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Hit And Hope Tactics
Topic Started: Nov 11 2007, 02:56 PM (402 Views)
Blooboy
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doom and gloom I am afraid in this post. I have kept quiet for weeks but now I feel the need to post following this result. I am just fed up of the hit and hope employed tactics from steve bruce :crying:
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PA_nomore!
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I'm not having none of that Poo.

Bruce employed brilliant attacking tactics, good passing by Muamba, Nafti, de Ridder, Kapo drifting around Jerome energy, touch and passing good.

Very impressed by Mikael Forssell. VERY impressed. The second he stepped on the pitch and started running towards a defender I thought he was running quicker than before. His mobility showed when he got infront of his marker. Brilliant lay off to Cameron.

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bluenosebryan
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yep im an anti-bruce but have to admit we played villa scum of the park today and the censored.er referee didnt help who seemed to make every decision go against us ,i think we did ourselves proud today :banner:
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djmmusic
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I agree about Forssell - I've never seen him so nimble looking and the header was sublime. We played an excellent game - with passion too. A draw may have been fair. I'm gutted we've lost but you certainly can't put it down to lack of endeavour.
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If . . . and . . . and . . . but

If their keeper hadn't made the save of the match from Jerome

And Agbonlahor hadn't cleared off the line

And the referee hadn't missed two blatant penalty claims we would be celebrating an excellent win

But, none of those things happened and so we're bemoaning a loss.


You win some, you lose some. Some things go for you, some things go against you. However, we certainly seem to be more often on the wrong side of poor decisions and good defending, whereas any mistake we make are always punished.

The tide will turn soon. It has to, because we are due our share of luck.
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Dazzadooby73
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I wouldn't say we played them off the park but we did well. Started off with enthusiam and pace although Villa took over following the own goal and dominated for the remainder of the first half. Second half, we were by far the better team. The players worked for each other and The Forse looked really hungry. The disappointment is the result. I've had to take a barrage of calls and texts from my Villa mates but so far they've been quite gentle.
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We have only just come back up again and we have a young inexperienced side.

we will get better.

we did make mistakes but we should not be ashamed at the players efforts.

:Blues:
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We looked good again changing to 4-4-2.

We started well, but then conceded, me need to make use of out attacking play.

I still think we shouldve started with jerome and forssell, because we brought them on, and they worked well and created chances, however, jerome is then bought off, we go and lose 2-1.

4-4-2 from the start, please Bruce, just try it.

We stayed up for 3 years using it, why change??

:( KRO
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bcfcno1fan
Nov 11 2007, 03:45 PM
We looked good again changing to 4-4-2.

We started well, but then conceded, me need to make use of out attacking play.

I still think we shouldve started with jerome and forssell, because we brought them on, and they worked well and created chances, however, jerome is then bought off, we go and lose 2-1.

4-4-2 from the start, please Bruce, just try it.

We stayed up for 3 years using it, why change??

:( KRO

Steve said on BRMB that if he had the right players he would always play 4 4 2.

Go figure Steve.
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Blues4eva
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I'll probably get slaughterd for this but I have one or 2 points to make, for a start why on earth should Bruce think about playing Palacios with his family problem AND in a game like this is beyond me, why NOT start the Forss?, all that nonsense about it's too soon, my ****, he's just played 3 full games for the reseves and score 2 hattricks, I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jerome couldn't score in a brothel, he's the one who needs to spend some time in the reserves to get his confidence back in front of goal.
My final point, could it be that Mr Bruce is playing for the sack because of this contract business,?, whatever, we are in a VERY poor run of form and could well be in the bottom 3 by tonight or tomorrow if other results go against us.
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Nov 11 2007, 04:59 PM
bcfcno1fan
Nov 11 2007, 03:45 PM
We looked good again changing to 4-4-2.

We started well, but then conceded, me need to make use of out attacking play.

I still think we shouldve started with jerome and forssell, because we brought them on, and they worked well and created chances, however, jerome is then bought off, we go and lose 2-1.

4-4-2 from the start, please Bruce, just try it.

We stayed up for 3 years using it, why change??

:(  KRO

Steve said on BRMB that if he had the right players he would always play 4 4 2.

Go figure Steve.

Whats wrong with the team he has??

Its like he picks random players, and then does his formation, in fact thats what he must have done, otherwise he wouldn't have changed it.
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He could of started 4.4.2 today so the fact he said he would always prefer to is a complete lie.

