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Topic Started: Jan 23 2010, 11:04 PM (399 Views)
SuttonBluenose
Geoff Horsfield
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Including Ridgy

It's been a long time since we've seen david murphy play, frankly i didnt know he still played for us!

Ridgy's done a brilliant job, and i think the warm weather training especially helped the blues, as a team. He looks a completely different player, to what he does when playing cb.

Obviously Ridgy is our 1st choice, but why not give murphy a game soon?

what about vignal?, I've never seen him play!
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Blacksmith
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Jeff Hall
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Murphy has only just returned to full training following a long injury, so it would be folly to put him in the team too soon.
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trublupunk
Geoff Horsfield
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SuttonBluenose
Jan 23 2010, 11:04 PM
Including Ridgy

It's been a long time since we've seen david murphy play, frankly i didnt know he still played for us!

Ridgy's done a brilliant job, and i think the warm weather training especially helped the blues, as a team. He looks a completely different player, to what he does when playing cb.

Obviously Ridgy is our 1st choice, but why not give murphy a game soon?

what about vignal?, I've never seen him play!

Why not?

The current back four hasn't let us down for 15 games, thats why!

Murphy is back in full training now and I'm sure we'll see him on the bench in the coming weeks. I'm sure he'll get a few minutes here and there soon enough. There is no need to change the back four at the moment though.
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blue casual
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Frank Worthington
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You've not seen Vignal play?

Did you miss the start of the season?
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Mr_Blue_Sky
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Paul Tait
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Jan 23 2010, 11:11 PM
You've not seen Vignal play?

Did you miss the start of the season?

I was really excited when I saw him against United, some of the balls he put in the box were ace,and he gave us an option going up the left...

But since his injury hes only played about 15 mins against Liverpool and the full 90 against Forest, but he doesnt quite look fit for some reason since his injury...

Maybe a run in the team would help his confidence and fitness a hell of a lot, but like people said above there is asbolutely no reason to change the starting line-up unless we have to due to injuries
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pooley
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murphy has suffered two small injuries since the major injury/surgery he had.

I think both him and parnaby on the right have had it. Murphy im not too sure about quality wise but I think parnaby is massivley underated on the right. However as shown at forest, Parnaby and I fear murphy are both too inury prone now.

I think we need to ship both out as even though they are not on massive wages I wouldnt think they will play very little, even as squad players because the time we would look to use them (ie due to other injuries, cup games etc) they will probabky be injured.
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Car$on
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GET FRANCK IN THERE!
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MikaelForssell
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How do you not know that Murphy has been out injured since April when we played Watford?

And as for Vignal, he showed early promise in his first couple of games... then got injured, and that was that for him IMO.

You say Ridgewell looks a totally different player and is first choice (in a back four that hasnt been beaten for 15 games remember **thumbup) yet you want him left out for someone no where near match fit? Hmm
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SuttonBluenose
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Jan 24 2010, 01:02 AM
How do you not know that Murphy has been out injured since April when we played Watford?

And as for Vignal, he showed early promise in his first couple of games... then got injured, and that was that for him IMO.

You say Ridgewell looks a totally different player and is first choice (in a back four that hasnt been beaten for 15 games remember **thumbup) yet you want him left out for someone no where near match fit? Hmm


I never said to leave ridgy out, i just meant, give murphy one or two sub appearances, for 10-20 mins at the end of a game

And I didnt go to any games last season, but wolves and plymouth, and was away for several months from march to July, in Dubai, meaning lack of communication and blues news. I only got a fortnight break, where i went home, and to those games.

Murphy, the same reason, why i though mcshefferey didnt play for us anymore.

Murphy didnt play often last season anyway from what i recall, with quedrue, de la cruz etc playing instead

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SuttonBluenose
Jan 24 2010, 02:10 AM
MikaelForssell
Jan 24 2010, 01:02 AM
How do you not know that Murphy has been out injured since April when we played Watford?

