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Nafti Or Kilkenny; If you were in charge.....
Topic Started: Aug 13 2007, 11:25 AM (240 Views)
jobsterdave
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who would you prefer?

i know they're different types of player but looking at Nafti and his passing yesterday, I just think Kilkenny would have been a better option and IMO wouldn't have given the ball away so easily.

I know I keep going on about the Newcastle game last season but when kilkenny threaded that pass to DJC for his goal he showed his quality. I spent most of last season moaning about the fact he's not on the bench.

Kilkenny fits the clubs "young and hungry" mould perfectly IMO

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Kilkenny is too lightweight for the prem and he's gone, subject over really !
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tim
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Bruce will always play 2 Defensive midfielders in the centre of the park.

Kapo is the Attacking Midfielder.

So would you rather have Kapo or Kilkenny?
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Lars_Dudley
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Kilkenny has gone on loan.

I'd play Nafti ahead of him anyway. Especially in a game like Chelsea away when basically it was just a case of damage limitation.

Nafti did alright anyway. I'd stick with him and Muamba in the middle of the park for us. Muamba likes to try and push on a bit every so often and with Forssell, Kapo, McSheffrey and Larsson all attacking, I think its important to have those two breaking up play and helping out with a brand new defence.
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Nafti, everytime.
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bluenosedave
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But would Kilkenny have thrown himself into some of the tackles that Nafti made?

Also would having 4 attack minded midfielders in a 5 man midfield have left a few too many holes for Chelsea to exploit?

Also would Kilkenny playing the ball quickly to a lone striker have meant that we actually have had even more defending of the return ball to do?

I agree to start with Nafti's passing was poor, but then so was Muamba's and Kapo's at times - actually something that improved as the game went on.

Kilkenny's got obvious ability but he needs to add more to his game as a central midfielder to be seen as first choice; if he did though we'd have a player who could become as good as Scott Parker or Barton (without the baggage). Kilkenny is potentially a £6-8M (more if you look at what the scum paid for Reo-Joker) midfielder but to get to that standard he needs to up the physical side of the role and sometimes accept that you might only get a real opportunity once a game to make that killer pass (as opposed to every time he gets the ball).
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Nafti end of.

Ok he gave the ball away to often in the second half, but also in the same game he broke up play and tackled tremendously.

I believe the starting line up for weds should be that, that started at Chelsea.

Lets give them confidence in being selected again to start and let them show the home crowd what they can do
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Nafti.
Yes Kilkenny is good on the ball, better than Nafti.
BUT Nafti is stronger.
I would say Nafti may even be quicker (not sure though but i do know that neither of them are rapid)
Nafti CAN tackle better.

Show a little faith in him, he'll come good...i hope
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We shouldn't have sold Clemence in the first place.
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nafti, killkenny would have been over run yesterday!! for me the choice is between jonty and nafti and jonty wins
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I actually think that at home we will have a central midfield pairing of one holding and one attacking....
Kapo and Muamba/DJ/Nafti et al....
Then we play a 4-4-2 with the Fors and O'Connor/Jerome up front....
The two defensive central midfielders will be purely for away games....
Brucie seems to have learned his lesson on this one too!
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Bluebird
Aug 13 2007, 12:28 PM
I actually think that at home we will have a central midfield pairing of one holding and one attacking....
Kapo and Muamba/DJ/Nafti et al....
Then we play a 4-4-2 with the Fors and O'Connor/Jerome up front....
The two defensive central midfielders will be purely for away games....
Brucie seems to have learned his lesson on this one too!

In your dreams :LMAO:
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Bluebird
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tim Posted on Aug 13 2007, 12:31 PM

In your dreams    :LMAO:

Now that says more about YOU than it ever does about my Post or Brucie's learning process!
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Never mind all this sign the petition so we can have a ground fit for our HEROES :kiss:

http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/BhamStadium/
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Aug 13 2007, 12:43 PM
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tim Posted on Aug 13 2007, 12:31 PM

In your dreams    :LMAO:

Now that says more about YOU than it ever does about my Post or Brucie's learning process!

