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Bruce Out/in?; (merged threads)
Topic Started: Sep 1 2007, 07:34 PM (1,876 Views)
bcfcno1fan
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Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss.. :)


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Lucky
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bcfcno1fan
Sep 1 2007, 08:34 PM
Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss.. :)


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it will soon be a bruce out post
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Brummie 1875
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Bruce to stay for the moment, lose to bolton i might change my mind.
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Lucky
Sep 1 2007, 08:37 PM
bcfcno1fan
Sep 1 2007, 08:34 PM
Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss..  :)


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it will soon be a bruce out post

I was thinking more along the lines of how many threads do we need which all asking the same basic question.. :banghead:
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blueboyheaven
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i have just back from the game today and let me tell you it was the worst performance in a long long time, however as i have stated before its the board people shoud be pointing the finger at, bruce can only work with what pittance he is given to spend and lets face it compared to other team we all think are below us in standing ie fulham, wigan, etc we have spent nowt.
Mido was a class act today but i for one think it was just a season ticket stunt , if it wasnt were did the £9 million go ?????

Sorry david but thanks for getting us through the bad times but youve run your course, sell up to yeung NOW and lets spend some hard cash in january otherwise championship here we come
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Far from happy with the performance today and at the West Ham games. Getting fed up of seeing the same poor football despite the change in players. But In still, at the moment. Gonna have faith that it was a very very bad day at the office, but things need to improve dramatically.
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bornblues64
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I see this squad he has assembled as a bit of a last chance saloon for him, its up to him really if he cant make it work with in his words "the best squad ive had down here" then its goodnight . Simple as.

He is still unproven in this league, he has been lucky to get another chance at it , if he fails here again he will be destined to be a lower league manager for the rest of his days, will he be a "nearly man" as a manager just the same as he was a "nearly man" as a player?

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He certainly hasn't lost the fans. Most fans realise that it was always going to be difficult to come straight up and win matches, as both Derby and Sunderland are finding. He is also in the process of building a team and, at the moment, they have not gelled.

Today's performance was certainly unacceptable, a fact he admitted himself, but I fully expect much better things as the season progresses. Bruce has the nucleus of a very good side, but most are still young and will make mistakes. However, if we keep backing them with our support they could give us something to be proud of.

I am pleased with the players Bruce has brought in and they and Bruce deserve a chance to show what they can do.
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I would like to see how how the new lads - Oubina, Palacios and De Ridder fit in and perform. They could give us the quality. But if we keep playing like this and lose our next 3 (Bolton, Utd, Liverpool I think) then the pressure could mount.

Also, look at Sven at Man City and Harry Redknapp at Portsmouth a while back - having a whole load of new players in at once is not necessarily a big problem to the best managers
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Willie
Sep 1 2007, 07:41 PM
Lucky
Sep 1 2007, 08:37 PM
bcfcno1fan
Sep 1 2007, 08:34 PM
Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss..  :)


Up the Blues  **thumbup

it will soon be a bruce out post

I was thinking more along the lines of how many threads do we need which all asking the same basic question.. :banghead:

and its the same plonker starting them all off
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bcfcno1fan
Sep 1 2007, 07:34 PM
Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss.. :)


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Dont think it has anything to do with Bruce in/out at the moment!

The finger has to pointed firmly at the owners and thier lack of backing!

It seems ATM we have current owners who wish not to go further and a prospective owner who cant make his mind up? this I believe makes Steve Bruce cannon fodder plus is unfair.

The bloke can only use what is provided to him, 9mil one week then its gone when req before the window???

It seems this early we could hit trouble due to lack of foresight by the ownwers "yet again"
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westcountryblue
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Brummie 1875
Sep 1 2007, 08:39 PM
Bruce in, lose to bolton i might change my mind.

Fickle
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bornblues64
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stansolo
Sep 1 2007, 08:15 PM
bcfcno1fan
Sep 1 2007, 07:34 PM
Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss..  :)


Up the Blues  **thumbup

Dont think it has anything to do with Bruce in/out at the moment!

