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David Gold On Talk Sport; we did not spend enough in january
Topic Started: Aug 13 2008, 03:46 PM (626 Views)
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Jose Dominguez
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on talk sport today, david gold was on a business phone in.
one question , do you think you should speculate to accumalate,
as you did not in the january transfer window to help keep blues,
in the premiership.
the answer was yes you should,
we did not spend enough to to keep us up, for the football money.
which as you know is around 50 million in all.
also replied we did not know who would be in charge.
first time ive heard a board member honestly admit in public.
i find it hard to believe that you would gamble losing such an amount,
of money ,and keep your hands in your pockets.
the chinese bluff killed us off.
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blueblood
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tomatoes Stating the bloomin obvious, what is his excuse for the first time we were relegated after a poor January transfer window?

Think its a little too easy to blame Carson Yeung :copno:
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Bob Latchford
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do you think you should speculate to accumalate, as you did not in the january transfer window to help keep blues, in the premiership.


Was that the question asked?
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Blue in CT
Geoff Horsfield
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Anyone with half a brain could have (and did tell them) they needed to spend in the January transfer window. As they needed to do the previous time we were relagated (unlike Portsmouth).

I have no faith in this board.
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How much did we spend in January in comparison to other teams?
And how much would we have spent if a certain player hadn't have choosen Bolton at the last minute?
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I used to like david gold, always thought he was a top bloke, the complete oposite to david sullivan..

But the more and more i listen to him, i recently realised he really aint no different, just in it for the money, spin the spin ect..Talks nonsense like the rest of the board..

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V_For_Vendetta
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What was his excuse for the reason we went down in 2006? He can only make excuses for the same thing so many times before it starts wearing a bit thin.
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PA_nomore!
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The guy who started the thread wasn't coherent.

If Gold has admitted he didn't spend enough of what we already had, then he shouldn't be in football - simple as.

If he said he didn't spend because he didn't know if he was going to be here - fair enough, in his situation I would of been the same.
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scampy
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How much did we spend in January in comparison to other teams?


Thats the thing though. It's not a case of what we spend in comparison to others. It's what we spend to ensure we stay in the league!

By December everyone could see we needed one striker, one creative central midfielder, one left back and two centre halfs. We ended up with two of the five. Ok for McFadden and Murphy we forked out 7-8million, Cahil would have made it £10m plus. However there should have been more urgency to fill all those positions to keep us on the 50m gravy train for another year. Speculate 12-18m to gain £50m each year, simple you'd think. Wigan, Portsmouth, Fulham, West Ham, Middlesboro, Sunderland, Newcastle have all struggled at points over the last two or three seasons but have spent on transfers to remain where they are.
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DEdblue
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scampy
Aug 13 2008, 05:51 PM
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How much did we spend in January in comparison to other teams?


Thats the thing though. It's not a case of what we spend in comparison to others. It's what we spend to ensure we stay in the league!

By December everyone could see we needed one striker, one creative central midfielder, one left back and two centre halfs. We ended up with two of the five. Ok for McFadden and Murphy we forked out 7-8million, Cahil would have made it £10m plus. However there should have been more urgency to fill all those positions to keep us on the 50m gravy train for another year. Speculate 12-18m to gain £50m each year, simple you'd think. Wigan, Portsmouth, Fulham, West Ham, Middlesboro, Sunderland, Newcastle have all struggled at points over the last two or three seasons but have spent on transfers to remain where they are.

We needed a new keeper more than anything else............... < <
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Blue in CT
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DEdblue
Aug 13 2008, 09:35 PM
scampy
Aug 13 2008, 05:51 PM
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How much did we spend in January in comparison to other teams?


Thats the thing though. It's not a case of what we spend in comparison to others. It's what we spend to ensure we stay in the league!

By December everyone could see we needed one striker, one creative central midfielder, one left back and two centre halfs. We ended up with two of the five. Ok for McFadden and Murphy we forked out 7-8million, Cahil would have made it £10m plus. However there should have been more urgency to fill all those positions to keep us on the 50m gravy train for another year. Speculate 12-18m to gain £50m each year, simple you'd think. Wigan, Portsmouth, Fulham, West Ham, Middlesboro, Sunderland, Newcastle have all struggled at points over the last two or three seasons but have spent on transfers to remain where they are.

We needed a new keeper more than anything else............... < <

We did not go down because of Maik Taylor - Agent Ridgewell was much more to blame - a center half was our biggest need
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bluess7
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DEdblue
Aug 13 2008, 09:35 PM
scampy
Aug 13 2008, 05:51 PM
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How much did we spend in January in comparison to other teams?


Thats the thing though. It's not a case of what we spend in comparison to others. It's what we spend to ensure we stay in the league!

