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Larsson Not Good Enough; Sweden
Topic Started: Nov 8 2007, 06:29 PM (570 Views)
tampablue
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Lagerback overlooks Larsson
Sweden coach claims Blues man is 'not good enough'
By Kent Hedlundh Last updated: 8th November 2007
Sweden coach Lars Lagerback has chosen not to include Birmingham City's Sebastian Larsson in his squad for the forthcoming Euro 2008 qualifiers as he is 'not good enough'.

Larsson was a surprise inclusion in the manager's last squad; however Lagerback has overlooked the midfielder for the games against Spain and Latvia.

"He is simply not good enough. We have selected a squad with the best players," the 59-year-old tactician said.




Strange for a national manager to burn bridges.
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Lars_Dudley
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I thought he was a fool before those comments. I think he is a fool after those comments.
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Lars_Dudley
Nov 8 2007, 06:30 PM
I thought he was a fool before those comments. I think he is a fool after those comments.

Totally agree

About a third of the Sweden sqaud play in their homeland or other Scandanavian countries which are all about the equivalent to the Conference .... :LMAO:

Rosenberg aside obviously :LMAO:
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Nov 8 2007, 06:37 PM
Rosenberg aside obviously :LMAO:

and Ibrahimovic....but yeah he's a tosser.
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Nov 8 2007, 06:55 PM
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Nov 8 2007, 06:37 PM
Rosenberg aside obviously  :LMAO:

and Ibrahimovic....but yeah he's a tosser.

He plays in ITALY

that was not what I said
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Nov 8 2007, 06:56 PM
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Nov 8 2007, 06:55 PM
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Nov 8 2007, 06:37 PM
Rosenberg aside obviously  :LMAO:

and Ibrahimovic....but yeah he's a tosser.

He plays in ITALY

that was not what I said

yeah and Markus Rosenberg plays for Werder Bremen...




EDIT: oh you mean BK Rosenborg the football club... i get you.
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Nov 8 2007, 07:00 PM
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Nov 8 2007, 06:56 PM
will_bcfc
Nov 8 2007, 06:55 PM
PartisanBCFC
Nov 8 2007, 06:37 PM
Rosenberg aside obviously  :LMAO:

and Ibrahimovic....but yeah he's a tosser.

He plays in ITALY

that was not what I said

yeah and Markus Rosenberg plays for Werder Bremen...




EDIT: oh you mean BK Rosenborg the football club... i get you.

Quite alright ....sorry I spelled Rosenborg incorrectly first time

Glad somebody 'gets me' at last

made my day that has **thumbup cheers
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Possibly the most narrow minded comment i've read in a while, Larsson deserved his call up and is a excellent football minded player. Their loss!
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Was that a translation of what he said or in his own words. It might sound harsh but ti could just be the way that he translates what he is sayin into SwEnglish?
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Yer i think he is a tw*t for leaving larrson out but hey its our gain because theres no chance of him getting injured while out there :D
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jemmab1234
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Bit of a kick in the you know whats though for Larrson. Intersting to see how he reacts.
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Nov 8 2007, 09:16 PM
Bit of a kick in the you know whats though for Larrson. Intersting to see how he reacts.

hopefully will fire him up and he will be thinking, 'not good enough, ill show him'
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Nov 8 2007, 09:16 PM
Bit of a kick in the you know whats though for Larrson. Intersting to see how he reacts.

hopefully will fire him up and he will be thinking, 'not good enough, ill show him'

That's exactly how he should react, and take it out on them sods on Sunday.
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Nov 8 2007, 11:30 PM
jemmab1234
Nov 8 2007, 09:16 PM
Bit of a kick in the you know whats though for Larrson. Intersting to see how he reacts.

hopefully will fire him up and he will be thinking, 'not good enough, ill show him'

Here's hoping........... :Blues: Larson
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Nov 8 2007, 06:30 PM
I thought he was a fool before those comments. I think he is a fool after those comments.

Totally agree

About a third of the Sweden sqaud play in their homeland or other Scandanavian countries which are all about the equivalent to the Conference .... :LMAO:

Rosenberg aside obviously :LMAO:

Shows what you know and that isnīt much. Swedish league is probably very close to championship sides or better. Swedish national teams success in the last 12 years is far greater than english ones and seems that Euro 2008 will not change that since Sweden is almost certain to play in the last 8 of the competition while english players will be travelling to the alps on their own expense. As a Finn I have to admit that if there is one nationality that has the mental strenght on their side against any team, it is the Swedes.
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I thought he was a fool before those comments. I think he is a fool after those comments.

