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7 Million Net; how much !!!!!!
Topic Started: Sep 1 2007, 04:20 PM (1,019 Views)
garrybaldy
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Something i picked up on in Tom Ross' commentary today and i don't think people have really thought about this

" well really what do we expect when the Manager has spent 7 million net, the LEAST any club in this division has spent"

he has just mentioned it again

now he obviously knows what is going on he has the ear of SB etc

So I'm sorry we can debate whether SB is good enough or not, but that sort of investment , considering season ticket prices, admin charges, credit card charges is very very poor.

I thought we would spend a reasonable amount and try to make a fist of it( Sullivan Promise :rolleyes: ), but if an appeaser the likes of Ross finds the need to mention it a couple of times , i feel it is worth debating.

I just hope the takeover happens soon and Carson Yeung follows through on his promise of good investment

I really can't take another season like the Relegation season
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Oby
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Garry you just beat me into posting this as a topic starter, I have mentioned it though on another thread, well £7 m is a total disgrace as far as im concerned, and on 12 players too... :banghead:
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Aussiebrum
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Not sure I agree fully as you have to factor in wages.

We have a few good loans which involve loan fees and high wages.

You may or may not be right, all I'm saying is the measure needs to involve loan fees and wages. I still feel our squad is still in the best 15 in the League.
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Oby
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Aussiebrum
Sep 1 2007, 05:23 PM
Not sure I agree fully as you have to factor in wages.

We have a few good loans which involve loan fees and high wages.

You may or may not be right, all I'm saying is the measure needs to involve loan fees and wages. I still feel our squad is still in the best 15 in the League.

Yes but every team/club has to pay wages, expenses, signing on fees, etc, etc,etc.
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garrybaldy
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Obi,I am so disillusioned at the moment with hearing this i cannot get my hat on

Ross has just had another dig saying Boro have spent millions and if you spend a pittance you get what you deserve- i cannot argue with him

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This board has always done everything on the cheap if they can and ripped the fans off if they can,I will be glad when the take over happens and someone realisles that you have to spend money to get good players.
And before some of you say something different,we had a massive increase in tv money this season so we should have been looking to spend at least 20-25 million .
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mccp
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Sep 1 2007, 05:23 PM
Not sure I agree fully as you have to factor in wages.

We have a few good loans which involve loan fees and high wages.

You may or may not be right, all I'm saying is the measure needs to involve loan fees and wages. I still feel our squad is still in the best 15 in the League.

Good grief ausie - how desperate can you get :LMAO:

So, blues are the only club who pay wages, loan fees etc. etc.

garyb is talking about net spend, compare that with other net spends is the thread.Not excuse finding.

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bornblues64
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This spending thing was done to death on another thread last week, the team keeps changing, new players etc and silly things like playing players out of position keep happening, i still say if you put Bruce in charge of Barcelona they wouldnt finish any higher than mid-table.


To date Bruce has spent nearly 70 million on players, yes we all have to give this team/squad a bit of time but the bottom line is nearly 70 million and there are still worrying performances like today.

Dress up and massage the figures all you want but Mr.Bruce has heavily invested in players since he has been here, he himself says if he asks the board he usually gets what he wants.

He has quoted somewhere that this is the best squad he's seen down here so obviously he is happy and yet the same performances still keep happening. Why???

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garrybaldy
Sep 1 2007, 05:25 PM
Obi,I am so disillusioned at the moment with hearing this i cannot get my hat on

Ross has just had another dig saying Boro have spent millions and if you spend a pittance you get what you deserve- i cannot argue with him

Yeah but if Brady or Sully came on the phone to him i think we all know he would change his tune to please them.

Everything concering this football club is really starting to pi$$ me off, everything.
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garrybaldy
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Sep 1 2007, 05:23 PM
Not sure I agree fully as you have to factor in wages.

We have a few good loans which involve loan fees and high wages.

You may or may not be right, all I'm saying is the measure needs to involve loan fees and wages. I still feel our squad is still in the best 15 in the League.

But a team like Boro, with an average of 23,000, an owner not as rich as our owners is willing to invest in Players to the tune of Multi millions without factoring in wages etc

he does not come out with big brash statements of 10 mill players, big spending etc

If the people who run our club ned to blame anyone for the poor ST sales etc they need to look at THEMSELVES
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garrybaldy
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bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:28 PM
This spending thing was done to death on another thread last week, the team keeps changing, new players etc and silly things like playing players out of position keep happening, i still say if you put Bruce in charge of Barcelona they wouldnt finish any higher than mid-table.


