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| Larsson; Medial Ligament damage | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Mar 17 2008, 11:39 PM (2,603 Views) | |
| PartisanBCFC | Mar 19 2008, 03:16 AM Post #51 |
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Totally agree with everyone's sentiment that Butt went out to 'DO" Larsson The FA have complete power to punish any challenge that went unoticed or unpunished by the referee We should urge BCFC to ask the FA to look at the video :copno: Nothing to do with the Taylor/Eduardo incident .........this was a different game ,different opponents and a different tackle....... Franscar.....what you don't seem to realise is that Martin Taylor's tackle was an accident that sent shockwaves through football simply due to the extent of the injury to one of world's brightest young players.......Be all and end all Butt's tackle was malicious and with intent to hurt .......that too is different Come on Mr Gold/Mr Sullivan.......time for us to react to a type of challenge that is clearly harming the image of the sport KRO |
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| username | Mar 19 2008, 06:01 AM Post #52 |
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Have to reply to this, he was pretty awful, gives no outlet for murphy cant beat a man, chases shadows, an empty shirt, like playing with ten men, how you can say he played well last night. it hurts me to say this has he was a revelation when he first came to blues, but at best he's championship quality :crying: |
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| pop_pop | Mar 19 2008, 08:19 AM Post #53 |
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For it to be a tackle doesn't the ball need to be somewhere near the incident :kiss: |
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| paul0991 | Mar 19 2008, 11:37 AM Post #54 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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Any news on the injury ?? |
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| jassyblue80 | Mar 19 2008, 01:17 PM Post #55 |
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Trevor Francis
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so the same as every one else.... just speculation!! |
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| franscar | Mar 19 2008, 01:27 PM Post #56 |
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Mikael Forssell
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How exactly are you and the others so absolutely sure that Nicky Butt did something completely out of character and intentionally injured a fellow professional and yet Martin Taylor could not have done? The hypocrisy is tragic. |
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| tim | Mar 19 2008, 01:30 PM Post #57 |
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Malcom Page
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because we watched both tackles live and the intent was blatent in one and not the other. |
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| franscar | Mar 19 2008, 01:40 PM Post #58 |
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Mikael Forssell
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And if the boot was on the other foot and Eduardo had broken Taylor's leg I'm sure that would've been "blatant" as well. They were both merely poor challenges that both deserved a yellow card, it is only the fact that a Blues player was on the wrong end of one challenge that it's being called malicious while the other one isn't. |
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| tim | Mar 19 2008, 01:47 PM Post #59 |
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Malcom Page
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Every single person in St. Andrews on Monday saw how late and intentional Nicky Butts challenge was - especially after being pushed off the pitch just before that. Assuming you were there, you are in a minority of 1 that thinks otherwise. |
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| MikaelForssell | Mar 19 2008, 01:56 PM Post #60 |
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Taylor's - You can see he went for the ball, the only reason this term "intent" has come about is the fact that the incident happened within 3 minutes of the match. If this tackle was in say, the 64th minute, it wouldnt be classed as intent, as he could of 'done him' in the early minutes. Butt's - After Larsson getting the better of him by the dugouts, Butt was p***** off and wouldn't even shake Seb's hand when he got up showing what he thought of it, then a few minutes later, with no chance whatsoever of playing the ball, coming straight through the back of him and kicking him? Its obvious he was still bitter about the previous incident, so wanted revenge on Larsson. The pressure on Newcastle, one-nil down, to a relegation rival obviously heated the situation, and Butt saw the oppertunity to kick our best player out of the game to try and gain them an advantage, which they had second half. Personally, if Larsson had been able to continue second half, I think we would of won |
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| Jim Jimmeney | Mar 19 2008, 02:03 PM Post #61 |
