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Karren Confirms 20% Cut In Seasons Ticket Prices; for ALL current season ticket holders
Topic Started: Mar 24 2007, 09:31 AM (1,562 Views)
Trueblood
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From yesterdays SUN

http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2007130594,00.html

"WE take The Sun campaign very seriously which is why I am delighted to confirm a 20 per cent cut next season for all current Birmingham City season ticket holders."

2 points

What about the people who have paid up front at the beginning of the season and in effect have given the club an interest free loan for 12 months to get this discount already. They could have kept there money and got the same discount anyway.

What about enticing new fans back if they are paying full whack without any discount then when your Middlesborough and Blackburn and the like come to St Andrews we are going to still have crowds of 16-20000 as many people will still not purchase a season ticket for nearly £500

In the article she is quoted as saying "Here’s an example: It is costing us the entire gate receipts, both home and away sections, from the three matches against Cardiff, Derby and Leeds to pay for the loan of striker Andy Cole from Portsmouth for the rest of the season."

a rough calculation of those 3 gates was an average of 23000 2 of them at £29 and one at vastly reduced rates.

So if it takes this much money for a 36 year old to play for us for 8 games, to attract players next season we need to fill the ground for every game even with TV money.

Blues need to attract the stay away fans back next season at prices working class people can afford....
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I think the 20% reduction for existing ST hilders is a proper recognition of two things.

The people who have paid full whack this term and who have seen various ticket pricing actions give people abetter deal than they had by buying the ST.

A reasonably good recognition of those who stood loyal to the club in providing up front cash for what needed to be done as we dropped out of the Premiership.
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stephenjames84
Mar 24 2007, 09:31 AM


What about enticing new fans back if they are paying full whack without any discount then when your Middlesborough and Blackburn and the like come to St Andrews we are going to still have crowds of 16-20000 as many people will still not purchase a season ticket for nearly £500


You didn't do much research to back up your statement there did you? Last season when we were in the premiership with prices the same or higher we attracted 28,000 against middlesboro and nearly 26000 against Blackburn -

our lowest attendance premiership game last season was 24000 -

and many people WILL purchase a season ticket at those prices because we will be back in the premiership - we attracted nearly 10000 extra "Fans" last time - the same will happen again this time..

Just being in the premiership will do it..price will not make a difference
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Mar 24 2007, 09:31 AM
"WE take The Sun campaign very seriously which is why I am delighted to confirm a 20 per cent cut next season for all current Birmingham City season ticket holders."

What, even those that renewed for this season and took the 10% cut in lieu of 20% next season ?
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If it wasen't for the long standing loyal supporters who decided to make a stand against the club by not renewing our s/t maybe just maybe none of you would be getting a 20% discount, just a thought. :whistle:
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Mar 24 2007, 10:18 AM
stephenjames84
Mar 24 2007, 09:31 AM


What about enticing new fans back if they are paying full whack without any discount then when your Middlesborough and Blackburn and the like come to St Andrews we are going to still have crowds of 16-20000 as many people will still not purchase a season ticket for nearly £500


You didn't do much research to back up your statement there did you? Last season when we were in the premiership with prices the same or higher we attracted 28,000 against middlesboro and nearly 26000 against Blackburn -

our lowest attendance premiership game last season was 24000 -

and many people WILL purchase a season ticket at those prices because we will be back in the premiership - we attracted nearly 10000 extra "Fans" last time - the same will happen again this time..

Just being in the premiership will do it..price will not make a difference

I hope your right. But wasn't the Middlesboro match vastly reduced prices?

As for season ticket renewal, Myself and 6 other members of my family had season tickets last season. This season 1 renewed, and before you say I jumped on the premiershipship bandwagon I had my season ticket since the mid 80's three of my group were between 6 and 13 the future lifeblood of this club.

I have asked how many out of the six of us wil be going back whatever division we are in next season and none of them will due to cost.

The club need to think about the cost to a family and make it affordable to everyone.

For the first time in my life as a Blues fan nearly 40 years I have attended more away matches than home matches this season as a lot of other clubs have a much fairer pricing system.

Also next season if I and others so desire a lot of our matches if we are in the premiership will be available on streaming on the net where I can watch near perfect pictures live for free......

Don't get me wrong I would much rather be supporting our club at St Andrews but I cant justify spending £450-500 to the rest of family.

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I thought I paid

Option 1. The fill whack fo this year on the agreement that 2007/8 was at 20% less. Otherwise,

Option 2. I could have got next season for 25% off if I'd paid both together.

This is more spin from the club. If they's said I wouldn't get the 20% there's be a letter from my solicitor in the post to them.
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Mar 24 2007, 10:09 AM


The people who have paid full whack this term and who have seen various ticket pricing actions give people abetter deal than they had by buying the ST.

Blatantly UNTRUE.

Current ST holders have not, are not nor will not be undersold by walk-up fans.

Any current ST holder, at the end of this season, will have paid less to see all their matches, than any other fan who took adavantage of the various "offers".

