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Birmingham Consider Boateng Move; loan (Merged)
Topic Started: Sep 5 2008, 07:33 AM (5,539 Views)
81ues
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will he sign today in time for tomorrows match...??? is it 2:00 the deadline for next day games??? 81ues
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NO1BLUENOSE
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Sep 15 2008, 09:31 AM
will he sign today in time for tomorrows match...??? is it 2:00 the deadline for next day games??? 81ues

It used to be 5pm on a Friday for a saturday game, so i'd assume it would be 5pm this evening.
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mad4theblues
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Abit more gossip on his, this time appearing on Skysportsnews

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_4154397,00.html

Hope the lad wants a loan spell here!!! The club seem keen to get him!
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PartisanBCFC
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Jack Wiseman
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mad4theblues
Sep 16 2008, 12:06 PM
Abit more gossip on his, this time appearing on Skysportsnews

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_4154397,00.html

Hope the lad wants a loan spell here!!! The club seem keen to get him!

Yes...I've just read that on Sky

His Highness The Prince Boateng is in Germany right now

Hope he hasn't purposely flown over there to avoid Alex :LMAO:
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Blacksmith
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I keep asking myself why Spurs, bottom of the Premiership, wouldn't even give him a squad number.

Is he any good? Do we need him? Are there better players we should be looking at?

So many questions. So few answers.
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djmmusic
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I take my hat off to Mcleish - saying he doesn't want "reluctant conscripts".
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paulus382004
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Sep 16 2008, 09:37 PM
I keep asking myself why Spurs, bottom of the Premiership, wouldn't even give him a squad number.

Is he any good? Do we need him? Are there better players we should be looking at?

So many questions. So few answers.

so much positivity from your post? Why didn't anyone else come in for berbatov? why didn't any one else come in for keane? why didn't anyone else come in for milner? and so it goes on and on.......I love blues fans like you :banghead:
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Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.
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paulus382004
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Sep 17 2008, 05:30 AM
Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.

You get real, wasn't a certain cantona a flop at leeds. Didn't beardsley fail at man utd? amd so it goes on......
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turunc
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paulus382004
Sep 17 2008, 07:48 AM
Blacksmith
Sep 17 2008, 05:30 AM
Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.

You get real, wasn't a certain cantona a flop at leeds. Didn't beardsley fail at man utd? amd so it goes on......

I would suggest that Cantona was far from a flop at Leeds, which is why Man Utd had such a battle to sign him??

As for Beardsley, I am assuming you mean Peter, yep that England flop worshipped by the Geordies. Can't ever remember him playing for the Mancs unless he was a teenager or something??

Might have been better to use some other alternatives to support your point! :blink:
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elnikolai
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i doubt spurs would be bottom for very long mate.
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adblues4life
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whats going on with this being talk about him for a while but nothing happening
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paulus382004
Sep 17 2008, 07:48 AM
You get real, wasn't a certain cantona a flop at leeds. Didn't beardsley fail at man utd? amd so it goes on......

:LMAO: Possibly one of the worst examples used in an argument ever.

Cantona won the League with Leeds!

Beardsley was at Man Yoo, but never made an appearance in the league.

But I get your point, people can be flops before they become good at other clubs.
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paulus382004
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turunc
Sep 17 2008, 08:22 AM
paulus382004
Sep 17 2008, 07:48 AM
Blacksmith
Sep 17 2008, 05:30 AM
Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.

You get real, wasn't a certain cantona a flop at leeds. Didn't beardsley fail at man utd? amd so it goes on......

I would suggest that Cantona was far from a flop at Leeds, which is why Man Utd had such a battle to sign him??

As for Beardsley, I am assuming you mean Peter, yep that England flop worshipped by the Geordies. Can't ever remember him playing for the Mancs unless he was a teenager or something??

Might have been better to use some other alternatives to support your point! :blink:

If you don't get the crux of the point, then i'll have to explain as slowly as possible. There wasn't anyone queueing up to sign Steve Finnan when we let him go but he played in champions league games for the biggest club in europe. Most of us agreed that getting 1/2 million for AJ at the time was good business but he went on to play for england and yet no-one else came in for him. Boetang could become the same and to be fair you could say this about any signing we make. To take it further, villa paid a fortune for savo, who was terrible but he went abroad and was top scorer in I think the spanish league. Some signings work, others don't but dont start moaning before you've even see him play!!
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Geoff Horsfield
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owing to the amount of time taken to either conclude or abandon this deal every single check possible will have been made *fingerscrossed*

As long as this bloke is able to do the things we are missing,and allowing other players to then do what they do best then he will do for me **thumbup

