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Larsson Seeks Exit; Sorry to dampen spirits
Topic Started: Aug 9 2008, 01:47 PM (2,449 Views)
Lars_Dudley
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To be honest, he's got 2 years left on his contract, right? He hasn't accepted a new contract and he says he wants out.

If we keep him for this season, then come June next year, if he still wants to leave, he'll be worth half of what he's worth now as he will only have 1 year left on his contract.

If we don't gain promotion, even though we hung onto Larsson, we will be ruing not selling him when we could've got upwards of £6m for him.

Alternatively, we can keep hoping he'll change his mind and sign a new deal. Or, just let him play out the rest of his contract and see him leave on a free.

Personally, I'd like to see him stay. But I have to agree with Seb that it'd be selfish of us to keep him. He wants to go on to be a first choice player for his country. He won't get that playing for us in the CCC (mind you, he probably won't get that playing anywhere as Sweden's coach Lars is an idiot). But on the other hand, he did sign a contract with no release clause...

If he hands in a transfer request, I won't be bitter about it. He gave his all for us over the last two seasons. I'll simply wish him well and thank him for his efforts.

Moving to the Championship is a step backwards for him. Its plain as day for all of us to see. Even the folk who are trying to make out he's not actually as good as we were saying he was only a week or two ago.
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He is just a passing ship,another in a long line
No longer see any point in forming an attachment to players more just enjoying the time they play for us and accepting that at some point they will move on.I rate Larsson but expect him to leave before the end of the month,his agent will have done the deal already and with the players blessing regardless of what some on here may think.....BCFC can refuse to sell of course and we will be left with a player who will continue to be professional......but gone will be the desire,the heart and the spirit.
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Lars_Dudley
Aug 12 2008, 10:27 AM
To be honest, he's got 2 years left on his contract, right? He hasn't accepted a new contract and he says he wants out.

If we keep him for this season, then come June next year, if he still wants to leave, he'll be worth half of what he's worth now as he will only have 1 year left on his contract.


We've got a two year option on him according to Sullivan in yesterday's Mail.
Therefore he's got four years left.

We paid a million quid for him and we owe Arsenal a big cut of any fee.
Plus, he'll want a slice because he hasn't put a transfer request in writing - poor lad.
Plus his agent will want a slice because his lad hasn't requested a transfer.
I think it's reasonable to assume that if we sold him for 5 - 6 Million all we'd have left would be maybe 2 Million if we were lucky.

I'd rather keep him the four years then let him go on a Bosman.
Much better value.
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SClaridge
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Who cares anyway, never seen why everyone is obsessed with him anyway. He was an average player in a below average team last season. Sell him, can easily replace him. He scored couple of freekicks, which made him a superstar in some peoples eyes, probably the same people who fort Killkenny was the answer to our creative problem.
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tim
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Aug 12 2008, 11:13 AM
Who cares anyway, never seen why everyone is obsessed with him anyway. He was an average player in a below average team last season. Sell him, can easily replace him. He scored couple of freekicks, which made him a superstar in some peoples eyes, probably the same people who fort Killkenny was the answer to our creative problem.

Sorry mate...

I agree with the 'Below Average team' but... I can't agree witht the 'average player' bit.

I'm sure I've written it, but I'm with spike24... keep him, don't let him leave, I'd rather have him in the team for 2 more years than £2m in the bank... but then I don't own the club and unfortunatley we have owners who value £2m more than an excellent player in the team!



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Tim the ideal would be to keep him of course it would,but when the qualities that set him above others last season are taken away he will be left doing nothing more than his job and others will have to carry the weight of that.He will always be professional thats the minimum but its no more than a cliche these days......His effort on saturday will become the norm if he isnt staying of his own free will.
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paulus382004
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average player-end of
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tim
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Aug 12 2008, 11:59 AM
Tim the ideal would be to keep him of course it would,but when the qualities that set him above others last season are taken away he will be left doing nothing more than his job and others will have to carry the weight of that.He will always be professional thats the minimum but its no more than a cliche these days......His effort on saturday will become the norm if he isnt staying of his own free will.

Possibly.