And as for Vignal, he showed early promise in his first couple of games... then got injured, and that was that for him IMO.

You say Ridgewell looks a totally different player and is first choice (in a back four that hasnt been beaten for 15 games remember **thumbup) yet you want him left out for someone no where near match fit? Hmm


I never said to leave ridgy out, i just meant, give murphy one or two sub appearances, for 10-20 mins at the end of a game

And I didnt go to any games last season, but wolves and plymouth, and was away for several months from march to July, in Dubai, meaning lack of communication and blues news. I only got a fortnight break, where i went home, and to those games.

Murphy, the same reason, why i though mcshefferey didnt play for us anymore.

Murphy didnt play often last season anyway from what i recall, with quedrue, de la cruz etc playing instead

Its far too risky to change the back four/keeper when we're trying to see a game out, for no real reason.

If there was an injury, fair enough, but you tend to try and keep your back five unit throughout a game.

Dont see any logic behind simply taking Ridgewell off with 10-20 mins to go.
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Bluebird
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For me Ridge has been magnificent....
Tactically he has added so much strength to our back four....
Now when we get faced with a set piece we have three experienced centre backs ready to deal with the situation and that's why we rarely concede **thumbup
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Juzza79
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pooley
Jan 23 2010, 11:17 PM
murphy has suffered two small injuries since the major injury/surgery he had.

I think both him and parnaby on the right have had it. Murphy im not too sure about quality wise but I think parnaby is massivley underated on the right. However as shown at forest, Parnaby and I fear murphy are both too inury prone now.

I think we need to ship both out as even though they are not on massive wages I wouldnt think they will play very little, even as squad players because the time we would look to use them (ie due to other injuries, cup games etc) they will probabky be injured.

I agree with the sentiments...I think Parnaby will be shown the door at season's end. However I think we might hold onto Murphy and say au revoir to Franck Q and Vignal.

In the summer we will need 2-3 new defenders, a LB, a RB and another Centre Half (assuming that Taylor is sent packing). Ideally if we could get hold of someone who could play RB / CB it might save us a few quid. Then the squad back 4 would look something like this:

RB: Carr / New
CB: RJ, Dann, Ridgewell, New
LB: New / Murphy
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Car$on
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I think it is undoubted that Ridge still looks shakey as an out and out left back, but surely that is natural as he is playing totally out of position. In fairness he has got forward quite a lot more than I expected him to... he is developing into a decent left back. He has far more strength and power than your average wing back, such as Murphy, and doesn't often get skinned. I think he problem is he is prone to the odd glaring mistake, like he was a centre back. I think now though as he is on the wing there is often Roger and Scott clearing up in the area so it doesn't seem to shine through so much.

I think we will need to get some more RB cover at some stage. I worry that Carr will get crocked like he did at Newcastle and that could be that. I was going to say about his age being a worry, but he is only what, 32, 33? And he looks very fit and spritely still.
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the double m
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murphy can't mark properly and always loses his man.

i've never really rated him and why would you want to change the back 4???
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tony123
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Ridgewell has come in for a bit of criticm but Dann and Johnson have been playing fantastic. So Ridge is seen in someways as one of the weaker links. Also it's quite traditional to have a bit of a go at teams down the flanks. So when he is tested or beaten it is his resposnsibility and everyone know it.

Ridge is left footed and while not an out and out left back has done a pretty good job for us. Our back 4 has been one of our strengths team consistency has proved to work. Vignal and Murphy have both been injured bth just getting back now. While the team has been unbeaten and havent suffered from too much tiredness. McLeish has saw if fit to keep it going.

They had a similar out outfit which I watched at Aberdeen every week the team picked itself went on to win the Scottish league, cup and Cup winners cup.

I think Vignal and Murphy may have a part to play as substitutes but not while the team is in the form that is. Th next phase of our development it's going foward and scoring goals. Hopefully the McGeady and the likes will see we are going somewhere and we wont have to pay a kings ransom to get them.

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