I just remember Salif Diao :whistle:
and the many many that came and went under Bruce :banghead:
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bluess7
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Sep 17 2008, 01:03 PM
owing to the amount of time taken to either conclude or abandon this deal every single check possible will have been made *fingerscrossed*

As long as this bloke is able to do the things we are missing,and allowing other players to then do what they do best then he will do for me **thumbup

I just remember Salif Diao :whistle:
and the many many that came and went under Bruce :banghead:

Remember Seb Larsson as well :whistle:
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B25 YEW TREE LOYAL
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i do remember Seb......but Bruce admits he took a shine to him after he played at left back against us.
I meant the problem centre mid playmaker position.
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PA_nomore!
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Sep 17 2008, 05:30 AM
Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.

How do you doubt he will contribute having not seen him play?

I saw Boateng play U19 football and thought he was going to make it as a top player. He stuck out like a sore thumb. Quality player.

I said the same of Arsenal's Denilson, Huddlestone, Kompany and Milevskiy who've all gone on to be promising players. Not sure if they all played in the same tournament, but I saw them all around the same time.
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turunc
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paulus382004
Sep 17 2008, 12:48 PM
turunc
Sep 17 2008, 08:22 AM
paulus382004
Sep 17 2008, 07:48 AM
Blacksmith
Sep 17 2008, 05:30 AM
Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.

You get real, wasn't a certain cantona a flop at leeds. Didn't beardsley fail at man utd? amd so it goes on......

I would suggest that Cantona was far from a flop at Leeds, which is why Man Utd had such a battle to sign him??

As for Beardsley, I am assuming you mean Peter, yep that England flop worshipped by the Geordies. Can't ever remember him playing for the Mancs unless he was a teenager or something??

Might have been better to use some other alternatives to support your point! :blink:

If you don't get the crux of the point, then i'll have to explain as slowly as possible. There wasn't anyone queueing up to sign Steve Finnan when we let him go but he played in champions league games for the biggest club in europe. Most of us agreed that getting 1/2 million for AJ at the time was good business but he went on to play for england and yet no-one else came in for him. Boetang could become the same and to be fair you could say this about any signing we make. To take it further, villa paid a fortune for savo, who was terrible but he went abroad and was top scorer in I think the spanish league. Some signings work, others don't but dont start moaning before you've even see him play!!

I will explain equally slowly, I don't give one about your point cause frankly it is hardly a revelation, yes some players go on to other clubs and do well and some don't...well knowing that has enriched my life I can tell you, in fact my whole understanding of football has now changed, if only you could have passed on your wisdom and insight to me forty years ago!!!

However my post was not questioning your rather obvious point it was saying that the two players you chose, saying Cantona was a failure at Leeds (Rubbish) and Beardsley was a failure at Man Utd (When, as a fourteen year old??) did not support your yes rather obvious point.

Also can't see how you can read into my post that I was moaning about Boateng, personally never seen him play, but as AMc has hardly raced to sign him there maybe something all of us don't know i.e. dodgy temperament etc.

Hope that has clarified everything...oh wise one < <
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Sep 17 2008, 08:58 PM
Blacksmith
Sep 17 2008, 05:30 AM
Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.

How do you doubt he will contribute having not seen him play?

I saw Boateng play U19 football and thought he was going to make it as a top player. He stuck out like a sore thumb. Quality player.

I said the same of Arsenal's Denilson, Huddlestone, Kompany and Milevskiy who've all gone on to be promising players. Not sure if they all played in the same tournament, but I saw them all around the same time.

I think most people knew about those players (Denilson being captain of the U19s for Brazil, Huddlestone being linked to loads of different clubs, Kompany and his constant links to Arsenal.. dunno the other guy though?), same with Boateng. Admittedly, I only knew him from seeing his name and stats on a Fifa game :LOL: but his big move to Spurs kind of put the spotlight on him for a while.

Although, my mate who I imagine has seen him play more than you (Spurs season ticket holder) reckons he's not actually all he's cracked up to be. Or at least, he's not when he's playing against Premier League opposition.

Said he got played as a winger/attacking player for Spurs when attacking isn't exactly his best quality.
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paulus382004
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turunc
Sep 18 2008, 09:25 AM
paulus382004
Sep 17 2008, 12:48 PM
turunc
Sep 17 2008, 08:22 AM
paulus382004
Sep 17 2008, 07:48 AM
Blacksmith
Sep 17 2008, 05:30 AM
Get real, the players you mention were players a lot of teams would want!

Boeteng has been an immense flop at Spurs, hence their reason for them not even considering him good enough for a squad number.