But IMO it swings both ways... :ph43r: he'll never get his dream move if he doesn't put the effort in...
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paulus382004
Aug 12 2008, 12:13 PM
average player-end of

where have all these posts come from, for the last month its been nothing but "Larsson is the answer, we must keep him at all costs" now suddenly hes an average player
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fozzylou
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according to the daily mail, newcastle have offered 4m. what part of f@~k off do they not understand. if muamba has gone for a total of 5.75m larsson is worth much more than this + arsenal no doubt have a sell on clause of 25%.

to be honest if we could get 7-8m and all the funds become available to AMC then sell. i really rate larsson but 7m invested in other players could almost guarantee promotion. he's not irreplaceable and if he's unhappy no doubt his form will be effected if saturday is anything to go by.

i would also insisted larsson puts in a xfer request as he shouldn't be intitled to any loyality bonus. this would effect how much money his agent gets as well which wouldn't be a bad thing.

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He is a very very good player that can be great and when motivated can be everything he wants to be,that hasnt changed.What has is his desire to play for Birmingham City..thats almost impossible to regain unless he is financially encouraged to do so.The reality is setting in for many that sadly seb has stepped on this little stone and now wishes to take the next one......
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Newcastle are asking £8 million plus for Milner ffs
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fozzylou
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Aug 12 2008, 12:42 PM
Newcastle are asking £8 million plus for Milner ffs

good point and our board should be in the press making that known to everyone. by the way milner is quite ordinary.
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Aug 12 2008, 01:39 PM
..thats almost impossible to regain unless he is financially encouraged to do so.

...and he's only on £2k per week more than the Apprentice bird. Can't blame him for being peed off.
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fozzylou
Aug 12 2008, 12:53 PM
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Aug 12 2008, 12:42 PM
Newcastle are asking £8 million plus for Milner ffs

good point and our board should be in the press making that known to everyone. by the way milner is quite ordinary.

If Milner is quite ordinary, then Larsson is a sunday league player. Milner is a different class to Larsson.
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Matter of opinion
i disagree ;)
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BruceysFatWallet
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Aug 12 2008, 12:13 PM
average player-end of

Yes absolutely right... An average player who Opta stats rated as one of the best midfielders in the Prem last year, the best free kick taker in the Prem last year, scorer of critical goals.

I could go on but :banghead: would be more fun.
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and the ego that is Bentley fetched £15 million :P
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Alex McLeish today insisted that he is certain that Seb Larsson will still be a Blues player come the end of the transfer window.

Last season's Player of the Year has been continually linked in the media with a move back to the Premier League.

But the Blues boss said he expected the Swedish international to remain at Blues and to continue giving his all for the club.

"I would think that it's a certainty that he'll be staying, at least for this season," said McLeish.

"I didn't think he was at his best at the weekend but I've seen a different Larsson today in training and I know that he's too proud a guy and too good a professional to let anything affect him mentally


Sounds good
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Sameth
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Let's hope McLeish is right.
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paulus382004
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Aug 12 2008, 01:36 PM
paulus382004
Aug 12 2008, 12:13 PM
average player-end of

Yes absolutely right... An average player who Opta stats rated as one of the best midfielders in the Prem last year, the best free kick taker in the Prem last year, scorer of critical goals.

I could go on but :banghead: would be more fun.

There's statistics etc.........dont mean nowt
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paulus382004
Aug 12 2008, 09:12 PM
BruceysFatWallet
Aug 12 2008, 01:36 PM
paulus382004
Aug 12 2008, 12:13 PM
average player-end of

Yes absolutely right... An average player who Opta stats rated as one of the best midfielders in the Prem last year, the best free kick taker in the Prem last year, scorer of critical goals.

I could go on but :banghead: would be more fun.

There's statistics etc.........dont mean nowt

Stats do have a meaning. For example:
Ronaldo was top goal scorer.
Fabregas had both the most assists and the most passes.
Fabregas had the most passes.
Bentley put in the most crosses.
Reo-Coker, followed by Mascherano, had the most tackles.
Ronaldo and Santa Cruz were both involved in 47% of their respective team's goals.

Is it a mere coincidence that these players have the above statistics?
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He was to be the model professional for us and be the future of our team. Let down.

I guess he's half the man we thought he was. He's a slimey little bag of shyte.

Even still, he's valueable to our team so he can forget leaving. He will get over it once he realises we're standing firm.

