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Nafti's Tackling; i wince every time!
Topic Started: Aug 13 2007, 08:12 AM (370 Views)
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Mikael Forssell
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does anyone else worry when we see Nafti rushing in to a tackle, leading with both feet! it worries the hell out of me - he did it about 2/3 times yesterday and got away with it as he got the ball each time but, let's be honest, his timing's not his best quality and at some point he will be carded for such tackles with a different referee!

in the Man U game, Kitson was sent off after 37 seconds for catching Evra with one foot - Nafti leading with two is sure to bring tears at some point this season....
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I'm just worried when he steps on the pitch, Tackling and Distribution is poor.

Personally, I think we would be better of without him, although he is a good leader, he isn't really a good footballer anymore.
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Tiny Taylor
Aug 13 2007, 09:57 AM
I'm just worried when he steps on the pitch, Tackling and Distribution is poor.

Personally, I think we would be better of without him, although he is a good leader, he isn't really a good footballer anymore.

i disagree - he didn't give the ball away anywhere near as much as muamba, for example, and in amongst that chelsea midfield i thought they ALL did pretty well. his tackling looks two footed but he leads with his right foot so it isn't technically an offence, hence the fact he never got pulled on it. no doubt he will get carded at some point as all midfielders do, but i personally think we need his ferocious tackling to create ball and space for others to play a more expansive game.... ;)
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I agree his distribution could be better but his tackling? I love it, thought he made some brilliant tackles yesterday, would you want to play against him?

With a good playmaker next to him id play him every match.
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Tiny Taylor
Aug 13 2007, 08:57 AM
I'm just worried when he steps on the pitch, Tackling and Distribution is poor.

Personally, I think we would be better of without him, although he is a good leader, he isn't really a good footballer anymore.

if steve bennet dont book him then he will be fine. i thought he did OK! lets face it a kelly shoulder charge got them a free kick is that sort of thng not allowd anymore, can someone explain the new rules of football to me please!
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Aug 13 2007, 08:12 AM
does anyone else worry when we see Nafti rushing in to a tackle, leading with both feet! it worries the hell out of me - he did it about 2/3 times yesterday and got away with it as he got the ball each time but, let's be honest, his timing's not his best quality and at some point he will be carded for such tackles with a different referee!

in the Man U game, Kitson was sent off after 37 seconds for catching Evra with one foot - Nafti leading with two is sure to bring tears at some point this season....

Nafti's tackling is a work of art compared to his passing.
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I agree about Nafti's passing but he is predominatley a holding midfielder. Maybe putting him especially at home just behind the back four and then giving Kapo the licence to roam the pitch and create things.

My midfield for Sunderland:

------------------------Nafti
----Larsson----------------------------McSheffery
----------------------Kapo

It would be intresting.
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Mikael Forssell
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proccysotv
Aug 13 2007, 09:02 AM
Tiny Taylor
Aug 13 2007, 09:57 AM
I'm just worried when he steps on the pitch, Tackling and Distribution is poor.

Personally, I think we would be better of without him, although he is a good leader, he isn't really a good footballer anymore.

i disagree - he didn't give the ball away anywhere near as much as muamba, for example, and in amongst that chelsea midfield i thought they ALL did pretty well. his tackling looks two footed but he leads with his right foot so it isn't technically an offence, hence the fact he never got pulled on it. no doubt he will get carded at some point as all midfielders do, but i personally think we need his ferocious tackling to create ball and space for others to play a more expansive game.... ;)

i agree with some of your comments but let's be honest it took Nafti about 20mins to warm up; until then his distribution was poor giving the ball away cheaply and putting us under more pressure when we should have been looking for clear our lines....

however later in the first half and the second he did create space for others
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87dominguez
Aug 13 2007, 09:16 AM
I agree about Nafti's passing but he is predominatley a holding midfielder. Maybe putting him especially at home just behind the back four and then giving Kapo the licence to roam the pitch and create things.

My midfield for Sunderland:

------------------------Nafti
----Larsson----------------------------McSheffery
----------------------Kapo

It would be intresting.

More worrying for me than Nafti's tackling is Mcsheffrey, imo he is fast becoming a luxury Blues wont be able to afford, the loss of form is worrying and one of the reasons i thought Quedrue got roasted yesterday was Mcshefferys unwillingness to track back.

For me he wouldnt make the first eleven at the moment, when Bruce switched him inside and put Kapo left yesterday Philips became less effective.

I thought that move was like when a cricket captain hides a bad fielder, personally think Mr.Mcsheffery had better buck his ideas up or face the role of benchwarmer. Imo of course
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Made me cringe every time he went into a tackle!
Definitely not his strong point
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bornblues64
Aug 13 2007, 09:36 AM
87dominguez
Aug 13 2007, 09:16 AM
I agree about Nafti's passing but he is predominatley a holding midfielder. Maybe putting him especially at home just behind the back four and then giving Kapo the licence to roam the pitch and create things.

My midfield for Sunderland:

------------------------Nafti
----Larsson----------------------------McSheffery
----------------------Kapo

It would be intresting.

More worrying for me than Nafti's tackling is Mcsheffrey, imo he is fast becoming a luxury Blues wont be able to afford, the loss of form is worrying and one of the reasons i thought Quedrue got roasted yesterday was Mcshefferys unwillingness to track back.

For me he wouldnt make the first eleven at the moment, when Bruce switched him inside and put Kapo left yesterday Philips became less effective.

