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The Gaffer; Your thoughts??
Topic Started: Mar 28 2008, 09:06 PM (305 Views)
perksyno9
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i was jut wondering what people thought about alex's relationship with the fans

personally i am DELIGHTED with the amount of interviews with mcCleish on the website

everthing from Set Pieces, to defensive options to injuries with players etc etc etc

i feel like i know what is happening in my club so much more than when bruce was in charge.

anyone agree

j/w

big game tomorow and i'm surprisingly confident
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Bluebird
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Big Mac is a class act....
He is the real Chosen One that we have been waiting for....
Shrewd, intelligent, respectful, aware....
I just hope that he is given the resources to develop and grow our Club....
If so and he proves as successful as I believe he will then maybe he will stay with us for as long as Sir Alex has stayed with Manure....
There is no reason why BCFC cannot satisfy all of Big Mac's ambitions!
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Sorry to appear negative but were currently sitting one place and 1 point of the relegation zone when AM took over we were 16th and 1 point of the relegation zone

http://www.blues.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Leag...0071124,00.html

Mcleish) played 17 won 3 drawn 7 Lost 7 points = 16

Bruce) played 14 won 3 drawn 2 lost 9 points = 11

Bruce at Wigan
Wigan played 17 won 6 drawn 5 Lost 6 points = 23
when Bruce took over at Wigan they were 19th on 9 points 3 points of the safety zone
http://www.wiganlatics.premiumtv.co.uk/pag...0071201,00.html

My point is I dont care how nice the bloke maybe, if people are under the impression that this is wonderful then think again, I hate being in this position and there have been 17 games for it to be changed and what this evidence shows is we are no better off, so ironically the Wigan supporters must think they have been blessed by the second coming by comparison.

I know i'm gonna get slaughtered for this but it's time to wake up and smell the roses
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Albert T
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You're right Username but I always thought that it was going to happen this way. Bruce is an impact manager who has all his success early on but soon runs out of steam and can't get the team playing again. Mccleish on the other hand seems to be able to think and act in the long-term. Whilst results haven't been brilliant I still think we've got the right man in and if we stick with him, in 2,3 years we'll be miles ahead of Brucie and Wigan.
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doc nick
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Mar 28 2008, 10:26 PM
Sorry to appear negative but were currently sitting one place and 1 point of the relegation zone when AM took over we were 16th and 1 point of the relegation zone

http://www.blues.premiumtv.co.uk/page/Leag...0071124,00.html

Mcleish) played 17 won 3 drawn 7 Lost 7 points = 16

Bruce) played 14 won 3 drawn 2 lost 9 points = 11

Bruce at Wigan
Wigan played 17 won 6 drawn 5 Lost 6 points = 23
when Bruce took over at Wigan they were 19th on 9 points 3 points of the safety zone
http://www.wiganlatics.premiumtv.co.uk/pag...0071201,00.html

My point is I dont care how nice the bloke maybe, if people are under the impression that this is wonderful then think again, I hate being in this position and there have been 17 games for it to be changed and what this evidence shows is we are no better off, so ironically the Wigan supporters must think they have been blessed by the second coming by comparison.

I know i'm gonna get slaughtered for this but it's time to wake up and smell the roses

if SB was was here we would be where fulham are now , the way AM has changed us is fantastic at least we have a fighting chance.

SB built a side to be relagated AM has shown us that with even a championship side we have a chance to stay up.

SB has gone to anhalf decent side with better players , i wounder wht will happen when SB bribgs his own players in.

if we stay up in the next few years we will see how good this man is , it all depends on if the board back him.

AM is the man to take us forward.
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Bluebird
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username Posted on Mar 28 2008, 10:26 PM
Sorry to appear negative but were currently sitting one place and 1 point of the relegation zone when AM took over we were 16th and 1 point of the relegation zone

I know i'm gonna get slaughtered for this but it's time to wake up and smell the roses

No slaughter from me username....
You can't argue with facts....
But we had lost seven of our final eight games with SB....
Paul Jewell was successful with Wigan yet has only been able to get four points from seventeen games with Derby....
Compare his attitude and approach with Big Mac's!
With AM its the mind set of the players which has changed....
It has with Derby too but those players believe they will be relegated and that they are not good enough....
That has come from the Manager and they have given up just like their Manager!

Big Mac's approach has taken time and now the players believe in themselves and their ability....
No more hoofball unless they panic and default to SB's brainwashed style....
We are currently better prepared than any of the Teams around us to survive and move forward next Season....
We are also playing better than we have for the past couple of Seasons....
I know that is opinion rather than fact but I actually expect us to win every time we play now....
I can't remember the last time I felt that way!
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I think he is what we have been waiting for and i wish he had joined us before the start of the season rather than half way through.

I am happy with his management style but can't really judge him until he has had a full season with players he likes.

so far so good i just hope we all survive for next years prem season KRO
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doc nick Posted on Mar 29 2008, 01:43 AM

if SB was was here we would be where fulham are now , the way AM has changed us is fantastic at least we have a fighting chance.

SB built a side to be relagated AM has shown us that with even a championship side we have a chance to stay up.

SB has gone to anhalf decent side with better players , i wounder wht will happen when SB bribgs his own players in.