Some quotes about Boeteng:

Boateng signed for Tottenham Hotspur on 31 July, 2007, for a reported fee of £4.5million. He had his first start in the Premier League on November 3, 2007 against Middlesbrough F.C.. A series of first team performances ranging from bland to dismal left him consigned to the reserves squad, where he currently languishes, bereft of a senior squad number.

On 09 September 2007 Berliner Morgenpost reported that German National U21 Coach Dieter Eilts does not select Boateng anymore because of negative incidents that happened in the team's Camp during the June 2007 Toulon tournament in France.


I'm not being negative, I just feel that if we go for players I want them to be ones who will improve the team, and I'm not convinced that Boeteng would do that.

You get real, wasn't a certain cantona a flop at leeds. Didn't beardsley fail at man utd? amd so it goes on......

I would suggest that Cantona was far from a flop at Leeds, which is why Man Utd had such a battle to sign him??

As for Beardsley, I am assuming you mean Peter, yep that England flop worshipped by the Geordies. Can't ever remember him playing for the Mancs unless he was a teenager or something??

Might have been better to use some other alternatives to support your point! :blink:

If you don't get the crux of the point, then i'll have to explain as slowly as possible. There wasn't anyone queueing up to sign Steve Finnan when we let him go but he played in champions league games for the biggest club in europe. Most of us agreed that getting 1/2 million for AJ at the time was good business but he went on to play for england and yet no-one else came in for him. Boetang could become the same and to be fair you could say this about any signing we make. To take it further, villa paid a fortune for savo, who was terrible but he went abroad and was top scorer in I think the spanish league. Some signings work, others don't but dont start moaning before you've even see him play!!

I will explain equally slowly, I don't give one about your point cause frankly it is hardly a revelation, yes some players go on to other clubs and do well and some don't...well knowing that has enriched my life I can tell you, in fact my whole understanding of football has now changed, if only you could have passed on your wisdom and insight to me forty years ago!!!

However my post was not questioning your rather obvious point it was saying that the two players you chose, saying Cantona was a failure at Leeds (Rubbish) and Beardsley was a failure at Man Utd (When, as a fourteen year old??) did not support your yes rather obvious point.

Also can't see how you can read into my post that I was moaning about Boateng, personally never seen him play, but as AMc has hardly raced to sign him there maybe something all of us don't know i.e. dodgy temperament etc.

Hope that has clarified everything...oh wise one < <

I give up
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Sep 16 2008, 09:32 PM
mad4theblues
Sep 16 2008, 12:06 PM
Abit more gossip on his, this time appearing on Skysportsnews

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_4154397,00.html

Hope the lad wants a loan spell here!!! The club seem keen to get him!

Yes...I've just read that on Sky

His Highness The Prince Boateng is in Germany right now

Hope he hasn't purposely flown over there to avoid Alex :LMAO:


According to tonight's Mail one of the reasons for the delay is that two Bundesleague teams are interested in signing him at Christmas. FIFFA rules will not allow a player to play for more that three teams in a single season and Boateng doesn't want to spoil his chances of going back to Germany!!

If he takes this attitude when he meets Big Eck I think he will be told "to go forth and multiply!!"
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garconsavage
Sep 18 2008, 12:38 PM
PartisanBCFC
Sep 16 2008, 09:32 PM
mad4theblues
Sep 16 2008, 12:06 PM
Abit more gossip on his, this time appearing on Skysportsnews

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11694_4154397,00.html

Hope the lad wants a loan spell here!!! The club seem keen to get him!

Yes...I've just read that on Sky

His Highness The Prince Boateng is in Germany right now

Hope he hasn't purposely flown over there to avoid Alex :LMAO:


According to tonight's Mail one of the reasons for the delay is that two Bundesleague teams are interested in signing him at Christmas. FIFFA rules will not allow a player to play for more that three teams in a single season and Boateng doesn't want to spoil his chances of going back to Germany!!

If he takes this attitude when he meets Big Eck I think he will be told "to go forth and multiply!!"

By all accounts he has never played for Spurs from what I've been told if you know what I mean :)

Just got a bad feeling about this one must be better options, oh yes Watson, cause that would have involved a fee!!!! :(
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Sep 17 2008, 02:20 PM
i do remember Seb......but Bruce admits he took a shine to him after he played at left back against us.
I meant the problem centre mid playmaker position.

That's basically anyone whos filled the m/f berth since Mark Ward :LMAO:

Half the posters on this forum just went: "Mark who?" :LMAO:
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whats happening with this transfer?? its dragged for ages is he actually going to sign?
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