Totally agree

About a third of the Sweden sqaud play in their homeland or other Scandanavian countries which are all about the equivalent to the Conference .... :LMAO:

Rosenberg aside obviously :LMAO:

Shows what you know and that isnīt much. Swedish league is probably very close to championship sides or better. Swedish national teams success in the last 12 years is far greater than english ones and seems that Euro 2008 will not change that since Sweden is almost certain to play in the last 8 of the competition while english players will be travelling to the alps on their own expense. As a Finn I have to admit that if there is one nationality that has the mental strenght on their side against any team, it is the Swedes.

Yeah right

Remind me ......I'm sorry I checked the stats and just could NOT find Sweden ever winning the World Cup anywhere or any year ?? :boohoo: I know they hosted it once but then so have Japan,Korea,Mexico,Chile and The USA.....winning it is a whole different kettle of fish

Would you care to enlighten us with PROOF that Sweden have been more successful than England over the last 12 years,I presume you are including the 2 major international tounos on the football calendar,the World Cup and the European Championships ???

I find that a little hard to digest to be honest wtf**
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Nov 8 2007, 06:30 PM
I thought he was a fool before those comments. I think he is a fool after those comments.

Totally agree

About a third of the Sweden sqaud play in their homeland or other Scandanavian countries which are all about the equivalent to the Conference .... :LMAO:

Rosenberg aside obviously :LMAO:

Shows what you know and that isnīt much. Swedish league is probably very close to championship sides or better. Swedish national teams success in the last 12 years is far greater than english ones and seems that Euro 2008 will not change that since Sweden is almost certain to play in the last 8 of the competition while english players will be travelling to the alps on their own expense. As a Finn I have to admit that if there is one nationality that has the mental strenght on their side against any team, it is the Swedes.

Yeah right

Remind me ......I'm sorry I checked the stats and just could NOT find Sweden ever winning the World Cup anywhere or any year ?? :boohoo: I know they hosted it once but then so have Japan,Korea,Mexico,Chile and The USA.....winning it is a whole different kettle of fish

Would you care to enlighten us with PROOF that Sweden have been more successful than England over the last 12 years,I presume you are including the 2 major international tounos on the football calendar,the World Cup and the European Championships ???

I find that a little hard to digest to be honest wtf**

Yes I was talking about national teams since that is the only real way to compare swedish players to english ones. As you know most of the top players in Premier league arenīt english (especially the top ones). Mostly I did this comparison because english arrogance something unbeliavable. I was thinking should I even start to talk about World cup 94 since it was 13 years ago but you turned it up a notch and started talking about something that happened over 40 years ago and has nothing what so ever to do with the crisis that the english football is in at the moment. You have an incompetent coach coaching players who are going to go all the way every two years but end up crashing out before the competition even starts. It is hard to see basis for this sort of arrogance. But hey. You won 40 years ago. Had you even been born back then?

I follow actively Premier league and Forssell is the reason that im even registered to this forum. So it canīt be argued that I have something against the english league because from the foreign leagues it is very easily my favourite one but the reason I had to answer to your post is that you had no sense of relativity and probably have never seen foreign teams play other than in CL. I watch every year loads of Bundesliga, La liga, Allsvenskan (swedish top level) and finnish Veikkausliiga. This gives a lot bigger picture when you start talking about which league is on which level.
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Thought this thread was about Larsson, and Lagerbeck's comments? :Blues:
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I thought he was a fool before those comments. I think he is a fool after those comments.

Totally agree

About a third of the Sweden sqaud play in their homeland or other Scandanavian countries which are all about the equivalent to the Conference .... :LMAO:

Rosenberg aside obviously :LMAO:

Shows what you know and that isnīt much. Swedish league is probably very close to championship sides or better. Swedish national teams success in the last 12 years is far greater than english ones and seems that Euro 2008 will not change that since Sweden is almost certain to play in the last 8 of the competition while english players will be travelling to the alps on their own expense. As a Finn I have to admit that if there is one nationality that has the mental strenght on their side against any team, it is the Swedes.

Yeah right

Remind me ......I'm sorry I checked the stats and just could NOT find Sweden ever winning the World Cup anywhere or any year ?? :boohoo: I know they hosted it once but then so have Japan,Korea,Mexico,Chile and The USA.....winning it is a whole different kettle of fish

Would you care to enlighten us with PROOF that Sweden have been more successful than England over the last 12 years,I presume you are including the 2 major international tounos on the football calendar,the World Cup and the European Championships ???