The finger has to pointed firmly at the owners and thier lack of backing!

It seems ATM we have current owners who wish not to go further and a prospective owner who cant make his mind up? this I believe makes Steve Bruce cannon fodder plus is unfair.

The bloke can only use what is provided to him, 9mil one week then its gone when req before the window???

It seems this early we could hit trouble due to lack of foresight by the ownwers "yet again"

"But I have to say I am very pleased with the business we've done. Arguably, this is the best squad I have seen. Certainly it's young, with a lot to prove".

Bruces own words, seems he isnt blaming the board.

Of course hed like more money etc but what manager on this earth doesnt want more??


He'll be found out one way or the other especially with statements like that.

So go on Steve, you've got your best squad now prove you can manage.!!!!
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Ibstockblue
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Just got back from the game and for me its Bruce in the Board out, I am sick of being conned by Mr Sullivan, the transfer window has closed and you have let us fans down big time yet again. Where is the investment, we are being beaten by teams that have invested in one or two quality players that make the difference. It is you that is denying us this quality player. Where is our money? not your money the clubs money? the fans money? the £60 million that was the big prize for promotion. Dont tell us it down to poor season tcket sales, Blues fans have got to the point where they want to see your commitmant first instead of being criticised for theirs. If you lived in the real world you would realise the value of a season ticket to the avarage blues fan.I didnt want to be conned by you, this week I will buy my ST, but now I buy it on my terms, I wont feel that you have conned me now I have seen your minimal investment , even though I cannot guarantee through work commitments what games I will be able to attend. Its not Birmingham supporters who are letting our club down its you, lack of investment, lack of commitment, lack of genuine love for our club. A unfinished ground, put on hold because you want someone else to invest in a new ground, you cant even sell us properly and leave us in limbo. So now we have owners that want to sell and a buyer that wont commit to a complete buyout. Where is our money, why havn't we invested like others.its because you just want to sell us and dont give a c**p. How dare you blame us supporters, if you invested the same percentage of your earning as the avarage Blues fan then you have the right to criticise us. Bruce in with a board that backs him with true investment, not just words.
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brimful of bovril Posted: Sep 1 2007, 09:03 PMI would like to see how how the new lads - Oubina, Palacios and De Ridder fit in and perform. They could give us the quality. But if we keep playing like this and lose our next 3 (Bolton, Utd, Liverpool I think) then the pressure could mount.

Also, look at Sven at Man City and Harry Redknapp at Portsmouth a while back - having a whole load of new players in at once is not necessarily a big problem to the best managers


Agree with this post. Need to see if these new players can make a difference. But its gonna have to be pretty quick or morale will plummet and fans will become restless.



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doublekill
Sep 1 2007, 08:17 PM
Brummie 1875
Sep 1 2007, 08:39 PM
Bruce in, lose to bolton i might change my mind.

Fickle

Your fickle. You cant even post a thread that gets your point accross properly. Also can you tel me WTF is fickle about my comment.
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tevets
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Out. He should have gone three years ago.

The board have to take a large part of the blame because they are often too cautious and they are the only reason Bruce is still with us. However, we have used the same Championship tactic for years with the same kind of poor football and that is totally down to Bruce.

Once again we have a decent squad made to look like a pub team. We have had the same problems on the field for years and the only constant is Bruce. Forget giving him more time, bring some one in who will play the players to their strengths rather than shoehorn them into poor tactics.
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Sep 1 2007, 08:37 PM
Just got back from the game and for me its Bruce in the Board out, I am sick of being conned by Mr Sullivan, the transfer window has closed and you have let us fans down big time yet again. Where is the investment, we are being beaten by teams that have invested in one or two quality players that make the difference. It is you that is denying us this quality player. Where is our money? not your money the clubs money? the fans money? the £60 million that was the big prize for promotion. Dont tell us it down to poor season tcket sales, Blues fans have got to the point where they want to see your commitmant first instead of being criticised for theirs. If you lived in the real world you would realise the value of a season ticket to the avarage blues fan.I didnt want to be conned by you, this week I will buy my ST, but now I buy it on my terms, I wont feel that you have conned me now I have seen your minimal investment , even though I cannot guarantee through work commitments what games I will be able to attend. Its not Birmingham supporters who are letting our club down its you, lack of investment, lack of commitment, lack of genuine love for our club. A unfinished ground, put on hold because you want someone else to invest in a new ground, you cant even sell us properly and leave us in limbo. So now we have owners that want to sell and a buyer that wont commit to a complete buyout. Where is our money, why havn't we invested like others.its because you just want to sell us and dont give a c**p. How dare you blame us supporters, if you invested the same percentage of your earning as the avarage Blues fan then you have the right to criticise us. Bruce in with a board that backs him with true investment, not just words.

