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Wage Structure
Topic Started: Jan 24 2010, 08:15 PM (315 Views)
koppite
Garry Pendrey
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It has been reported that Alex Mc Leish will not break the wage structure at Blues. If that is the case, why bother trying to sign 7 8 9 million pound players, as they would want the going rate in relation to their worth. If it is true, then imo
we will not attract better players to the club, and it seems a waste of time and trouble even talking to their agents about a move to St Andrews. :boohoo:
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MikaelForssell
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He's not going to smash the structure... like when Jones wanted like £70k a week.

He will break it for a good enough player... but when Jones thinks he warrants £70k-£80k a week, then he'll soon tell them where to go.
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If Mcleish is offering a new lease of life to a striker to come to Blues then they will happy to accept what they get offered...

As few of the players weve been linked with are wantaways from their clubs, looking for regular football... Mcleish has got an incentive of first team football before the World cup for them, he wont throw money away to any Tom,Dick and Harry for no reason...

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koppite Posted on Jan 24 2010, 09:15 PM
It has been reported that Alex Mc Leish will not break the wage structure at Blues. If that is the case, why bother trying to sign 7 8 9 million pound players, as they would want the going rate in relation to their worth. If it is true, then imo
we will not attract better players to the club, and it seems a waste of time and trouble even talking to their agents about a move to St Andrews

It's all about judgement calls....

Where does a player want to be and what does he want to achieve?

How do you think the Portsmouth Players would answer your Post?
Apparently John Utaka is supposed to be on £70k per week:

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Utaka, reckoned to be on £70,000 a week, is one of the few survivors of the days when those salaries were common around Fratton Park

Source: http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/1...double-trouble/

Now would he prefer the position he is in where he has been paid late every month for the past three and wondering about this month, or would he prefer to be on a guaranteed £40k per week for a new contract?
Not that we want Utaka - it's just that there is more to negotaition than wage demands and expectations now!
All the Premiership Clubs have financial problems....
Manure couldn't afford Tevez....
Liverpool arranging free transfers....

The Blues are in the strongest position I have ever known them to be and that's in fifty plus years of support! :Blues:
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pooley
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Dont forget we're in a world cup year - if a player is 3rd, 4th etc in line for a 1st team spot, and that person is an international then they would accept a drop in wages to get playing again and have more chance of playing in the world cup.
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BrummieBear
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I think McLeish wont mind a few players earning more than our current lot even a lot more, but wont be held to ransom on wages.

I think he is looking at say if a player say BOB....

Well if BOB plays for a Top 6 club earning £40K a week, and linked with us McLeish will not be willing to pay BOB £60K or more a week.

Or if a player is linked with us say TREV and TREV would sign for a Villa for £40K a week but would want much more to come here because we are not classed as a big club yet. McLeish wont have none of that.

So i guess what i am saying is take Boyd if we and Villa are linked McLeish will not be wanting to pay a lot more wages than Boyd would except from Villa, or with Babel like the Jones deal he wont want to be paying £20K a week more than the player currently earns.

Which i think is good as if we signed Jones for £70K a week and he never really made a huge impact what happens if we target some decent/better players in the future who earn less than that, they would surely want more than a £70K Jones.

You have to be sensible or else next thing you know your wage bill will be through the roof and when we try and renew current players contracts say like McFadden then what would stop him asking for £60K or more especially if he had more of a effect this and next season than players we sign for more than that wages.

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koppite
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BrummieBear
Jan 24 2010, 10:03 PM
I think McLeish wont mind a few players earning more than our current lot even a lot more, but wont be held to ransom on wages.

I think he is looking at say if a player say BOB....

Well if BOB plays for a Top 6 club earning £40K a week, and linked with us McLeish will not be willing to pay BOB £60K or more a week.

Or if a player is linked with us say TREV and TREV would sign for a Villa for £40K a week but would want much more to come here because we are not classed as a big club yet. McLeish wont have none of that.