No it doesn't because you have read it the wrong way. (If there was a 'Swivel' smilie I'd put it here.)

I'm convinced SB has learned an awful lot, you only have to take one look at the 'Ghaly Incident' and the reduction of the average age of the squad to realise he has learnt, but one thing he won't do is change his tactics.

I asked him the following question at a forum at St. Andies.

"I appreciate we play with 2 attacking wingers, but why at home, against the likes of Southend, Luton, Norwich etc, do we insist on playing 2 Defensive midfielders when playing an attacking midfielder would give us so many more options?"

His reply...

"My style to play with a strong spine in the middle of the park, which means 2 defensive midfielders, the creativity comes from the wings and front 2... That is my style, that is how I like to approach every game regardless if they plan to put 10 men behind the ball. That is how I have always approached games as a manager and that is how I will always approach games as a manager"

Conclusion

In your dreams :LMAO: - that's why while we have 2 of Nafti, DJ and Muamba fit they will start in the middle.

He may play Kapo off the front striker, but not as part of a middle 2.

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Bluebird
Aug 13 2007, 12:43 PM
The two defensive central midfielders will be purely for away games....
Brucie seems to have learned his lesson on this one too!


How can you say he has learned his lesson?

The whole of last season we played with Clem/DJ/Nafti/Muamba in the middle and we have not played a home game yet this season?
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Kilkenny would have been slaughtered out there yesterday. Muamba was busy with Lampard and kept the tubby one extremely quiet throughout the game, leaving Nafti to deal with Essien. Essien would have bulldozed Kilkenny aside, at least Nafti gave him a good physical confrontation.

I doubt we'll see much of Kapo as a central midfielder, he'll be used more as a support striker as he started against Chelsea, or as a more orthodox left midfielder, where he scored his goal from and operated once Jerome came on. He looks like he'll drift about and float in and out like Dunn did when he was fit, and provided we get the right option on the other flank, be it Larsson with his excellent delivery or de Ridder with his tricks and pace, then I can see solidity in the middle being a good option. I don't really want to see Kapo on the edge of his own box making tackles all the while, I'd much rather he was upfield creating chances and kicking the ball really, really hard.

Muamba won't stay shackled to the centre of the park, his game clearly isn't one of disciplined sitting infront of the back four, but against Chelsea he showed a great maturity in his positioning. Hopefully against Sunderland he'll be given a little more licence to go forward, and hopefully Yorke won't be able to live with his energy. Of course he isn't the finished article yet and he has to work on his distribution, but if he WAS the finished article with little room for improvement, Arsenal wouldn't have let him go. He's young, and he'll learn. He does remind me of Savage in his energy and enthusiasm, and once he adds a little more craft to his football then he'll be some player. And Savage always worked best with a reserved midfielder alongside him, a Cisse for example.

So that leaves Johnson and Nafti. They have the discipline to play the more reserved, defensive role that teams in our position need. We're not as good as Man. Utd. and we can't trust our defenders as much as they can with Ferdinand and Vidic. Having two players of their calibre at the back means they can afford sometimes to be more ambitious and to flood forward in waves with Carrick and Scholes both pushing on. We're not at that level, and as a result need to employ some insurance for our young centre backs.
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tim Posted on Aug 13 2007, 01:21 PM

No it doesn't because you have read it the wrong way. (If there was a 'Swivel' smilie I'd put it here.)

My apologies....
Next time you post could you please include instructions on how we should read it :rolleyes:

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How can you say he has learned his lesson?

The whole of last season we played with Clem/DJ/Nafti/Muamba in the middle and we have not played a home game yet this season?

You've caught me out.... :angry:
Have you never experienced the talents of Psychic Bluebird?
Now let's form a circle and all hold hands....
Wait and see....
When people learn lessons they change their approach....
That's what learning is all about....
Do you approach life now in the same way and make the same decisions that you did twenty years ago?
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