spot on :applause:
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bluenose1875
Sep 1 2007, 08:55 PM
kevinc_uk
Sep 1 2007, 08:37 PM
Just got back from the game and for me its Bruce in the Board out, I am sick of being conned by Mr Sullivan, the transfer window has closed and you have let us fans down big time yet again. Where is the investment, we are being beaten  by teams that have invested in one or two quality players that make the difference. It is you that is denying us this quality player. Where is our money? not your money the clubs money? the fans money? the £60 million that was the big prize for promotion. Dont tell us it down to poor season tcket sales, Blues fans have got to the point where they want to see your commitmant first instead of being criticised for theirs. If you lived in the real world you would realise the value of a season ticket to the avarage blues fan.I didnt want to be conned by you, this week I will buy my ST, but now I buy it on my terms, I wont feel that you have conned me now I have seen your minimal investment , even though I cannot guarantee through work commitments what games I will be able to attend. Its not Birmingham supporters who are letting our club down its you, lack of investment, lack of commitment, lack of genuine love for our club. A unfinished ground, put on hold because you want someone else to invest in a new ground, you cant even sell us properly and leave us in limbo. So now we have owners that want to sell and a buyer that wont commit to a complete buyout. Where is our money, why havn't we invested like others.its because you just want to sell us and dont give a c**p. How dare you blame us supporters, if you invested the same percentage of your earning as the avarage Blues fan then you have the right to criticise us. Bruce in with a board that backs him with true investment, not just words.

spot on :applause:

Completely agreed **thumbup
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bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 09:29 PM
stansolo
Sep 1 2007, 08:15 PM
bcfcno1fan
Sep 1 2007, 07:34 PM
Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss..  :)


Up the Blues  **thumbup

Dont think it has anything to do with Bruce in/out at the moment!

The finger has to pointed firmly at the owners and thier lack of backing!

It seems ATM we have current owners who wish not to go further and a prospective owner who cant make his mind up? this I believe makes Steve Bruce cannon fodder plus is unfair.

The bloke can only use what is provided to him, 9mil one week then its gone when req before the window???

It seems this early we could hit trouble due to lack of foresight by the ownwers "yet again"

"But I have to say I am very pleased with the business we've done. Arguably, this is the best squad I have seen. Certainly it's young, with a lot to prove".

Bruces own words, seems he isnt blaming the board.

Of course hed like more money etc but what manager on this earth doesnt want more??


He'll be found out one way or the other especially with statements like that.

So go on Steve, you've got your best squad now prove you can manage.!!!!

well he is not going to say they are rubbish now is he,
potentially they can be good,but will they have time to reach that potential,the prem dont wait for players to get better.
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Sep 1 2007, 08:51 PM
Out.  He should have gone three years ago.

The board have to take a large part of the blame because they are often too cautious and they are the only reason Bruce is still with us.  However, we have used the same Championship tactic for years with the same kind of poor football and that is totally down to Bruce.

Once again we have a decent squad made to look like a pub team.  We have had the same problems on the field for years and the only constant is Bruce.  Forget giving him more time, bring some one in who will play the players to their strengths rather than shoehorn them into poor tactics.


