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Queudrue; "Dedicated to this Club ...."
Topic Started: Aug 7 2008, 09:31 AM (1,179 Views)
bluebel
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“Am I happy to see my contract out? Of course,” Queudrue said. “I am dedicated to this club ...." :blink: :whistle:

http://www.birminghampost.net/midlands-bir...65233-21478214/

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Is he happy playing for the reserves then?
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bluebel
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tilley2k7
Aug 7 2008, 10:46 AM
Is he happy playing for the reserves then?

I think he is happy picking up £20k a week
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bluebel
Aug 7 2008, 10:17 AM
tilley2k7
Aug 7 2008, 10:46 AM
Is he happy playing for the reserves then?

I think he is happy picking up £20k a week

He could of said a lot of worst things and in my opinion he actually has not done a lot wrong at the club, well apart from returning late to training which after a holiday im always late for work lol.
i mean in playing, he has been 100% commited, harshly judged as a piece of rubbish as i actually though he looked a decent player even more when you compare him to the other donkeys we have at the back. after all its not his fault he is on 20k a week
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bluenose69
Aug 7 2008, 11:00 AM
bluebel
Aug 7 2008, 10:17 AM
tilley2k7
Aug 7 2008, 10:46 AM
Is he happy playing for the reserves then?

I think he is happy picking up £20k a week

He could of said a lot of worst things and in my opinion he actually has not done a lot wrong at the club, well apart from returning late to training which after a holiday im always late for work lol.
i mean in playing, he has been 100% commited, harshly judged as a piece of rubbish as i actually though he looked a decent player even more when you compare him to the other donkeys we have at the back. after all its not his fault he is on 20k a week

This is where the whole contact situation needs sorting out, we have a player in Franck who the club do clearly not want i.e. offering him out as a free transfer and offering to cancel his remaining two years but no because Franck has had no offers he's happy to pick up 20K a week until his contract terminates and Blues can do nothing.

Then we have players like Larsson and McFadden who are on similar contract terms but possibly both want out and we all know if there is enough pressure they most likely will be let go of, with Larssons agent already bleating about playing it fair, I wonder why we have heard nothing from Francks agent ...eh!!!

The whole contract situation nees to be resolved so a player under contract is exactly that until the end of the contract he his agent and the club all agreed on....no arguments!!
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tilley2k7
Aug 7 2008, 09:46 AM
Is he happy playing for the reserves then?

Have we got enough players for a reserve team?
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Aug 7 2008, 11:43 AM
a player under contract is exactly that until the end of the contract he his agent and the club all agreed on....no arguments!!

I doubt you would accept that if someone offered you double the money?

Whats the difference?
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tim
Aug 7 2008, 12:45 PM
turunc
Aug 7 2008, 11:43 AM
a player under contract is exactly that until the end of the contract he his agent and the club all agreed on....no arguments!!

I doubt you would accept that if someone offered you double the money?

Whats the difference?

The whole point of a contract is that all parties agree to conditions and salaries throughout the term of the contract. There seems little point in signing a contract and then due to a good season and interest from another club be it double your money or not you wish to break the contract? Simple if players leave a club a substantial penalty should be enforced by the FA/FIFA to swap all this changing clubs every year.

Based on your double your money suggestion, how about when a player has a bad season, no one wants him maybe the club should say hey sod the contract were halfing your salary!!! works both ways doesn't it no actually it doesn't, which was the point I was trying to make.

Players want contracts as it covers them when injured and when they play bad they have security, problem is they want the best of both worlds!!

The difference between me and them Tim is I am not on 20k a week with all the perks thrown in, I am also not on a contract guaranteeing me that salary for the next few years. If I was employed on a standard contract then yes I would move, but then if I had a sports injury, which kept me off work for twelve months or I was not performing to the standards they expect do you think my employer would keep paying me a full salary throughout the term or even keep me on???
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If he is happy at the club stick him at the back along side Ridgewell on saturday ,Tiny frightens me to death.
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turunc
Aug 7 2008, 01:11 PM
tim
Aug 7 2008, 12:45 PM
turunc
Aug 7 2008, 11:43 AM
a player under contract is exactly that until the end of the contract he his agent and the club all agreed on....no arguments!!

I doubt you would accept that if someone offered you double the money?

Whats the difference?

The whole point of a contract is that all parties agree to conditions and salaries throughout the term of the contract. There seems little point in signing a contract and then due to a good season and interest from another club be it double your money or not you wish to break the contract? Simple if players leave a club a substantial penalty should be enforced by the FA/FIFA to swap all this changing clubs every year.

Based on your double your money suggestion, how about when a player has a bad season, no one wants him maybe the club should say hey sod the contract were halfing your salary!!! works both ways doesn't it no actually it doesn't, which was the point I was trying to make.

Players want contracts as it covers them when injured and when they play bad they have security, problem is they want the best of both worlds!!

The difference between me and them Tim is I am not on 20k a week with all the perks thrown in, I am also not on a contract guaranteeing me that salary for the next few years. If I was employed on a standard contract then yes I would move, but then if I had a sports injury, which kept me off work for twelve months or I was not performing to the standards they expect do you think my employer would keep paying me a full salary throughout the term or even keep me on???

I agree with you on the whole - they do want the best of both worlds and that is wrong.

Fifa have introduced this buying out your contract if you have less than 12 months and are over 28 or something like that... so they do have that choice anyway... but why the discrimation against a 26 year old that wants to buy out his contract? He can't? surely that is also wrong??