Well done to the board and their stance on this, thus far.

Don't be suckered in by saying he has a bad attitude and should leave, that is exactly why he did it, to make you say that. It doesn't make him any less of a ****.

We'll keep him, and if he wants to go to Newcastle on a free in 2 years and become a name everybody forgets it is up to him.
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PA_nomore!
Aug 12 2008, 09:01 PM
He was to be the model professional for us and be the future of our team. Let down.

I guess he's half the man we thought he was. He's a slimey little bag of shyte.

Even still, he's valueable to our team so he can forget leaving. He will get over it once he realises we're standing firm.

Well done to the board and their stance on this, thus far.

Don't be suckered in by saying he has a bad attitude and should leave, that is exactly why he did it, to make you say that. It doesn't make him any less of a ****.

We'll keep him, and if he wants to go to Newcastle on a free in 2 years and become a name everybody forgets it is up to him.

Why should we treat him any different to Muamba or Kapo? I don't blame him for wanting more money - who wouldn't. He actually deserves it compared to some of the others.

The real problem is our short-sighted board. We needed (and still need) a new center half and creative midfield player as we did (last year C/H; last year and the year before a creative midfield player). For the sake of 5 million (the price of a center half) we gave up our premiership status - after Sully et al cleared about 15 million from selling their shares to CY.

How quick we are to forget why the fans responded as they did at the Blackburn game.

The problem is not Larsson its the board - pay the guy his money he'll be happy and it will be much cheaper than buying a replacement
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Aug 12 2008, 09:10 PM
PA_nomore!
Aug 12 2008, 09:01 PM
He was to be the model professional for us and be the future of our team. Let down.

I guess he's half the man we thought he was. He's a slimey little bag of shyte.

Even still, he's valueable to our team so he can forget leaving. He will get over it once he realises we're standing firm.

Well done to the board and their stance on this, thus far.

Don't be suckered in by saying he has a bad attitude and should leave, that is exactly why he did it, to make you say that. It doesn't make him any less of a ****.

We'll keep him, and if he wants to go to Newcastle on a free in 2 years and become a name everybody forgets it is up to him.

Why should we treat him any different to Muamba or Kapo? I don't blame him for wanting more money - who wouldn't. He actually deserves it compared to some of the others.

The real problem is our short-sighted board. We needed (and still need) a new center half and creative midfield player as we did (last year C/H; last year and the year before a creative midfield player). For the sake of 5 million (the price of a center half) we gave up our premiership status - after Sully et al cleared about 15 million from selling their shares to CY.

How quick we are to forget why the fans responded as they did at the Blackburn game.

The problem is not Larsson its the board - pay the guy his money he'll be happy and it will be much cheaper than buying a replacement

Of course Seb's wage should reflect his performances. When we reach the PL they will increase his wages again.

Heaven forbid we ask him to help us. How dare we!

In all fairness, it's a mutual thing and Seb gets paid for his services. If you want to break it down to business level.

HOWEVER, the way he has conducted himself clearly shows a supreme lack of intelligence. Why? Because Newcastle (Duff, N'Zogbia, Milner, Gutierrez) and Blackburn (Pedersen, Dunn) already have better wingers than him.

All he needs to do is look at previous players like Pennant he went to a big club, got the rewards and ended on the bench.

The exciteable Keegan who never works in depth with players (because he forgets about them and signs the next biggest thing) and a rookie manager - Ince. Great for handling careers, eh Seb?

He's had one decent Championship campaign and one good season in the PL. He's getting too arrogant.

There will be a time when his career reaches a bad point. If he goes to these clubs now, it's VERY likely to happen within the next 1-2 seasons (we've seen more talented players from our own team leave and fail). When you're a club hopping slime bag, especially at a big club who already don't focus on players' careers/rejuvenating them (because they're looking for instant success, also note a very high staff turn over)... he will find himself in the shyte very quickly, regretting what he did.

He has the potential to be a good player. He has no pace, he's got no muscle. If he signs for Newcastle he won't last a year. Their players are elite athletes, as well as technically gifted. He only meets the technically gifted criteria.

Again, very very unintelligent. Well done for making yourself look like an utter tool Seb. I don't care. Get your head down and play, and STFU.
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