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Are Blues Fans Paranoid?
Topic Started: Mar 29 2007, 08:29 AM (440 Views)
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Mikael Forssell
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Reading through some of the recent posts about Wikipedia and London bias, it seems to me that a lot of Blues fans seem to have a fair size chip on their shoulder about their club and the city in general.

As I understand it Wikipedia is a blog type site where anybody can enter information, so how can it be accused of showing favouritism.

As for London, c'mon it's 8 times (literally) the city that Brum is and deserves all it gets as far as I'm concerned. It's the country's showpiece and people travel from all over the world to see it.Are you really telling me that people would want to travel 6,000 miles to see rusting concrete head stuck on a grass mound. Get you heads out of the sand and embrace this beautiful city, London is the jewell in this country's crown.
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proccy_blues
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fair assessment blues probably - but i for one prefer brum to london any day of the week, not least because of the people, not the historical or financial differences. and yes, i have lived down there in the past and spent a fair amount of time there recently. i don't consider i have a chip, just a mild resentment sitting on my shoulder asking why all projects (wembley for example) should be there when it's a national stadium....
fek it, i hate em... :D
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Blue64
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Mar 29 2007, 08:29 AM
Get you heads out of the sand and embrace this beautiful city, London is the jewell in this country's crown.

wtf** If you think London is so beautiful I'd hate to see what you think is ugly, every city has its good spots and every city has its slums. The" City " of London is actually quite small with a small population :Blues:
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Blue64
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Mar 29 2007, 08:35 AM
fek it, i hate em... :D

**thumbup :applause: :applause: :rolleyes:
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Mar 29 2007, 07:29 AM
Get you heads out of the sand and embrace this beautiful city, London is the jewell in this country's crown.


Ooooooooo! Light blue touch paper! :LOL:
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Mar 29 2007, 09:38 AM
Blues
Mar 29 2007, 07:29 AM
Get you heads out of the sand and embrace this beautiful city, London is the jewell in this country's crown.


Ooooooooo! Light blue touch paper! :LOL:

you forgot the words

.......and retire :rolleyes:
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Wisel
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There is the paranoia as you say and then there's the reality. If you ask yourself the question does Brum get it's fair share of investment and attention that it's contribution to the country's GDP demands, it seems at times that it doesn't. I don't know the actual answer to that, but I would be very keen to know the answer. Any fiscal wizards out there?

But it does seem that with the national stadium, the dome, the proposed but now strangely defeated Casino proposal, the continual avoidance of Brum for major sporting event proposal at National level, the promotion of Manchester airport over Brum's. etc etc you can start to understand why people get paranoid. If you also remember hat Birmingham is about twice the size of Manchester, ask yourself 'does Brum get twice as much attention and investment that Manchester does? In line with the contributions that the two communities give. I doubt it.

But, if you can get an answer to that question then you can get on to the question that really intrigues me, why does Brum get second best treatment? I have my views on why, but I would love to crack that nut.

These matters are very close to my heart.

You could even then interpret why the local football scene is weaker than those in London, Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool and even the Lancashire basin.

Great question though.
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Sameth
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Most of London is really quite ugly, but the landmarks are very nice. Not that I'd rather live in Birmingham or London, but I don't think the two are that dissimilar.
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acjboyle
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Mar 29 2007, 08:29 AM
Reading through some of the recent posts about Wikipedia and London bias, it seems to me that a lot of Blues fans seem to have a fair size chip on their shoulder about their club and the city in general.

As I understand it Wikipedia is a blog type site where anybody can enter information, so how can it be accused of showing favouritism.


wtf** Do You have NO sense of humour???? My god. Take YOUR chip off YOUR shoulder. this post is intended and is taken lightly by all contributors. Sod off back to London with all your nonsense.
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doc nick
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when you consider the facilities especialy for sport that birmingham offers you can understand why we are overlooked.

take our city centre it's whoefully small you can walk around the entire place in under an hour.

try doing that in london.

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Loz.JBB.
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I dont think im paranoid *Looks ova shoulder to see who is following*



:LMAO:
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bathsheba
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Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.....
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bordesley
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doc nick
Mar 29 2007, 09:25 AM
when you consider the facilities especialy for sport that birmingham offers you can understand why we are overlooked.

take our city centre it's whoefully small you can walk around the entire place in under an hour.

try doing that in london.

That depends wholly upon where and if London actually has a city centre. If you’re talking about the City of London then as someone has already said, it’s only just a little larger than Birmingham’s City centre. There’s 8 times the population in London and each of the borough’s constitute a city by the rest of the countries standards. London is a fabulous place to visit.

However, I drive along the Arston Expressway (obviously saluting the right hand side appropriately, I feel at peace, Home. Birmingham has much going for it. Personally, I’d suggest that we work more closely with the capital on developing our city and stop those bloomin mancs getting everything else.
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Mar 29 2007, 08:29 AM
Reading through some of the recent posts about Wikipedia and London bias, it seems to me that a lot of Blues fans seem to have a fair size chip on their shoulder about their club and the city in general.

As I understand it Wikipedia is a blog type site where anybody can enter information, so how can it be accused of showing favouritism.

As for London, c'mon it's 8 times (literally) the city that Brum is and deserves all it gets as far as I'm concerned. It's the country's showpiece and people travel from all over the world to see it.Are you really telling me that people would want to travel 6,000 miles to see rusting concrete head stuck on a grass mound. Get you heads out of the sand and embrace this beautiful city, London is the jewell in this country's crown.

tell that to those living in Peckham and Brixton :whistle:
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Sam Tyler
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Ah, my favourite hobby-horse. As an exiled brummie living in london I love both places but they are different.