Also if you are 'employeed' as opposed to 'self employed' you would instantly expect to be given sick pay and a certain amount of 'Paid sick leave'... and if you were injured doing the job you are paid to do, you would expect a healthy compensation payment to appease your hardship.

I still think my question stands... as we all live to our means... If a double your money is on the table, you, I and the professional footballer should be entitled to take it.

Ask me if we should sell any of our team...I'd say no... we have them on a contract, keep'em to it... it might sound like hypocricy, but its the law as it stands today... it doesn't mean I have to agree with it to implement it! :LOL:

I too wish I had the terrible conundrum of earning so much cash and wanting to move jobs though!!
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Frank has a great attitude towards his football always has done, all we need now is for our manager to let him show that by putting him in team like he should be doing!
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I hope we keep him, with Jaidi injured, Queudre playing as centre back could be a god send in disguise.
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Aug 7 2008, 01:33 PM
tilley2k7
Aug 7 2008, 09:46 AM
Is he happy playing for the reserves then?

Have we got enough players for a reserve team?

We're not playing in the reserves this season
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Who signed off on these bloody contracts?

Frank on £20,000 a week and Seb on £8,000 (now £4,000). Seems like Bruce paid for the "name" and not the form.

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elvis ok
Aug 7 2008, 03:04 PM
Who signed off on these bloody contracts?

Frank on £20,000 a week and Seb on £8,000 (now £4,000). Seems like Bruce paid for the "name" and not the form.

:angry:

Sebs £8000 for playing in the Prem and being Blues best player is peanuts. £20k aint a lot for a prem player either.
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elvis ok
Aug 7 2008, 03:04 PM
Who signed off on these bloody contracts?

Frank on £20,000 a week and Seb on £8,000 (now £4,000). Seems like Bruce paid for the "name" and not the form.

:angry:

People forget Seb wasn't the player he is now, 18 months ago.

He took a while to break in to the team, and was tried at RB, LB, CM, and RM before scoring a few last minute goals and holding down a regular place. When we signed him in January 2007 for £500k he had no real experience, was very young, and was probably pretty happy with that salary.

This season he showed his class, proved he's more than good enough for the Prem, so we've offered him a longer and much better contract, but he's not accepted it - his choice.

If he's on £4k a week as you say, and has 2.5 years left on his contract, it seems were in quite a good position to tell him he's going nowhere, and can rot in the reserves as we can afford it. Especially if we dont get bids in above £5m.
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You all may moan but there is no question that Franck is a good player, good enough for this league and the premierleague. I beleive the decision to make him available on a free transfer was above AM.

And I'm sure Franck did maths at school in france. He knows £20k a week for the next two years is just over £2 Million and why would he walk away from that for anything less. Reminds me of Winston Bogarde in some respects and fair play to them both.
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I would play him ahead of Ridgewell every game. Top class footballer. He does need to feel wanted though and I think the comments made by the board were very detrimental, they now have to pay the wages and live with there own guilt.
I hope McLeish has a good relationship with him and will play him. His ball’s forward are superb, if we had a hard tackling and fast CB playing besides him I would be more than happy.
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Judging by the way Franck jumped about n the touchline when KP scored he is very committed to this team and its achievements.

Sullivan was well out of order singling Queudrue out for criticism, it backfired big time. Unlike the last time he said the same things.

It is more than understandable that Queudrue might have wanted to leave at the beginning of the summer but he is in the squad, seems more than willing to continue giving 100% and deserves our support while he's wearing out shirt.

I am sure McLeish must be happy with him if he is including him in the squad.
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Queudrue wasn't fit enough at the start of last season and had a shocker against Fulham (away) apart from that he did a good job whenever called upon.

Sullivan is a reactionary human being and often says stupid things in the heat of the moment and has little to do with our squad.

I can see him being first choice on the bench simply because he can play CB, LB and in midfield at a push - he has always come across as a decent professional and I doubt McLeish would have him near the first team squad if he was just here for the money.

In many ways the jury is still out on him as he didn't really play enough last season to judge but he is an established PL player and seems to have been popular with supporters and players alike where ever he has played.

It is time to put last season behind us particularly the events of the final day.
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K bek has beat me to it he was absolutely delighted when we scored yesterday, I was well pleased with his reaction when I saw it later on the tv, looked like a good attitude to me
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I'd take any Frank over Tiny Taylor at the heart of our defence. Frank Bough, Frank Spencer, just anybody I don't care.
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Aug 10 2008, 09:59 PM
I'd take any Frank over Tiny Taylor at the heart of our defence. Frank Bough, Frank Spencer, just anybody I don't care.

Most other playes who have been told they can leave on a free would of ruffled a few feathers but quedrue has just got on with it and fair play for him celebrating his team. having him in our squad as back up give me a lot more better then belief than tiny.
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Aug 7 2008, 01:23 PM
If he is happy at the club stick him at the back along side Ridgewell on saturday ,Tiny frightens me to death.

Like the last time I saw him v Man City in April when he played a blinder until he got stitched up and sent off
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Aug 12 2008, 09:32 PM
andy wood
Aug 7 2008, 01:23 PM
If he is happy at the club stick him at the back along side Ridgewell on saturday ,Tiny frightens me to death.

Like the last time I saw him v Man City in April when he played a blinder until he got stitched up and sent off

Yep, he was excellent that day. Marshalled the line well, kept up the communication with Jaidi and the full backs and topped it off with a beautifully judged ball into Zarate for the opening goal.

It was an awful decision that saw him sent off.
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