Some people may have only paid a fiver for one match, but so what, overall the people who stumped up the money last summer, still win out.

What we may be missing in all this spin, however, is that Blackburn, Bolton etc are reducing their prices ACROSS the board for EVERYONE next season.

Blues are pretending to join in this bandwagon by repeatingly saying they are reducing prices by 20% or 25%. But this is only to existing ST holders, not new purchasers.

Big Difference.
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Mar 24 2007, 11:56 AM
Wisel
Mar 24 2007, 10:09 AM


The people who have paid full whack this term and who have seen various ticket pricing actions give people abetter deal than they had by buying the ST.

Blatantly UNTRUE.

Current ST holders have not, are not nor will not be undersold by walk-up fans.

Any current ST holder, at the end of this season, will have paid less to see all their matches, than any other fan who took adavantage of the various "offers".

Some people may have only paid a fiver for one match, but so what, overall the people who stumped up the money last summer, still win out.

What we may be missing in all this spin, however, is that Blackburn, Bolton etc are reducing their prices ACROSS the board for EVERYONE next season.

Blues are pretending to join in this bandwagon by repeatingly saying they are reducing prices by 20% or 25%. But this is only to existing ST holders, not new purchasers.

Big Difference.

correct letsby and you could find that the gates remain the same as this because fans wont get a discount.
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Mar 24 2007, 12:56 PM
Wisel
Mar 24 2007, 10:09 AM


The people who have paid full whack this term and who have seen various ticket pricing actions give people abetter deal than they had by buying the ST.

Blatantly UNTRUE.

Current ST holders have not, are not nor will not be undersold by walk-up fans.

Any current ST holder, at the end of this season, will have paid less to see all their matches, than any other fan who took adavantage of the various "offers".

Some people may have only paid a fiver for one match, but so what, overall the people who stumped up the money last summer, still win out.

What we may be missing in all this spin, however, is that Blackburn, Bolton etc are reducing their prices ACROSS the board for EVERYONE next season.

Blues are pretending to join in this bandwagon by repeatingly saying they are reducing prices by 20% or 25%. But this is only to existing ST holders, not new purchasers.

Big Difference.

You 'shout' blatantly untrue, but then you say some people got in for £5 and who cares?/ Which is it? I doubt very much whether even in the most biased view of what has happened any person not buying a season ticket this term has paid anywhere near the amount paid by ST purchasers.

Concession to loyal paying fans seems to be winding some people up here. I wonder why?

I say well done Karen, and the rest of the board, for giving recognition to those who stumped up at a difficult time for themselves but when Blues needed it the most.
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So correct me if I am wrong here, I decided not to take the 10% option and wait to get the 20% Off, So now everyone gets the 20% Discount, and in effect I lose out by Not taking the the 10% in the first place.? wtf**
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Mar 24 2007, 12:20 PM
So correct me if I am wrong here, I decided not to take the 10% option and wait to get the 20% Off, So now everyone gets the 20% Discount, and in effect I lose out by Not taking the the 10% in the first place.? wtf**

yes everybody who remewed this season will get the 20% reaudless if they took the 10%,20% or the ones who bought half season tickets.

anyone who did'nt wont see any reduction.

i think they've shot themselves in the foot over this.
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Mar 24 2007, 01:24 PM
OB1
Mar 24 2007, 12:20 PM
So correct me if I am wrong here, I decided not to take the 10% option and wait to get the 20% Off, So now everyone gets the 20% Discount, and in effect I lose out by Not taking the the 10% in the first place.?  wtf**

yes everybody who remewed this season will get the 20% reaudless if they took the 10%,20% or the ones who bought half season tickets.

anyone who did'nt wont see any reduction.

i think they've shot themselves in the foot over this.

Doc, I think they have got themselves in a bit of a mess on all of this, and do you know what I actually thought this might happen. :crying:
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Mar 24 2007, 12:26 PM
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Mar 24 2007, 01:24 PM
OB1
Mar 24 2007, 12:20 PM
So correct me if I am wrong here, I decided not to take the 10% option and wait to get the 20% Off, So now everyone gets the 20% Discount, and in effect I lose out by Not taking the the 10% in the first place.?   wtf**

yes everybody who remewed this season will get the 20% reaudless if they took the 10%,20% or the ones who bought half season tickets.

anyone who did'nt wont see any reduction.

i think they've shot themselves in the foot over this.

Doc, I think they have got themselves in a bit of a mess on all of this, and do you know what I actually thought this might happen. :crying:

too right mate i said last season if they did'nt drop the prices across the board they would be playing to an half emty house and will start reducing prices to the pay on the day fan to get people in and i was right.

i see this happening next season as well.

if start to alienate one section of your supporters then they will walk away.

dont forget there are loads of fans who cant afford even 380 pound for a season ticket let aloand 475.

it's these fans they should get back. IMO.
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Mar 24 2007, 12:19 PM

I doubt very much whether even in the most biased view of what has happened any person not buying a season ticket this term has paid anywhere near the amount paid by ST purchasers.


