53 PM
do you personnal no the presidents of lyon or ac milan no ,stop reading the sun and live in the real world.

Ah right, so you're saying that he's not been a target for those clubs simply because I don't know the Presidents of Lyon and Milan personally? And he's not as good as Thierry Henry, ergo he's not good enough to play for Blues? Is that the theme of your argument? Because, frankly, it's about as worthwhile as the argument that because he doesn't steam into challenges every fifteen seconds that he's worse than Dele Adebola.

Thierry Henry is better than any striker to ever pull on the Blues jersey. Maybe we should stop lauding the achievements of Joe Bradford, Trevor Francis or Bob Latchford because they don't measure up to Henry as well?

If Bendtner was on the halfway line making tackles, is he then expected to be taking on three players on the edge of the box five seconds later? Then making another tackle and doing the same thing again?

If Bendtner had been born in Small Heath and had come through the academy he'd be worshipped at this football club. He will not be easy to replace next season, whatever division we're in.
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I do know a striker, even though he is not a 20goal a season striker, and doesnt have lightning pace who is better than henry to play for blues, Christophe Dugarry. Best player to play for blues, and has big achievements as well, but don't judge a player because he has won loads of trophies, there are some greats who have won less then not as good players.
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