So i guess what i am saying is take Boyd if we and Villa are linked McLeish will not be wanting to pay a lot more wages than Boyd would except from Villa, or with Babel like the Jones deal he wont want to be paying £20K a week more than the player currently earns.

Which i think is good as if we signed Jones for £70K a week and he never really made a huge impact what happens if we target some decent/better players in the future who earn less than that, they would surely want more than a £70K Jones.

You have to be sensible or else next thing you know your wage bill will be through the roof and when we try and renew current players contracts say like McFadden then what would stop him asking for £60K or more especially if he had more of a effect this and next season than players we sign for more than that wages.

I take your point bb , but if bob or trev were earning 40 grand per week, I think if we offered them the same money surely this is more than any of our current players earn, or is it?. If the answer to that question is yes, then Big Eck is being (economical with the truth). ie if the wage limit is 35 grand, and you offered tom, dick ,or harold 40 grand, then to me that is breaking the wage structure :silence:
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Mr_Blue_Sky
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BrummieBear
Jan 24 2010, 10:03 PM
Or if a player is linked with us say TREV and TREV would sign for a Villa for £40K a week but would want much more to come here because we are not classed as a big club yet. McLeish wont have none of that.

You have completely crossed the line here BB! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Trevor Francis would NEVER sign for the Villa!





















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You might be right.


Andy Gray not only would never sign for us - but actually did never sign for us. The new manager came in at Villa, identified Gray was not his type and not in his futeure plans, and so wanted to off-load. He set up Gray to us but Andy Gray bluntly refused and went to Wolves, for less money.

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Lukey_H
Jan 24 2010, 10:50 PM
BrummieBear
Jan 24 2010, 10:03 PM
Or if a player is linked with us say TREV and TREV would sign for a Villa for £40K a week but would want much more to come here because we are not classed as  a big club yet. McLeish wont have none of that.

You have completely crossed the line here BB! :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Trevor Francis would NEVER sign for the Villa!





















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He may sign some of those two fingers signs in there direction
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Garry Pendrey
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BrummieBear
Jan 24 2010, 10:03 PM
I think McLeish wont mind a few players earning more than our current lot even a lot more, but wont be held to ransom on wages.

I think he is looking at say if a player say BOB....

Well if BOB plays for a Top 6 club earning £40K a week, and linked with us McLeish will not be willing to pay BOB £60K or more a week.

Or if a player is linked with us say TREV and TREV would sign for a Villa for £40K a week but would want much more to come here because we are not classed as a big club yet. McLeish wont have none of that.

So i guess what i am saying is take Boyd if we and Villa are linked McLeish will not be wanting to pay a lot more wages than Boyd would except from Villa, or with Babel like the Jones deal he wont want to be paying £20K a week more than the player currently earns.

Which i think is good as if we signed Jones for £70K a week and he never really made a huge impact what happens if we target some decent/better players in the future who earn less than that, they would surely want more than a £70K Jones.

You have to be sensible or else next thing you know your wage bill will be through the roof and when we try and renew current players contracts say like McFadden then what would stop him asking for £60K or more especially if he had more of a effect this and next season than players we sign for more than that wages.

If Jeff has 3 apples and Gary has 4 oranges and Bill eats an apple and 2 oranges and a bunch of grapes

...... how much change does Tom have from his original £1.20.

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Footballers are overpaid as it is, and there will be downward pressure on their wages over the next 2 + years from clubs like utd and liverpool, not to mention the floundering clubs like WHU and Portsmouth.

On the other hand if Blues really do want to step up to the next level then they have to restructure some things like what it takes to attract the top players, excluding marque signings of course. Big Eck has already said he doesn't want a 40Million pounds player, but are there too many negative signals?

If some new and deserving player demands more than the rest, why not raise the wages of the rest? At least a bit... they've earned it. Or a bonus scheme - but it wouldn't surprise me if the canny Scot or the shrewd chairman already have a bonus-a-win or some other bonus scheme in place over the last while.

All said, I'm sure Eck & Co know what they're at and are sussing out the best moves to make before the month ends.
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