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| cadburysnack | Jan 10 2010, 10:38 AM Post #26 |
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He could be quitting Lazio! Let bring him in! Get the talks in early so we can snare him quick at the end of the season! Zarate Will Quit Lazio |
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| tony123 | Jan 10 2010, 06:59 PM Post #27 |
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i think the issue McLeish may have had with Zarate was hat he was trying to build a unit and Zarate just didnt fit in. He didnt have the players to play with. Now we have the likes of Ferguson, Bowyer and hopefully Michel we will have players who can get the ball to him and he can do damage. He was sort of like having a Glen Hoddle.. Brilliant going forwards but not so great when defending which given our team we were much of the time. Our defence was much weaker so it required all players to shut down the opposition. Zarate couldnt do this. Hence McLeish use him as sub. The way he saw it there was no point playing talented players who coulnt get time on the ball if the chances were you were going to concede goals. We are now beginning to get players who can play a bit. |
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| MikaelForssell | Jan 11 2010, 12:13 AM Post #28 |
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Zarate was simply a luxury we couldnt really afford in our fight against relegation 2 years ago. Thats why McLeish didnt play him as often as we all, McLeish included probably, wanted too... he wouldnt track back or battle away, so couldnt be accommodated into the side. He would be far more suited to our team now as we have the solid base, and the discipline from the midfield boys aswell. It wont happen though, Zarate's above us now im afraid. |
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| BrummieBear | Jan 11 2010, 12:28 AM Post #29 |
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I dont agree.... I understand McLeish may feel players like him need time to fit in and adapt and hence Benitez not starting untill after a fair few games (injury recovery also played a part) and while thats ok at the start of the season. When you sign someone in January the season soon flies by and with no pre-season, each week taken not starting a player because he is new to England is just another week wasted of his loan deal. I think Zarate could have kept us up, i dont consider him a luxury player. McFadden is more of a luxury as he is not suited or at best played wide, he is not a out and out Striker he would be best played in a free role like in a 4,5,1 or a 4,4,2 Diamond or as part of a wide attack in a 4,3,3. Maybe we felt we could stay up and by not giving Zarate much exposure we could forced his asking price down if we stayed up who knows.... I doubt we would have paid £15M+ for him under Sully. As for now, well Zarate may move in the summer if things dont get better but i cant see many sides paying over £25M for him especially Arsenal. Would love to see him here again but cant see it happening well not for at least 2 years and then only unless 1) We become a big club challenging for Top 4-6 and willing to spend more than a Villa and Spurs on players. 2) Zarate does not make much of a impact and his value drops to less than £15M About his tracking back i agree he never did as much, but then McFadden never much back then, although he does now but can be a case of works really hard for parts then does nothing in parts. But Babel is also a simular player who does not track back, Kapo and Quincy never and when asked to do so, takes away their game.... Now with improved defence and quality/pace through out and Michel we could afford to use players who may not track back. |
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| chemboblue | Jan 14 2010, 09:36 AM Post #30 |
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Could be on his way back to the Prem... http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11095_5858812,00.html I would love him back here, but with a valuation of £30/£35 mil being thrown around, its highly unlikely he'll be back here. :crying: |
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| MikaelForssell | Jan 14 2010, 11:29 AM Post #31 |
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The inclusion of Chelsea and Man City means we have no chance anyway (I've been saying this for months anyway). Move on people |
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| pooley | Jan 14 2010, 11:54 AM Post #32 |
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It would be good to see him back in the prem though |
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| TJDIXI | Jan 14 2010, 12:58 PM Post #33 |
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IMO Chelsea - Possible But if the manager is to be believed they aren't signing this window Man Utd - Unlikely, money being the issue Arsenal - Possible but it's an amount that Wenger doesn't spend and his too similar to what they've got Man City - Very possible, they could afford to sit him on the bench or swap with Robinho Tottenham - Possible, they seem to be able to make signings whatever Aston Villa - Unlikely, doesn't fit MON's model for his team Liverpool - No chance unless they refinance Birmingham - Too expensive Fulham - Unlikely Stoke - No chance Sunderland - Not CL or even Europa as it stands Everton - Money - No Blackburn - No chance Burnley - No chance Wolves - No chance Wigan - No chance West Ham - no chance Bolton - No chance Hull - No chance Portsmouth - No chance The only teams I can see buying him are Chelsea, Man Utd, Arsenal , Man City , Tottenham , Aston Villa. If he goes on loan then I think that opens up a few more teams including us, but if they are reluctant sellers then they will firm no loaners of the player. I don't see him moving in this window. |