I thought that move was like when a cricket captain hides a bad fielder, personally think Mr.Mcsheffery had better buck his ideas up or face the role of benchwarmer. Imo of course


Judge, Jury , and Executioner after one game!!

It's great ennit?? Most of the pundits and Jose' are saying how well we played but not our own "experts" on here!!

After every game there has to be a witch hunt and blame has to be apportioned.

What a sad lot we are!!
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garconsavage
Aug 13 2007, 09:46 AM
bornblues64
Aug 13 2007, 09:36 AM
87dominguez
Aug 13 2007, 09:16 AM
I agree about Nafti's passing but he is predominatley a holding midfielder. Maybe putting him especially at home just behind the back four and then giving Kapo the licence to roam the pitch and create things.

My midfield for Sunderland:

------------------------Nafti
----Larsson----------------------------McSheffery
----------------------Kapo

It would be intresting.

More worrying for me than Nafti's tackling is Mcsheffrey, imo he is fast becoming a luxury Blues wont be able to afford, the loss of form is worrying and one of the reasons i thought Quedrue got roasted yesterday was Mcshefferys unwillingness to track back.

For me he wouldnt make the first eleven at the moment, when Bruce switched him inside and put Kapo left yesterday Philips became less effective.

I thought that move was like when a cricket captain hides a bad fielder, personally think Mr.Mcsheffery had better buck his ideas up or face the role of benchwarmer. Imo of course


Judge, Jury , and Executioner after one game!!

It's great ennit?? Most of the pundits and Jose' are saying how well we played but not our own "experts" on here!!

After every game there has to be a witch hunt and blame has to be apportioned.

What a sad lot we are!!

Why is it a witch hunt?

Where has blame been apportioned?

Its just people's opinions of how people have saw the match, there is no slagging of players as far as i can see just opinions.

After all isn't that what this board is here for to discuss and debate football involving Blues.

If someone has a poor game then why not say so?

Some people think Nafti's tackling is poor, i think its great .

Opinions, not a witch hunt is what i'd call it.

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Thought Nafti played a big part in Essiens goal, for the cross he just dived straight in all the chelsea player had to do was put his foot on the ball and had the time and space to look up and pick a decent cross as Nafti carried on sliding off the pitch.

I also thought he should have been sent off, he jumped in and left the floor twice the second time with 2 feet. Last season he wouldn't have been on the pitch :copno:

I don't think it was his best game but it's one game this season, you can't draw any conclusions just yet. What we can say is we scored 2 at the bridge, maybe we have goals in us this time with Kapo, Fors, Jerome, Larsson, etc..
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I think Nafti's tackling is less of an issue than his passing. I thought Nafti's tackling was great, did he get booked NO! So don't complain that his tackles are dirty until he gets punished for one, OK.

Nafti needs to be more creative and look for a good through ball. Apart from his passing he didn't play too bad. Id give him a good 6/10.

:Blues:
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I thought Nafti had a decent game, once he'd settled into the tempo of the game. Very easy to say that he kept diving in but a number of them were doing that to be honest, first game enthusiasm. I know it's a bit early to comment but I do have some worries about McSheffery, if it was just yesterday I'd class it as a one off or a needing time to adjust, problem is that he also ended last season looking out of sorts.

Anyway judging by Kapo's performance on the left when he moved over I'd be more than happy to go with him there against Sunderland.
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I was pleased with Nafti's play overall, but I do think the style of some of his tackles is going to be a problem.

He did get into trouble over it last season and is likley to again.

We simply cannot afford to have someone sent off, say in a tense blood and guts game like it will be against Sunderland, where the ref can get caught up the emotion too and make snap judgements.

I don't think it is a case of him pulling out of tackles. I just think it is a matter of the style. Leading with 2 feet is a habit he has and I don't think it makes it any more likely he will win the ball. Other players start off the with the same committed lunge but leave one leg bent back at the knee and out of the way.

I think that Nafti and the management should think seriously about it and try to find a way for Nafti to continue to be as effective, but to reduce the chances of being sent off.
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He is scary sometimes...Reminds me of a certain Robbie fella we used to have 8)
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PenguinBlue
Aug 13 2007, 08:12 AM
does anyone else worry when we see Nafti rushing in to a tackle, leading with both feet! it worries the hell out of me - he did it about 2/3 times yesterday and got away with it as he got the ball each time but, let's be honest, his timing's not his best quality and at some point he will be carded for such tackles with a different referee!

in the Man U game, Kitson was sent off after 37 seconds for catching Evra with one foot - Nafti leading with two is sure to bring tears at some point this season....

I wont be wincing if he does them tackles against arston viler :LOL:
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Aug 13 2007, 09:12 AM
does anyone else worry when we see Nafti rushing in to a tackle, leading with both feet! it worries the hell out of me - he did it about 2/3 times yesterday and got away with it as he got the ball each time but, let's be honest, his timing's not his best quality and at some point he will be carded for such tackles with a different referee!

in the Man U game, Kitson was sent off after 37 seconds for catching Evra with one foot - Nafti leading with two is sure to bring tears at some point this season....

tackling for possession of the ball is one of nafti's strong points.

He doesn't tackle in a dangerous manner, his studs are down to the ground and he goes in with one foot. Yesterday they were well timed and nothing to worry about.

Kitson was sent off for Serious Foul play because in the opinion of the referee he used excessive force and endangered the safety of every by lunging for the ball.
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