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Andy Cole; *Merged Topics*
Topic Started: Mar 21 2007, 05:35 AM (4,720 Views)
alfred E nueman
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Mikael Forssell
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May not be his last pay packet, but it'll be a good 'un from an old mate who knows people with deep pockets.

Again.

So, the big summer plan of young and hungry is collapsing about his ears, what does he do?

SPEND MONEY.

Weren't we losing £4million three months ago?
Weren't our attendances crippling the club financially?
Weren't our players and manager too expensive ?

Thank you Rowan, Mikael, DJC, Jerome...we can make do from here with two loanees. He might be on treble your wages, but you watch him rattle in three goals before May.

Bruce is clueless and desperate.

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Aussiebrum
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Alfred, you must be delighted - you have something new to moan and whinge about.

Happy times huh ?
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Oby
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alfred E nueman
Mar 22 2007, 01:48 AM
May not be his last pay packet, but it'll be a good 'un from an old mate who knows people with deep pockets.

Again.

So, the big summer plan of young and hungry is collapsing about his ears, what does he do?

SPEND MONEY.

Weren't we losing £4million three months ago?
Weren't our attendances crippling the club financially?
Weren't our players and manager too expensive ?

Thank you Rowan, Mikael, DJC, Jerome...we can make do from here with two loanees. He might be on treble your wages, but you watch him rattle in three goals before May.

Bruce is clueless and desperate.

Always look on the bright side of life, da doo da doo da doo da doo
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elseb
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I for one am very happy about this signing ;)
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proccy_blues
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Aussiebrum
Mar 22 2007, 02:33 AM
Alfred, you must be delighted - you have something new to moan and whinge about.

Happy times huh ?

:applause: well said aussie - out of the woodwork they come again....


my opinion is, you can never have too many goal-scorers and at the moment ours are not doing the job. if they learn just 2% of the predatory skills cole has they'll all benefit for it and so will we in the long run. whatever we pay him, you can't get that experience elsewhere for our young strikers - bring it on i say, and welcome to your new happy hunting ground andy!!
just stay away from blues chat (moaning corner) and you'll be ok.. **thumbup
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alfred E nueman
Mar 22 2007, 12:48 AM
May not be his last pay packet, but it'll be a good 'un from an old mate who knows people with deep pockets.

Again.

So, the big summer plan of young and hungry is collapsing about his ears, what does he do?

SPEND MONEY.

Weren't we losing £4million three months ago?
Weren't our attendances crippling the club financially?
Weren't our players and manager too expensive ?

Thank you Rowan, Mikael, DJC, Jerome...we can make do from here with two loanees. He might be on treble your wages, but you watch him rattle in three goals before May.

Bruce is clueless and desperate.

So exactly who should we have signed at this time of the season then?
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tevets
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Blues
Mar 22 2007, 08:17 AM
alfred E nueman
Mar 22 2007, 12:48 AM
May not be his last pay packet, but it'll be a good 'un from an old mate who knows people with deep pockets.

Again.

So, the big summer plan of young and hungry is collapsing about his ears, what does he do?

SPEND MONEY.

Weren't we losing £4million three months ago?
Weren't our attendances crippling the club financially?
Weren't our players and manager too expensive ?

Thank you Rowan, Mikael, DJC, Jerome...we can make do from here with two loanees. He might be on treble your wages, but you watch him rattle in three goals before May.

Bruce is clueless and desperate.

So exactly who should we have signed at this time of the season then?

Someone who creates chances would seem to have been the obvious deficiency to fill, seen as the reason for not scoring is the lack of chances we create.
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Bookemdanno
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Cole could prove to be a good signing. But once again, i ask, will we get him the ball?

Have our forwards, really been missing chances?

That good run we went on coincided, with chances being created and our forwards taking them. Since the Luton, game, we haven't been creating these chances. Christ, our midfield haven't been able to keep possession.
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charliedontsurf
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I am very happy with the signing of Cole and think Bruce has done well on that score.

However, the question remains: where will the chances for him to score come from? Go onto the BBC boards and there are fans of other clubs who are pointing out tht whilst they would like Cole, they think we look short of creativity in midfield. My Baggies and Wolves mates have said the same thing. When will we address the problems with creating chances for our myriad forwards to convert?
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Blooboy
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i reckon it's a squad boost and shouldn't be knocked. it's only a loan and Andy Cole is a Great player, if we get promotion it's money well spent IMO
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Hooby Groovy
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i reckon it's a squad boost and shouldn't be knocked. it's only a loan and Andy Cole is a Great player, if we get promotion it's money well spent IMO


My point being (and I agree with you on the above) is that should we be promoted, then I think you will find Mr Cole is on the promise of a nice fat 1 or 2 year Premiership contract.

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your probably right Hooby
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tevets
Mar 22 2007, 08:20 AM
Blues
Mar 22 2007, 08:17 AM
alfred E nueman
Mar 22 2007, 12:48 AM
May not be his last pay packet, but it'll be a good 'un from an old mate who knows people with deep pockets.

Again.

So, the big summer plan of young and hungry is collapsing about his ears, what does he do?

SPEND MONEY.

Weren't we losing £4million three months ago?
Weren't our attendances crippling the club financially?
Weren't our players and manager too expensive ?

Thank you Rowan, Mikael, DJC, Jerome...we can make do from here with two loanees. He might be on treble your wages, but you watch him rattle in three goals before May.

Bruce is clueless and desperate.

So exactly who should we have signed at this time of the season then?

Someone who creates chances would seem to have been the obvious deficiency to fill, seen as the reason for not scoring is the lack of chances we create.