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| saffybluenose | Jan 14 2010, 03:02 PM Post #34 |
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totally agree with you mate.. however.. it would be better to see him back at blues! lol! |
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| BrummieBear | Jan 14 2010, 03:47 PM Post #35 |
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could happen....... If he joins one of those sides and fails to make a great impact who knows... Look at Santa Cruz or Babel If we had another loan and could loan another player from Man City it would not be impossible to get Santa Cruz on loan, if we ahd another loan maybe Babel on Loan.... however doubtfull with Liverpool lack of attackers and now injuries. What i am saying is if a Top 4-5 club sign Zarate and from now till next January he does not make a impact or get games then who can rule out a loan to give him games. As far as us seeing him in a Blues shirt on a permament deal well that depends on his impact, or lack of. |
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| burnsey | Jan 14 2010, 04:49 PM Post #36 |
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the one and only barry mcintosh is he agent. hes never going to play for us again, sadly. |
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| samtendorji | Jan 18 2010, 12:26 PM Post #37 |
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Steve Claridge
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any chance we get to sign him back...just checked out his goals...man he is world class!!!! |
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| rob | Jan 18 2010, 12:29 PM Post #38 |
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No chance. He'd cost around £20m & we aint (quite rightly) going to spend that much money on a player |
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| Blues | Jan 18 2010, 12:30 PM Post #39 |
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I don't know but it doesn't matter how hard you try, you will always be remembered for this joke. |
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| the double m | Jan 18 2010, 12:36 PM Post #40 |
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That was a joke? |
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| samtendorji | Jan 18 2010, 12:38 PM Post #41 |
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Steve Claridge
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deja vu all over again...sigh |
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| jassyblue80 | Jan 18 2010, 12:50 PM Post #42 |
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not many people can claim to have a joke live in the memory for 4 years :angel: |
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| ffblue | Jan 18 2010, 04:21 PM Post #43 |
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it was not a bad joke .. not as funny as Zarate coming back though |
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| Caveman49 | Jan 18 2010, 04:23 PM Post #44 |
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Please ........ no more Zarate threads ......... Please......... Let him go...... |
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| BrummieBear | Jan 18 2010, 05:36 PM Post #45 |
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Zarate's club would want £25M+ for him. some rumours are that Arsenal are linked with a £17M move but i feel Lazio would want more and with Liverpool and Man City also potentially interested i am afraid while £17M may be a fee we can afford Zarate would rather move to a bigger club if given the chance. If Zarate is to cost over £20M i feel we could maybe find as good for less if we shop about, certainly Zarate would not give us much compared to the first rumoured £35M Lazio was looking for. Thats does not mean he wont play here a again.... Maybe this scenero could happen... Zarate signes for s Liverpool, Arsenal, or Man City for £20-25M he fails to make a impact or get as many games as he would like, kinda like a Babel or Santa Cruz is now. Then their is potential for us to loan the player, be that because he has failed to make a impact at big club, or they see him for future and want to give him more games for another club like Man City have in loaning us Hart. Then yes we could maybe see Zarate here again, and if he was loaned to us by big Prem Club because he flopped, hey maybe that Club would be willing to sell him on for cheaper and if £15-20M i feel in 2 seasons we could spend that. As far as signing Zarate within the next 18 months and for £20M or more, i recon we got next to no chance. :crying: |
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| MikaelForssell | Jan 18 2010, 06:51 PM Post #46 |
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No More Zarate Threads. No More Zarate Talk. Just read.... SkySports.Com - Zarate Plans Lazio Stay
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| BrummieBear | Jan 18 2010, 07:15 PM Post #47 |
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That rules us out then.... Only now if a bigger club than Lazio come in would he ever consider, and even if Lazio wanted to sell a player can have a lot of say. |
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| the double m | Jan 18 2010, 10:03 PM Post #48 |
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What's White and can't climb trees? A fridge. |
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| Deleted User | Jan 18 2010, 10:17 PM Post #49 |
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Part exchange for Ashley Cole, that wouldn't have been small money. |
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