You could of today steve but you chose not to.
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bcfcno1fan
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Nov 11 2007, 05:17 PM
He could of started 4.4.2 today so the fact he said he would always prefer to is a complete lie.

You could of today steve but you chose not to.

Which is why he must change for the sake of our Premier League status, and well, if he doesnt, he can go for all i care.

Keep Right On.
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So we played with passion did we and what game was you all watching,We were good untill they scored and for 15 mins after we scored.
We were nearly always second to the knock downs,some of our passing and tackling was like schoolboys and the tactics by Bruce were so wrong again.
Unless something drastic happens soon , I can see us going down again and losing even more fans-I mean we could not sell out today and that is a disgrace for such a small stadium as we have.
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zambo
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Nov 11 2007, 03:04 PM
Very impressed by Mikael Forssell. VERY impressed. The second he stepped on the pitch and started running towards a defender I thought he was running quicker than before. His mobility showed when he got infront of his marker. Brilliant lay off to Cameron.

After the number of goals he's scored of late, he must have been brimming with confidence, so why didn't the moment he stepped on the pitch coincide with the start of the game?
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tamworth_blue
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what amazed me was that after we scored how many times did De Ridder or the Forse get the ball? We reverted to hit and hope balls and sat back allowing them to force the pressure
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And how many times DE Ridder was free to skip past their left back and we played the wrong pass.
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BlueBlockster
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I've reserved my judgements this season, but today i think i've seen enougn now to form my opinion so far.

Today We had absolutely no composure in our play. Lost count how many times we gave the ball away instead of taking a touch, and picking out a pass.

I agree with the tactics debate, but i don't think the tactics cost us so much today, our defending did.

The pretty football, never hurt them it was always in our own half, as soon as we could not play keep ball, we launched it, and most of the time it seemed to me it was hit and hope.

I'm not too fussed about losing to the vile, what matters more is staying up than beating them at the moment, yet again we've given sloppy goals away and once again late in the game too.

Our defending hasn't improved all season. We have good individual defensive performances, but no collective. We were unlucky to lose, but i think we are heading down, unless we can start to defend better and stop playing the nonsense 4-5-1 against teams we are capable of giving a game.

On a positive, great to see the Forrs score a great goal and De Ridder looks like he could become a real handful providing we use him properly....

Moan over

Keep right on
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Blooboy
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having sat through the game twice i stand by my original statement, hit and hope. Footie is a very easy game if played with passion, coaching and discipline... we have all three at the club in a abundance, trouble is Steve's teams for whatever reason do not employ those three things for all of the game and i'm afraid that is down to him. In places this afternoon we was brilliant, the goal we scored was to me the best part of the match. Trouble was Villa held their game plan and stayed composed, even under the obvious pressure being applied after we scored. This to me is because Steve continued to make changes after the goal....why?? I support the Blues, i am not critizing because i want to.... i am making observations from my point of view. 4-3-3 at the beginning of the match was to me ridiculous. Steve has been lambasted on here for playing two defensive midfielders, well he excelled himself in this game, at one point it looked like we was playing three!!
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Nov 11 2007, 04:59 PM
bcfcno1fan
Nov 11 2007, 03:45 PM
We looked good again changing to 4-4-2.

We started well, but then conceded, me need to make use of out attacking play.

I still think we shouldve started with jerome and forssell, because we brought them on, and they worked well and created chances, however, jerome is then bought off, we go and lose 2-1.

4-4-2 from the start, please Bruce, just try it.

We stayed up for 3 years using it, why change??

:(  KRO

Steve said on BRMB that if he had the right players he would always play 4 4 2.

Go figure Steve.

one that i do know is that players look more comfortable with 442,
nothing wrong with the one up front but that player has to be able to score goals and also hold play up until the other player break into the box,
we dont have that player right now so for me it has to be 442 until we get better players in january.
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zambo
Nov 11 2007, 04:28 PM
PA_nomore!
Nov 11 2007, 03:04 PM
Very impressed by Mikael Forssell. VERY impressed. The second he stepped on the pitch and started running towards a defender I thought he was running quicker than before. His mobility showed when he got infront of his marker. Brilliant lay off to Cameron.

After the number of goals he's scored of late, he must have been brimming with confidence, so why didn't the moment he stepped on the pitch coincide with the start of the game?

Dont be silly zambo.... logical decisions and sb go together like spock and a klingon.
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