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Andy Cole; *Merged Topics*
Topic Started: Mar 21 2007, 05:35 AM (4,726 Views)
BARNETTSrun
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doc nick
Mar 21 2007, 09:30 AM
BARNETTSrun
Mar 21 2007, 09:26 AM
doc nick
Mar 21 2007, 09:03 AM
bearblues
Mar 21 2007, 08:43 AM
What a waste of time, we don't need another aging striker on absurd money (Chris Sutton anyone?), as we already have 4 fit strikers! Bruce needs to figure out how to get the best out of those, rather than get someone else in! wtf**

last summer SB said he had learnt from past mistakes.

i see know evidence of this at all, that is of corse it is true.

i think SB should have more faith in the strikers he bought in the summer what sort of message does this send out to them.

good point doc

however

our goalscoring record at the moment aint good enough !

a short term to the end of the season would be fantastic IMO a bit of NOUS and experience to help the others around him

and it wont improve if you play players that have gone off the boil and have been ill will it.

bentdners not scoring so drop him to the bench give jerome a chance to prove what he can do.

he might only be 19 but his age was'nt a problem last season. **thumbup

bit diff scoring goals at cardiff - small club no pressure

to being invlved in a tight scrap for promotion

an older head may just help the likes of jerome

IMO bentdner needs a rest
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Sameth
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As it's tribalfootball and the sun, I wouldn't take much notice.

BUT

I do think Andy Cole would be a good loan move, we've lacked goals badly and he seems like a good punt for the last few games.
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jassyblue80
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people always take notice of these sites and scummy papers when it suites ;)
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Caveman49
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If true - he is a class player, but I also would question as to why we need another striker, unless of course, and maybe I am just being cynical, Forsell really is not fit, or even had a reoccurrence of his knee problems...
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Mar 21 2007, 09:53 AM
doc nick
Mar 21 2007, 09:30 AM
BARNETTSrun
Mar 21 2007, 09:26 AM
doc nick
Mar 21 2007, 09:03 AM
bearblues
Mar 21 2007, 08:43 AM
What a waste of time, we don't need another aging striker on absurd money (Chris Sutton anyone?), as we already have 4 fit strikers! Bruce needs to figure out how to get the best out of those, rather than get someone else in! wtf**

last summer SB said he had learnt from past mistakes.

i see know evidence of this at all, that is of corse it is true.

i think SB should have more faith in the strikers he bought in the summer what sort of message does this send out to them.

good point doc

however

our goalscoring record at the moment aint good enough !

a short term to the end of the season would be fantastic IMO a bit of NOUS and experience to help the others around him

and it wont improve if you play players that have gone off the boil and have been ill will it.

bentdners not scoring so drop him to the bench give jerome a chance to prove what he can do.

he might only be 19 but his age was'nt a problem last season. **thumbup

bit diff scoring goals at cardiff - small club no pressure

to being invlved in a tight scrap for promotion

an older head may just help the likes of jerome

IMO bentdner needs a rest

no i dont agree with that , if your a goal scorer then it doe'snt mater a jot who you play for .

i would imagin that there fans are as ambisious as ours.

you are of course right about the older head but in this case i cant see it working, cole is fourth choice for a reason and i can only asume that is because h cant score.

dont forget the goals are the same shape and size in the championship as they are in the prem :D
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Sameth
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From teamtalk

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Bruce, who played with Cole at Manchester United a decade ago, wants the quality and experience of the striker to supplement his young strikeforce in the push for promotion to the Premiership.

The 36-year-old has slipped down the pecking order at Fratton Park but Bruce has no doubts he can still be a potent force in the battle to finish in the top two of the Championship.

Bruce said: "We're hopeful of getting Andy on loan for the rest of the season. It's not done yet, but we've had talks and are hopeful of tying it up if we can sort out one or two loose ends.

"I played with Andy at Manchester United - although it was a long time ago - and he is a top professional who looks after himself. That's why he is still a Premiership player at 35 to 36.

"I just feel we need that extra bit of experience and quality up front.

"We have very young players at the top end of the pitch, people like Cameron Jerome, DJ Campbell and Nicklas Bendtner although they all have great potential.

"I just feel at this stage Andy could be of great benefit to us and hopefully, if he comes here, can help us to get across the finishing line in what is a very tight promotion battle with eight teams still in contention."

Birmingham have struggled for firepower in recent months and have not scored more than one goal in a league game since the 2-2 draw with Luton on December 29.
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Sam Tyler
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is cole going to be 5th choice striker or is he going to be picked ahead of vine, djc, jerome & bendtner ?
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scottks
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When Ian Rush was playing at Liverpool he was training young lads like Fowler and Owen about being a striker so whats with getting Andrew Cole in to do the same with our YOUNG strikers that we have. This will give them the opportunity to improve imensely.

When we do go up the last thing we want is for a lot of fans to moan that the strikers were too inexperienced to be in the prem! :Blues:
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Sameth
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Mar 21 2007, 10:20 AM
When Ian Rush was playing at Liverpool he was training young lads like Fowler and Owen about being a striker so whats with getting Andrew Cole in to do the same with our YOUNG strikers that we have. This will give them the opportunity to improve imensely.

When we do go up the last thing we want is for a lot of fans to moan that the strikers were too inexperienced to be in the prem! :Blues:

Completely agree, I think Jerome and Bendtner would benefit massively from a striker with some experience.
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Lucky
Mar 21 2007, 09:50 AM
acjboyle
Mar 21 2007, 10:48 AM
When he changed his name from Andy to Andrew he went sh!!!e. Just as long as he agrees to be called Andy again, then he's welcome at Blues!!