Who?
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Wisel
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doc nick
Mar 21 2007, 10:03 AM
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Mar 21 2007, 08:43 AM
What a waste of time, we don't need another aging striker on absurd money (Chris Sutton anyone?), as we already have 4 fit strikers! Bruce needs to figure out how to get the best out of those, rather than get someone else in! wtf**

last summer SB said he had learnt from past mistakes.

i see know evidence of this at all, that is of corse it is true.

i think SB should have more faith in the strikers he bought in the summer what sort of message does this send out to them.

Get you arris in gear and score goals, or else....I guess.
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tevets
Mar 22 2007, 09:20 AM
Blues
Mar 22 2007, 08:17 AM
alfred E nueman
Mar 22 2007, 12:48 AM
May not be his last pay packet, but it'll be a good 'un from an old mate who knows people with deep pockets.

Again.

So, the big summer plan of young and hungry is collapsing about his ears, what does he do?

SPEND MONEY.

Weren't we losing £4million three months ago?
Weren't our attendances crippling the club financially?
Weren't our players and manager too expensive ?

Thank you Rowan, Mikael, DJC, Jerome...we can make do from here with two loanees. He might be on treble your wages, but you watch him rattle in three goals before May.

Bruce is clueless and desperate.

So exactly who should we have signed at this time of the season then?

Someone who creates chances would seem to have been the obvious deficiency to fill, seen as the reason for not scoring is the lack of chances we create.

The significant chances we get each game and do not convert argues with your point tevets. Look at he WBA game, we could have been 2 to 3 nil up before the baggies scored hade we been able to put the ball away.
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Wisel
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Mar 21 2007, 10:40 AM
webstar the irony is lost on you....

it wasnt a knock at taylor although if i wanted to its easy to list his faults,yes he does have good feet and can pass a ball...but guess what he shouldnt have to :banghead:

no self respecting midfield player would be happy to see a centre back strolling past him with the ball.but ours are more than happy to why is that i wonder ? feed.back

It happens all the time at the highest cl;ass of football. It is in fact only at the lower class clubs that the formations are rigid.
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Wisel
Mar 22 2007, 09:04 AM
doc nick
Mar 21 2007, 10:03 AM
bearblues
Mar 21 2007, 08:43 AM
What a waste of time, we don't need another aging striker on absurd money (Chris Sutton anyone?), as we already have 4 fit strikers! Bruce needs to figure out how to get the best out of those, rather than get someone else in! wtf**

last summer SB said he had learnt from past mistakes.

i see know evidence of this at all, that is of corse it is true.

i think SB should have more faith in the strikers he bought in the summer what sort of message does this send out to them.

Get you arris in gear and score goals, or else....I guess.

mmm but jerome and vine were prity good goal scorers at there previous clubs.

so what happened?

i think this is more of a service problem than a striker problem.

we have danns and killkeny but he dont play them.

i'm not against the signing of cole till the end of the season but all strikers need service and that is what is missing.

we will just have to wait and see what happens if he do'snt score then i wont be blaming cole.

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Give him a goo I reckon it could be good one
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everyone deserves a goo
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Mar 22 2007, 08:44 AM
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i reckon it's a squad boost and shouldn't be knocked. it's only a loan and Andy Cole is a Great player, if we get promotion it's money well spent IMO


My point being (and I agree with you on the above) is that should we be promoted, then I think you will find Mr Cole is on the promise of a nice fat 1 or 2 year Premiership contract.

and if he provides the goals within that 2 year period i see no harm in that - he keeps himself very fit, is very mobile and is a PROVEN prem goalscorer - where else do we have one of those, assuming we're writing the forss off?
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I can't believe people saying Bruce's plans to not have a squad of players after one last pay day is out the window because we sign one player over 30, during a period when virtually no one is available.

You can't just have young players, you need balance
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To those who think we should have got a defender instead - look at our last few games.

1. We haven't scored 2 in a game since against Luton in December.
2. We've had 5 clean sheets in the last 8 games.

Now I agree that on paper, we could have done with a replacement for Upson, but I think that Bruce doesn't want to disrupt the defence at this stage of the season. The defence ain't broke, so don't fix it! Our scoring record, despite the number of strikers, is not great. So I don't agree that Cole is not needed.

This is a fantastic signing IMO. :drink:
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Wisel - you are right that formations should not be rigid and that defenders can come forward.

Problem is, much of our midfield play is far too rigid: on far too many occassions, the bal gets forward to bendy/Vine/Jerome and there is nobody at all breaking forward to support them. Not having anybody breaking forward is as counterproductive as telling the whole midfield to stay up front.
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and if he provides the goals within that 2 year period i see no harm in that - he keeps himself very fit, is very mobile and is a PROVEN prem goalscorer - where else do we have one of those, assuming we're writing the forss off?


I guess its a matter of trust Proccy

You're right, in isolation Cole is a good short-term signing, it might even work over a couple of seasons.

My point is that, left unchecked, I have no confidence in Bruce to not see this as a tipping point and on promotion not to go out with a bulging transfer kitty and a shopping list that is largely made-up of the type of waster that performed so abysmally last season.

I'm sorry its so cynical, but my imagination sees Bruce with one eye on the league table and another on the phone numbers for Denis Irwin and Gary Pallister, in case they fancy another crack at the Premier league.
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Wisel
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We all have our different opinions I guess. On Danns and Kilkenny have you seen these players in the reserves? Not pulling up any trees.

I f you feel the problem is in he service, do you just discount the scoring opportunities that have happened in every game where we have not even hit the target, or less clear where you would have expected the striker to do better than he has.

Not entirely disagreeing BTW, I do think our midfield has needs for improvement as well. But that goes with every team and every player anyway.
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