To date Bruce has spent nearly 70 million on players, yes we all have to give this team/squad a bit of time but the bottom line is nearly 70 million and there are still worrying performances like today.

Dress up and massage the figures all you want but Mr.Bruce has heavily invested in players since he has been here, he himself says if he asks the board he usually gets what he wants.

He has quoted somewhere that this is the best squad he's seen down here so obviously he is happy and yet the same performances still keep happening. Why???

No dressing up of any figures 7 million NET is a bloody disgrace

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SimonBCFC
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Reading have only spent 3.1m

sunderland have spent 35m


We should have spent another 15m on a top class creative midfielder and a striker after failing to get mido.

Its all long term investments , staying in the prem will give us around 40m anyway so spending 20-25m would be worth it


January cant come fast enough....

Not that im panicing or anything :unsure:
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bornblues64
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Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.
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87dominguez
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I read somewhere that we have spent £14.95M this summer, but i will have to check.
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bornblues64
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Sep 1 2007, 04:38 PM
I think we have spent £14.95M this summer, but i will have to check.

Sounds about right
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bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.

You spend £64m


you recoup £30.5m

net spend =£33.5m

:whistle:
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bornblues64
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Willie
Sep 1 2007, 04:42 PM
bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.

You spend £64m


you recoup £30.5m

net spend =£33.5m

:whistle:

Exactly you have spent 64 million, thank you. No matter what you get back you have still spent 64 million.
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jackoblue
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bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.

I'm all for more transparency. All Clubs without exception should publish exact figures with regard to payments to players, their agents and other Clubs. Then and only then can any real comparison be made as to what individual Clubs spend.

Quite rightly a player's salary is a matter between his employer, himself/agent and the Inland Revenue. So it'll never happen.



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garrybaldy
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bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.

But what argument would Tom Ross want to massage.........

unless......

he was coming to the aid of SB

is that what you are getting at, if so , i can see where you are coming from
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mandy@blues
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It seems that Tom Ross is really unhappy about our investment over the summer....he's brought this up so much this afternoon.
Bring on January!
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bowbrum03
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Sep 1 2007, 04:23 PM
Not sure I agree fully as you have to factor in wages.

We have a few good loans which involve loan fees and high wages.

You may or may not be right, all I'm saying is the measure needs to involve loan fees and wages. I still feel our squad is still in the best 15 in the League.

You may as well say if you buy a player for 6M there are no wages to pay .If you get a loan or a free you have to pay wages... so are you saying a 10M player his wages would be low ...and a player on loan his wages would be high ?
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garrybaldy
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Sep 1 2007, 05:48 PM
It seems that Tom Ross is really unhappy about our investment over the summer....he's brought this up so much this afternoon.
Bring on January!

He is very upset about it , isnt he.

Most unlike him
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bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:44 PM
Willie
Sep 1 2007, 04:42 PM
bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.

You spend £64m


you recoup £30.5m

net spend =£33.5m

:whistle:

Exactly you have spent 64 million, thank you. No matter what you get back you have still spent 64 million.

yes you have but that is not exactly true as you have to balance the books. by taking into account the monies brought in as well.

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garrybaldy
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bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:44 PM
Willie
Sep 1 2007, 04:42 PM
bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.

You spend £64m


you recoup £30.5m

net spend =£33.5m

:whistle:

Exactly you have spent 64 million, thank you. No matter what you get back you have still spent 64 million.

and recouped 30.5 million
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bornblues64
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Willie
Sep 1 2007, 04:49 PM
bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:44 PM
Willie
Sep 1 2007, 04:42 PM
bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 05:36 PM
Can someone explain this net spend business? for i am obviously too thick to understand it.

Is it a bit like this. ?? Sell a player for 1 million - buy a player for 1 million = net spend 0???????

If so its utter rubbish , no offence intended.

Its called massaging figures to suit an argument by certain members of the media who quite frankly should know better.

You spend £64m


you recoup £30.5m

net spend =£33.5m

:whistle:

Exactly you have spent 64 million, thank you. No matter what you get back you have still spent 64 million.

yes you have but that is not exactly true as you have to balance the books. by taking into account the monies brought in as well.

I agree but how many times in your life have you ever seen "Net Spend" figures being used where football transfers are concerned, ive followed football for most of my life and have never heard this net spend thing before.

Must be a new concept, i must keep up with the times :P
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