By December everyone could see we needed one striker, one creative central midfielder, one left back and two centre halfs. We ended up with two of the five. Ok for McFadden and Murphy we forked out 7-8million, Cahil would have made it £10m plus. However there should have been more urgency to fill all those positions to keep us on the 50m gravy train for another year. Speculate 12-18m to gain £50m each year, simple you'd think. Wigan, Portsmouth, Fulham, West Ham, Middlesboro, Sunderland, Newcastle have all struggled at points over the last two or three seasons but have spent on transfers to remain where they are.

We needed a new keeper more than anything else............... < <

Really got a thing about Taylor.....................
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we didnt spend anything last season

season ticket sales covered the pre season sales

january transfer window was funded by bruce compensation and below is the buys and sells during january

source :http://www.premiershiplatest.com/transfer-centre/jan-2008/confirmed/arsenal-aston-villa-birmingham-city

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Birmingham City Transfers:
Players In

David Murphy (Hibernian - £1,500,000)
James McFadden (Everton - £5million)
Mauro Zarate (Al-Sadd - on loan)
Players Out

Neil Kilkenny (Leeds - £150,000)
Rowan Vine (QPR - £1,000,000)
Adam Legzdins (Halifax - loan extension)
Sam Oji (Leyton Orient - released)
Wilson Palacios (Olimpia - end of loan (Signed by Wigan Athletic 11/1/08))
Olivier Tebily (released)
Neil Danns (Crystal Palace - £600,000)
Mathew Sadler (Watford - £750,000)
David Howland (Port Vale - on loan)
Krystian Pearce (Port Vale - on loan)
Artur Krysak (Gretna - on loan)


we made 2.5 million from selling players, we made around 2.5 million from bruce including deduction concenring compensation for mcleish

so in essence we spent prob around 2 million on player sales all last season

this season we have spent 1 million and sold 8 million worth of players

so concerning this club's transfer policy, we will not do a leeds nor luton but infact we aim to make money from promotion or relegation and we will not sacrifice profit even if this means securing premiership status

how can we as fans commit to this club when all our owners are concerned about is making money from football rather than moving this club forward

lets not forget the 15 million pounds worth of shares last season - that did not go into the club nor did carson young spend any money on improving the club

football is a slowly dying game that is a hobbie for the stupidly rich who want to spend to accumulate
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B25 YEW TREE LOYAL
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as a board they are duty bound to act in the best interests of the business not their own,so who would eventually be in charge should have no bearing on the spending of club money....thats a poor excuse......and actually shows them to be bad businessmen.Combined they sold shares to the value of approx £15 million,that wasnt club money and they were s focused on the potential £35 million coming to line THEIR pockets they forgot to worry about the £50 million the club could receive by remaining in the Premier League.
The above needs much more than an apolagy :angry:
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Hooby Groovy
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I could accept what David Gold says much easier if he hadn't said exactly the same at the previous relegation and then said he would 'learn from his mistakes'.

Once is acceptable, twice is incompetent.

In some ways I think we will find a much more level playing field in the future. The downturn in the economy means there will be less disposable income to spend on football, Sky are already seeing huge rafts of cancellations as families worry about fuel and utilities.

Sky will spend less, this will mean they will be less willing to plough big money in to the game, foreign investors will lose interest and revenues will drop.

Clubs that are financed through debt will have a more tough time and ours will probably be the model that is followed, ie 'living within our means'

I really don't think there is much point asking major shareholders for huge investments, I feel those days are starting to go behind us.
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B25 YEW TREE LOYAL
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what drives the rich individuals to invest their money will never go away hooby.......ego,prestige,respect,acceptability and any other character flaw that needs massaging...
The problem we have is that our owners have achieved all that they set out to achieve personally albeit they havent quite hit the targets they set for the club.I agree football is changing slowly and will see the boom/bust principle some time soon.
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Hooby Groovy
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what drives the rich individuals to invest their money will never go away hooby.......ego,prestige,respect,acceptability and any other character flaw that needs massaging...
The problem we have is that our owners have achieved all that they set out to achieve personally albeit they havent quite hit the targets they set for the club.I agree football is changing slowly and will see the boom/bust principle some time soon.


I agree with you B25, but what I really meant was that I think we'll see a dilution of foreign investors as clubs in other countries become more attractive.

Hopefully they will all go to spain and then flog la liga to the far-east and leave us alone.

In terms of the massaging of ego's, you're right that won't go and we'll still get the Gold's, Jordan's etc who feel the need to be rent-a-quote on radio 5, saying one thing and delivering another.
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B25 YEW TREE LOYAL
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i agree hooby and so hope you are right and it happens soon.lampard on £151k per week is frightening :angry:
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