:applause:  :Blues:

when you were called Shirley you were much better. **thumbup

uh?

Shirley not?! :silence:
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jassyblue80
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Sameth
Mar 21 2007, 10:21 AM
scottks
Mar 21 2007, 10:20 AM
When Ian Rush was playing at Liverpool he was training young lads like Fowler and Owen about being a striker so whats with getting Andrew Cole in to do the same with our YOUNG strikers that we have. This will give them the opportunity to improve imensely.

When we do go up the last thing we want is for a lot of fans to moan that the strikers were too inexperienced to be in the prem! :Blues:

Completely agree, I think Jerome and Bendtner would benefit massively from a striker with some experience.

:applause:
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rob
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If he comes to us, would we have to start singing...

"Oh Andy Cole - he's no longer an Ar53h0le,
He's no longer an ........... etc"? :silence: :silence:


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richinio
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Typical of SB to look in totally the wrong place to solve our lack of goals problem.

So Cole (who has a reputation for needing about 4 chances to score 1 goal) is going to put away the plethora of chances we create from our defensive midfielders!

This, if it happens, is a ridiculous signing IMO.

We'll have 6 or 7 strikers and still won't be able to score many goals. Will SB then see where the issue is? No, probably not.

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hootanany
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Cole's To Coleshil anyone front page of the sunl
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brumjaep
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Its also on the BBC website now so must be pretty solid.

IMO a great move by Brucie if he can pull it off: Forsell is still a gamble, DJC simply isn't good enough, Bendtner is tired/'ill/or plane lazy at the minute and needs some competition/Jerome needs help with what to do with his raw ability/Vine isn't an out and out goalscorer

Andy Cole has always needed 3 or 4 chances before he scores a goal, but the amount of chances he seems to get is incredible. His movement as a striker is second to none and i think with McShef and Vine playing with him he will get plenty of chances to score plenty of goals.

Well done Brucie (please pull it off!!) KRO
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richinio
Mar 21 2007, 10:44 AM
Typical of SB to look in totally the wrong place to solve our lack of goals problem.

So Cole (who has a reputation for needing about 4 chances to score 1 goal) is going to put away the plethora of chances we create from our defensive midfielders!

This, if it happens, is a ridiculous signing IMO.

We'll have 6 or 7 strikers and still won't be able to score many goals. Will SB then see where the issue is? No, probably not.

thats a very good point.

is this a case of our forward not scoring or a case of them not getting the service.?

we do have people who have proved we cab score at this level but that has dried up since cristmass.

maybe it's a play maker we need and not another forward.
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jassyblue80
Mar 21 2007, 10:31 AM
Sameth
Mar 21 2007, 10:21 AM
scottks
Mar 21 2007, 10:20 AM
When Ian Rush was playing at Liverpool he was training young lads like Fowler and Owen about being a striker so whats with getting Andrew Cole in to do the same with our YOUNG strikers that we have. This will give them the opportunity to improve imensely.

When we do go up the last thing we want is for a lot of fans to moan that the strikers were too inexperienced to be in the prem! :Blues:

Completely agree, I think Jerome and Bendtner would benefit massively from a striker with some experience.

:applause:

A couple of important differences...

1. When Rush returned for his second spell at Anfield, Michael Owen was nine years old. He coached Owen & Fowler when they were in their early and mid-teens. DJ Campbell is 25, Rowan Vine is 24, Cameron Jerome is 20, even Bendtner (who isn't even our player) is 19.

2. Rush was at Anfield (in his second spell) for 8 years. Cole is on loan for a few weeks.

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BluenoseJoJo
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Strange decision - would have thought another natural winger would have been more appropriate so we can actually get some balls to our strikers without them having to come back out to the half-way line to bring it all the way themselves.

Still, he'll offer a wealth of experience to our young strikers who were, strangely enough, experienced enough to be banging 'em in for fun left right and centre before they played the Brucie game.

Welcome Andy - hope you can turn things around here.
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doc nick
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Still, he'll offer a wealth of experience to our young strikers who were, strangely enough, experienced enough to be banging 'em in for fun left right and centre before they played the Brucie game.


oh so true jojo **thumbup
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acjboyle
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From the Guardian website now too. They aren't about sensationalist tabloid hot gossip/rumours.


http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Story/0,,2039074,00.html

Shockingly: Despite lying second in the Championship, Birmingham have struggled for firepower in recent months and have not scored more than one goal in a league game since the 2-2 draw with Luton on December 29.


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Mar 21 2007, 08:43 AM
What a waste of time, we don't need another aging striker on absurd money (Chris Sutton anyone?), as we already have 4 fit strikers! Bruce needs to figure out how to get the best out of those, rather than get someone else in! wtf**

qft
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rob
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Brucey has confirmed interest on the Main Site .

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walker2831
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if his on 20k aweek for the final 10 weeks = £200k

if he scores one goal between now and then, that goal may = £50,000,000

i can see why SB may move for the lad!
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NO1BLUENOSE
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I heard from a someone at the club that we were trying to get Danny Murphy on loan but he wanted to fight for his place at Spurs.

If true at least it proves SB knows what our weaknesses are.
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Zico
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I'd be excited to see Cole play for us but how many strikers do we need to sign before Bruce realises that its our overly defensive midfield and hoof ball tactics that stops us from scoring plenty of goals and not our strikers being poor?
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