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Spot on Frans. There is no doubt it was Butts intention to foul, we have no idea if it was his intent to injure. Butt should have had a yellow for his challenge as that is all it was worth, the rest of this debate is just Blue tinted glasses v common sense. People are simply over reacting due to the over reaction after Taylors challenge. For the record Larsson's barge of Butt into the bench was in response to an earlier challenge from Butt who then retaliated again to the barge. In all reality the ref should have had a word with both of them after Larsson's barge and then Butt wouldn’t have retaliated a 2nd time. However the ref didn't and Butt got to retaliate again and it was then that the ref gave him a final warning. Apart from that one error in judgement the ref actually had a good game and let the match flow well. As it happens I was sitting in the Trevor Francis suite (instead of my normal Tilton) for the game so I could watch the replays. On Seb's injury Butt even got a bit of the ball he just went through Seb to get it, it should have been a yellow, it wasn't and now we need to get over it. I was more offended by the fools who booed at full time than by Butt's tackle. |
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| Pompey Bluenose | Mar 19 2008, 02:47 PM Post #62 |
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I thought that in a match if the referee has seen the incident first hand and dealt with it at the time, it couldn't be investigated again ? He saw it quite clearly as a foul but a non-bookable offence and so there is nothing The F.A. can do about it. :angry: Get back soon Seb :) |
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| doc nick | Mar 19 2008, 02:51 PM Post #63 |
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Malcom Page
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well no because i remember a sertain mr moriniho getting rather agitated about a foul by savage and the rf said he saw the incident and it did'nt warrent any action but the fa booked savage. so that is not the case and buttocks should be penalised for it. |
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| franscar | Mar 19 2008, 05:01 PM Post #64 |
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I'm obviously not in a minority of one though, hence why McLeish and the players have made absolutely no reference to it, the referee has made no reference to it and nothing at all has been done about it. It was a foul, should've been a yellow card, but these motives being attributed to Butt's actions are nothing more than bitterness being masqueraded as fact. We should leave those flights of fancy to Arsenal supporters, who are much more comfortable in the world of make believe. And for the record I was in the same place in the Tilton that I was for the Taylor-Eduardo challenge, and had a perfect view of both tackles. |
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| fozzylou | Mar 19 2008, 06:14 PM Post #65 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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everyone has missed one glaring point regarding Butt's tackle, just before it happening Muamba's shirt was nearly ripped off his back by Geremi. If the ref had blown up for this foul as he should have done, no foul on Larsson and no injury. Butt probably would have clattered him later though. So I blame the ref first followed by Butt. |
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| thehawk | Mar 19 2008, 07:33 PM Post #66 |
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contray to anyone ouside of St Andrews, we are not a dirty enough team. Newcastle got a point by being very cynical. We did that at West ham, but on the whole don't. Good thing or bad thing? |
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| garconsavage | Mar 19 2008, 10:49 PM Post #67 |
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I find it perverse that some Blues fans take great delight in defending opposition players. They are the first to lamblast one of our own but go to great lengths to defend even the indefensible if the perpetrator happens to be wearing any shirt other than Blues!! Beats me. :banghead: |
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| ESONEULB | Mar 19 2008, 10:51 PM Post #68 |
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So what's the news on the injury? |
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| MikaelForssell | Mar 19 2008, 10:54 PM Post #69 |
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doesnt seem to be any news, the longer it goes without an official word on the injury, the more I worry |
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| paul0991 | Mar 20 2008, 03:05 PM Post #70 |
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Geoff Horsfield
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He should be avaliable for the weekend game and the injury isnt as bad as expected, still nicky "mugg" Butt still should get a 3 match ban for that tackle which deffinatly was retaliation in my eyes. |
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| blueblood | Mar 20 2008, 07:41 PM Post #71 |
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How stupid you all sound, accusing nicky butt of malisousness and deliberatly setting himself out to do Seb. It was a poor challenge he missed the ball and followed through with his other leg, the referee should have cautioned him but didn't. So What? Whats the big deal? Isn't someone wearing a Birmingham City shirt allowed to be tackled for the ball? How can the FA punish Butt for it as the referee obviously saw the foul and gave a free kick? :blink: You all need to move on from the taylor incident because some of you feel every tackle now where a player gets hurt should be a red card. |
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