Excellent response nick although I don't agree that Wigwam have better players (GK excepted)....
And also don't forget that the rugby pitch at Wigan is perfectly nurtured for hoofball....
That may be a problem for us though when we visit cos now we have a Team that plays football - ask the Gooners!
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thehawk
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Whoever was boss, isn't where we are now about what we realistically expected at the beginning of the season - a hard strurggle with a chance of surviving?
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My view has not changed since day one,
i have some worries about Alex ,i dont go with the thoughts that he was the best available at the time,
impact wise ,the table does not lie,
for me whoever is to blame made a major boo boo in January by not having a plan b yet again,we went for Cahill but had no plan b,that mistake could prove very very costly,

TACTICLY IN SOME GAMES MORE SO AGAINST THE TEAMS IN OUR GROUP I THINK ALEX HAS NOT DEALT WITH THINGS VERY WELL.
But he is in a win win situation as if we stay up he will be seen as the saviour but if we go down it will be seen as Brucies team so he wont get the blame.
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I must say I agree 100% with username, but at the same time there is something about Mcleish that I like. I don't know what it is, I just can't put my finger on it, the guy has something in his makeup that draws me to lke him. I don't know why though.
Having said that I have been mistaken before.
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Wisel
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Not sure again why we have to judge managers so much on here, the reality is we have who we have and what we can do best is support the individual to the hilt and hope that it works this time. The constant niggling at Steve Bruce was massively negative for the club. We need to show the strength that comes with unity if we are ever to get anywhere. As most of you know I supported Bruce right to the death, no one really knows how much he worried me at times. I will support McLeish in the same way, I have some reservations, but I see no benefit in sharing those thoughts, I will however share what I think is positive about the man. I will always look for the positives and try to minimise the negatives, because finding chinks in our armour just gives the opposition ammunition. Remember we are the ones that see the flaws, others don't, we just feed our foes at times. I always think other clubs' fans must have had a field day coming on here and seeing how unsupported Bruce was.

So, here goes. AM is a very personable, articulate man who has the ability to think on his feet and is honest in his views. I like what he has done so far, and only hope he gets the right time at St Andrews and a fair crack of the whip from fans and the board alike. Unfortunately it seems he is more likely to get that from the board. I also dearly hope he has better luck than Steve Bruce did in our so appalling injury affected relegation year. That was very unfortunate for SB and this club. I like AM's signings and hope he gets the chance to deliver more of a similar quality for Blues. I feel very positive about what he can achieve with this club. I also like the football that AM is serving up, we are far more a footballing side and have an attacking approach to most games. A very good start with high hopes for the future.
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Wisel
Mar 29 2008, 08:59 AM
So, here goes. AM is a very personable, articulate man who has the ability to think on his feet and is honest in his views. I like what he has done so far, and only hope he gets the right time at St Andrews and a fair crack of the whip from fans and the board alike. Unfortunately it seems he is more likely to get that from the board. I also dearly hope he has better luck than Steve Bruce did in our so appalling injury affected relegation year. That was very unfortunate for SB and this club. I like AM's signings and hope he gets the chance to deliver more of a similar quality for Blues. I feel very positive about what he can achieve with this club. I also like the football that AM is serving up, we are far more a footballing side and have an attacking approach to most games. A very good start with high hopes for the future.

**thumbup Agreed Wisel.

He is not , however, perfect otherwise he'd be at the likes of Man U or Real Madrid.

I have seen one negative and that is his failure to change things in a 2nd half when a turnaround is required, he seems to lack the inspiration and conviction to do so.

But to date it is a **thumbup and I would give him 7/10.

PS think back to our home game against Pompey, that's where we were just before he took over.
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I'm pleased with McLeish, he had to pick up a team void of confidence, belief and quality, I have no doubt that the change in management was absolutely the right thing to do, McLeish is by far the better manager and his signings of Murphy and McFadden are the only reason we are not even deeper in the s**t, if we do stay up there's only one way this club is going under his management, so it's a big **thumbup from me.
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"Mcleish at Blues - played 17 won 3 drawn 7 Lost 7 points = 16
Bruce at Wigan - played 17 won 6 drawn 5 Lost 6 points = 23"

I dont think there is any need to be making this comparison, for a start it is based on the very short term.

But more to the point, are you suggesting that Bruce is the better man for the job, because i think the majority of this board are of the opinion that Bruce can build a team that can play premiership football but be destined for a relegation battle every season.

Bruce was here for a very long time, and we can all see there was no long term plan. With Mcleish in the picture i can honestly see a much brighter future.

And finally, most importantly. I enjoy watching blues so much more than under the Bruce regime, and isnt that what its all about. Enjoying watching your club play football. I now have belief that we will score when we go forward, where as under bruce i'd just hope we dont concede becuse i couldnt see a goal coming.
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doc nick
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Mar 29 2008, 07:40 AM
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doc nick Posted on Mar 29 2008, 01:43 AM

if SB was was here we would be where fulham are now , the way AM has changed us is fantastic at least we have a fighting chance.

SB built a side to be relagated AM has shown us that with even a championship side we have a chance to stay up.

SB has gone to anhalf decent side with better players , i wounder wht will happen when SB bribgs his own players in.

Excellent response nick although I don't agree that Wigwam have better players (GK excepted)....
And also don't forget that the rugby pitch at Wigan is perfectly nurtured for hoofball....
That may be a problem for us though when we visit cos now we have a Team that plays football - ask the Gooners!

yes there pitch is in a state but as you say it's perfect for an SB side he uses the wings alot and by passes the midfield with long balls.

we do the same but we do play more football through the middle of the park which will not suit us as much as wigan, as you say just look how it hampered arsenal.
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