I find that a little hard to digest to be honest wtf**

Yes I was talking about national teams since that is the only real way to compare swedish players to english ones. As you know most of the top players in Premier league arenīt english (especially the top ones). Mostly I did this comparison because english arrogance something unbeliavable. I was thinking should I even start to talk about World cup 94 since it was 13 years ago but you turned it up a notch and started talking about something that happened over 40 years ago and has nothing what so ever to do with the crisis that the english football is in at the moment. You have an incompetent coach coaching players who are going to go all the way every two years but end up crashing out before the competition even starts. It is hard to see basis for this sort of arrogance. But hey. You won 40 years ago. Had you even been born back then?

I follow actively Premier league and Forssell is the reason that im even registered to this forum. So it canīt be argued that I have something against the english league because from the foreign leagues it is very easily my favourite one but the reason I had to answer to your post is that you had no sense of relativity and probably have never seen foreign teams play other than in CL. I watch every year loads of Bundesliga, La liga, Allsvenskan (swedish top level) and finnish Veikkausliiga. This gives a lot bigger picture when you start talking about which league is on which level.

Errmmm ! actually I was born way before England won the WC in 1966 and thanks for reminding me of my age ......that's really cheered me up no end

Couldn't help notice you failed to answer my original question about Sweden being more successful than England over the last 12 years....why you bought up the 94 WC I have no clue but if I recall Brazil beat Italy on penalty kicks in the Final so what's your point ?? .........Oh we didn't qualify,eh ?? True but we didn't in 1974 and 1978 either during an era when our CLUB sides (notably Liverpool and Forest) were winning EVERY major prize in Europe

Why have you hi-jacked this thread about Larrson and turned it into a debate on Forssell or English arrogance ???
Actually I'd consider Rooney,Owen,Gerrard,Ferdinand and a few others to be all TOP players also and the only other leagues in Europe to even rival the Premiership would be Italy's serie A or Spain's La Liga
You're probably quite right about Maclaren ......it's wait and see on him although would YOU want to do his job given there is no pleasing our very own belligerent,offensive and demanding sports media ??? I know I wouldn't
As for Forssell he has really only had ONE good season with Brum and that was a season when he was only on loan to us
Since then he has been a huge disappointment and has also had two lengthy spells spells out due to injury,not his fault of course but yet David Dunn was openly crucified for the exact same reasoning......Whether he (Forssell) recaptures that form of 2003/04 remains to be seen but I still have niggling doubts...he just doesn't seem like The Forse of old IMHO

By the way I wouldn't have thought it wise to come onto a English club fan site and accuse the English of being arrogant and shine a torch for all these foreign players.......hardly going to make you any friends............I merely criticised the standard of Swedish club football,it certainly wasn't a slur on the nation in general

Going back to topic finally.....why would the Swedish coach SELECT Larrson for the last round of qualifiers,the player must have been 'good enough' then........Why NOW is he claiming Seb is NOT good enough ?? Do players suddenly become BAD overnight ??? ....I don't think so

Before you take aim at the English national coach..........please check out the scruples of the Swedish boss first.....I think that's the point we are making

Oh Final Note........WHY oh! WHY would I want to watch foreign teams OTHER than competing in the Champions League.........that is the number one club prize on the planet.....sorry,that comment did not make a lot of sense with all respect.....relativity I leave to the experts.....like Albert Einstein :lager:
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lets hope larson trys to prove him wrong on sunday and for rest of the season and gets back in the squad!!
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drizl..........your name is apt......drizzle..

you quote......."Yes I was talking about national teams since that is the only real way to compare swedish players to english ones"............if swedish players, yes throw tennis in too if you like.........did not play outside Sweden........you would have no argument.

the platform is set in the Premiership and probably championship, which allows foreign players to be coached at, play at and be paid at levels far above thier childhood dreams, and far greater than those in their home countries........yep, including Australia.

As for being arrogant, please do not delude yourself and mix pride with arrogance.............you are made welcome here, can voice your opiions, but by your own admision you do so, on the basis of one player.........who himself has a lot to thank the blues for.this my friend is a BCFC Forum........not a forsell forum.

finally........i would have to say, if you went on all the Forums of all the teams who have a Swedish or Finnish player, no doubt you would be commenting on the mechanics of mercedes, the beauty of ferrari or the grace of the matador.

Swedes, have been great competitors over the years, we all appreciate that.......however, without the opportunities offered by the proud and fair minded Brits.......we may never have heard of most of them.

get your fur coat on, its cold outside.

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  I follow actively Premier league and Forssell is the reason that im even registered to this forum. 


Shame that he is constantly damn injured then isnt it.
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......and going back to the subject Larsson should be in that Sweden squad anyway.
Even if the Swedish division is the same standard as the championship, Larsson did great last season in the championship and has done well so far in the premiership, just unlucky that he got ill a couple of weeks ago else he'd still be in our starting XI but looks like he'll probably have to settle for a spot on the bench come Sunday. He'll get another chance though. **thumbup
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