You are repeating the fallacy.

What is wrong with you wisel?

I'll try it in simple english.
A person who bought a season ticket this year, will have paid LESS than anyone who went walk-up on every special discount going.

Please do not keep repeating untruths wisel, they don't become fact if you repeat them enough you know.

:D
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I scrimped scraped and Borrowed money to get me and my 2 kids Season Tickets for this season and even resisted the temptation to claim the 10% off thinking that i was looking at the long term in claiming 20% off for next season hoprfully in the Prem, what a fool was I.

This maybe the straw that breaks the Camels back for me, I have got some serious thinking to do.
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If they dont reduce s/t across the board then i for one will not be coming next season regardless of whether we are in the prem.
Contrary to what some of you percieve as loyalty, loyalty to me was backing the club in the dark days of 6,000 crowds for which my whole family did & for the years after which helped the club into the promised land only then to be ripped off at every opportunity, for the first time in nearly 20 years i along with many others made a stand which in a way has resulted in the more loyal LOL of you getting a reduction. :boohoo: wonder how many s/t holders will moan if the reduction is offered to everybody. :crying:
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Mar 24 2007, 12:40 PM
I scrimped scraped and Borrowed money to get me and my 2 kids Season Tickets for this season and even resisted the temptation to claim the 10% off thinking that i was looking at the long term in claiming 20% off for next season hoprfully in the Prem, what a fool was I.

This maybe the straw that breaks the Camels back for me, I have got some serious thinking to do.

i have two mates who renewed this season and they said even though there due the 20% next season there not renewing just bassed on the poor football this season.

i recko the majority of ST holders this season will renew but thats just because of the 20% discount what wont happen is many new wont buy, not when you see some of the prem teams like blackburn,wigan,bolton, all dropping there season ticket and match day ticket prices.
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Mar 24 2007, 01:43 PM
If they dont reduce s/t across the board then i for one will not be coming next season regardless of whether we are in the prem.
Contrary to what some of you percieve as loyalty, loyalty to me was backing the club in the dark days of 6,000 crowds for which my whole family did & for the years after which helped the club into the promised land only then to be ripped off at every opportunity, for the first time in nearly 20 years i along with many others made a stand which in a way has resulted in the more loyal LOL of you getting a reduction. :boohoo:  wonder how many s/t holders will moan if the reduction is offered to everybody. :crying:

Dont get what you actually mean mate --QUOTE--"for the first time in nearly 20 years i along with many others made a stand which in a way has resulted in the more loyal LOL of you getting a reduction"

Well I was also there in the dark days of 5000 and 6000 in the ground and believe i have earnt any discount that comes my way, so dont tarnish everyone with the same brush please. :unsure:
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I'm not tarnishing anybody with any brush i am saying that because of the thousands of fans who didn't renew this has made the club offer reductions, i object to people classing renewing last season as some sort of loyalty "when the club needed us" because i refused to pay the obscene prices this is not bei
ng disloyal it is makeing a stand for which present s/t holders will gain.
Fair play to you, but my not coming to blues does not make unloyal, & if the board are stupid enough to think myself & many others will return if we get back in the prem then thats fine maybe they are right only time will tell i can only speak for myself & a my family.
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:Blues: I think we should all remember that football is now a business and the fact is pounds make profit, they dont want a large fan base paying a fair price what they need is a select fan base paying huge prices in the name of loyalty to the club. All this price hiking and spin on so called discounts just sucks.
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Nail on the head scudwalker. **thumbup
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I'm not tarnishing anybody with any brush i am saying that because of the thousands of fans who didn't renew this has made the club offer reductions, i object to people classing renewing last season as some sort of loyalty "when the club needed us" because i refused to pay the obscene prices this is not bei
ng disloyal it is makeing a stand for which present s/t holders will gain.
Fair play to you, but my not coming to blues does not make unloyal, & if the board are stupid enough to think myself & many others will return if we get back in the prem then thats fine maybe they are right only time will tell i can only speak for myself & a my family.

And fair play to you for making that stand, I really thought i was going to do it too, but when push came to shove i just didnt have it in my heart to do so, Yes im weak. :crying: :kiss:
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the prawn sandwich brigade might be loaded but when it comes to really supporting your team the working class do it natrually, not just to impress or tie up a deal.
so now with all the panic amongst the clubs i think they have finally realized the sticking point has been met. we love our club with a passion but passion dont get you the money needed and i think they now want the real fans back because as long as we can afford it we will be there in any weather and on any night which cant be said about the prawn sarnies.
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Mar 24 2007, 02:08 PM
the prawn sandwich brigade might be loaded but when it comes to really supporting your team the working class do it natrually, not just to impress or tie up a deal.
so now with all the panic amongst the clubs i think they have finally realized the sticking point has been met. we love our club with a passion but passion dont get you the money needed and i think they now want the real fans back because as long as we can afford it we will be there in any weather and on any night which cant be said about the prawn sarnies.

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