Same old Championship tactic , just doesn't stack up!! Let's at least get the record straight. Not twist the facts to suit the argument. Brucie got us into the Prem. after being at the club less than a season. We finished in a respectable position for three seasons. This included being in our best ever position in the top league!! We came down because our board gambled that Portsmouth were dead and buried. Portsmouth invested heavily and stayed up. We didn't!! During the January transfer window Brucie had to keep changing his priorities everytime a player in a different position got injured. Portsmouth bought in six new players. We bought D J Campbell!!

We came straight back up. Fact. So during Brucie's reign we have spent more time in the Prem. than in the Championship. Fact!!

During their time in the Prem. our conquerers today Middlesborough under the stewardship of Brian Robson, Mc.Claren and Southgate have spent £300m. Just to stay in the league. This season Brucie has spent £7m. net. I think I know who has provided the best value for money and if he had the same funds at his disposal I don't think we would be just trying to stay in the league!!
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bornblues64
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Lucky
Sep 1 2007, 09:06 PM
bornblues64
Sep 1 2007, 09:29 PM
stansolo
Sep 1 2007, 08:15 PM
bcfcno1fan
Sep 1 2007, 07:34 PM
Do you want Bruce to stay, go, or how long would you give him until before it changes?

Not a Bruce Out post, just wondering what people think, and what he has to do to win back the fans, or has he lost them yet?

Discuss..  :)


Up the Blues  **thumbup

Dont think it has anything to do with Bruce in/out at the moment!

The finger has to pointed firmly at the owners and thier lack of backing!

It seems ATM we have current owners who wish not to go further and a prospective owner who cant make his mind up? this I believe makes Steve Bruce cannon fodder plus is unfair.

The bloke can only use what is provided to him, 9mil one week then its gone when req before the window???

It seems this early we could hit trouble due to lack of foresight by the ownwers "yet again"

"But I have to say I am very pleased with the business we've done. Arguably, this is the best squad I have seen. Certainly it's young, with a lot to prove".

Bruces own words, seems he isnt blaming the board.

Of course hed like more money etc but what manager on this earth doesnt want more??


He'll be found out one way or the other especially with statements like that.

So go on Steve, you've got your best squad now prove you can manage.!!!!

well he is not going to say they are rubbish now is he,
potentially they can be good,but will they have time to reach that potential,the prem dont wait for players to get better.

He bought the squad, its now up to him to make it work. Hes the manager he bought the players in that he wanted.

How many chances are people going to give him and blame performances like today on somebody else?

The manager has had more than enough money during his time here.

Me im sick to death of him doing his self pitying bit about "yes id like more to spend" "im working within a budget" etc etc ad nauseum

Every manager works within a budget ffs unless he gets the Chelsea managers job or Real Madrid.

Its about time he realised if he wants to be treated like a dog its about time he stopped p*****g like a puppy and to stop blaming everyone around him for his mistakes.

After all whom picked and sent the team out today??

David Gold, Ralph Gold, David Sullivan or Hong Kong Fuey????

No Steve Bruce who as usual balmes everyone but himself for a rubbish performance, after 10-11 years of management hes still not worked out that you have to play a player in the position he is actually meant for .

Still give him till Blues go down again eh

What the hell hes ever doen to get this legendary almost god like status amongst some fans i will never work out in two lifetimes .

Hes average at best, poor at worst.
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with bruce still in charge next season we wont have 13700 season ticket holders but approx 11000..

just like when we were rubbish in the prem last time....same again...

our full backs (parnaby,kelly,queudrue) are the worse i have seen...(i exclude sadler)..


a defeat at home to bolton and he MUST GO...

just fed up with seeing the same poor/defensive dross time and time again....


bruce out..



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Get him out NOW! If we cant at least get a crappy little draw against rubbish managed by that ugly mug then Brucey has GOT to go!...........Why do we put up with this rubbish? Not just BCFC but England too with that complete twot Mcclown!
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Sep 1 2007, 10:54 PM
Get him out NOW! If we cant at least get a crappy little draw against rubbish managed by that ugly mug then Brucey has GOT to go!...........Why do we put up with this rubbish? Not just BCFC but England too with that complete twot Mcclown!

Any chance of saying that in English ?? as it makes no sense whatsoever :redcard:
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