I have always disliked the petty paranoia that (some) brummies display towards London. Having one of the world's great capital cities only 2 hours away is something that brummies should be pleased about.

There's a self-deprecating quality to brummies which at it's best is very attractive : gentle humour, modesty & a lack of pretension. At it's worst it's a lack of ambition, moaning & an attitude of "we're 5h1t and we know we are". A stark contrast to the self-confidence of mancs, scousers, geordies, etc, and an attitude that would be inexplicable to the natives of our european second-city peers, such as Barcelona and Milan.

Imo, brummies should concentrate on developing birmingham into a great city & worry much less about london, manchester or anywhere else for that matter.
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acjboyle
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Mar 29 2007, 10:21 AM
Ah, my favourite hobby-horse. As an exiled brummie living in london I love both places but they are different.

I have always disliked the petty paranoia that (some) brummies display towards London. Having one of the world's great capital cities only 2 hours away is something that brummies should be pleased about.

There's a self-deprecating quality to brummies which at it's best is very attractive : gentle humour, modesty & a lack of pretension. At it's worst it's a lack of ambition, troublesome & an attitude of "we're 5h1t and we know we are". A stark contrast to the self-confidence of mancs, scousers, geordies, etc, and an attitude that would be inexplicable to the natives of our european second-city peers, such as Barcelona and Milan.

Imo, brummies should concentrate on developing birmingham into a great city & worry much less about london, manchester or anywhere else for that matter.

A one-eyed view.
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Loz.JBB.
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Mar 29 2007, 09:39 AM
Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.....

Who said that!!!! :LMAO:




To be truthful i miss Brum. Ive been living in Yarmouth for 8 months, but would i swap the sea side for the bull ring??? seroiusly.......Prob not but i dont stop me missin it :Blues:
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acjboyle
Mar 29 2007, 10:22 AM
A one-eyed view.

how so ?
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Sam Tyler
Mar 29 2007, 10:21 AM


I have always disliked the petty paranoia that (some) brummies display towards London. Having one of the world's great capital cities only 2 hours away is something that brummies should be pleased about.


Exactly
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bathsheba
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Loz.JBB.
Mar 29 2007, 10:23 AM
bathsheba
Mar 29 2007, 09:39 AM
Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're not out to get you.....

Who said that!!!! :LMAO:
:Blues:

Mmmnn, Didn't you hear them all whispering it?
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Wisel
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Sam Tyler
Mar 29 2007, 11:21 AM
Ah, my favourite hobby-horse. As an exiled brummie living in london I love both places but they are different.

I have always disliked the petty paranoia that (some) brummies display towards London. Having one of the world's great capital cities only 2 hours away is something that brummies should be pleased about.

There's a self-deprecating quality to brummies which at it's best is very attractive : gentle humour, modesty & a lack of pretension. At it's worst it's a lack of ambition, moaning & an attitude of "we're 5h1t and we know we are". A stark contrast to the self-confidence of mancs, scousers, geordies, etc, and an attitude that would be inexplicable to the natives of our european second-city peers, such as Barcelona and Milan.

Imo, brummies should concentrate on developing birmingham into a great city & worry much less about london, manchester or anywhere else for that matter.

Well said.

There is only one point left and that is financially do we get our fair share of investment compared to our contribution to national wealth? I would guess not, but a bit difficult to get to the figures. (When I've got a spare hour or so maybe)
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lbn
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Really interersting thread.

I'm a Brummie, proud of it and could never support any other team than Birmingham City. I've lived in London for over 30 years and now would rather not live in either. I intend to retire to the sun.

What I find most interesting is other peoples attitude to Brummies and BCFC supporters here, both Londoners and those who moved here.

They finally seem to realise that it's not all covered in soot but for some reason I really don't understand given some of the famous people who do come from Birmingham, it doesn't seem to have a personality to them, good or bad, which Manchester, Liverpool etc do have.

The Arsenals fans are the least scornful but that's probably because we have so many of their youth team.
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acjboyle
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Mar 29 2007, 10:24 AM
acjboyle
Mar 29 2007, 10:22 AM
A one-eyed view.

how so ?

cos it's a view that is unfairly balanced and prejudgiced and somewhat stereotypical.
I could say that Londoner's don't look beyond the M25, but that'd also be one-eyed.
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Wisel
Mar 29 2007, 08:45 AM
There is the paranoia as you say and then there's the reality. If you ask yourself the question does Brum get it's fair share of investment and attention that it's contribution to the country's GDP demands, it seems at times that it doesn't. I don't know the actual answer to that, but I would be very keen to know the answer. Any fiscal wizards out there?

But it does seem that with the national stadium, the dome, the proposed but now strangely defeated Casino proposal, the continual avoidance of Brum for major sporting event proposal at National level, the promotion of Manchester airport over Brum's. etc etc you can start to understand why people get paranoid. If you also remember hat Birmingham is about twice the size of Manchester, ask yourself 'does Brum get twice as much attention and investment that Manchester does? In line with the contributions that the two communities give. I doubt it.

But, if you can get an answer to that question then you can get on to the question that really intrigues me, why does Brum get second best treatment? I have my views on why, but I would love to crack that nut.

These matters are very close to my heart.

You could even then interpret why the local football scene is weaker than those in London, Manchester, Newcastle, Liverpool and even the Lancashire basin.

Great question though.

Great Response **thumbup
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djmmusic
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doc nick
Mar 29 2007, 09:25 AM
when you consider the facilities especialy for sport that birmingham offers you can understand why we are overlooked.

take our city centre it's whoefully small you can walk around the entire place in under an hour.

try doing that in london.

You must be wearing stilts buddy. When did you last go into town - 1986?!
It's rapidly expanded outwards since then, and with the Eastside expansion is going to get bigger yet.
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