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Benitez; seriously.....
Topic Started: Feb 13 2010, 07:23 PM (2,200 Views)
pooley
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Blooboy
Feb 13 2010, 07:30 PM
wish Simon Sturridge was still playing :) **thumbup

Legend!
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brad1875
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The_future_is_blue
Feb 13 2010, 08:07 PM
brad1875
Feb 13 2010, 07:57 PM
The_future_is_blue
Feb 13 2010, 07:48 PM
He was useless.

And yeah, im complaining. Are you gonna stop me?

ooooo, fighting talk :kiss:

Im angry.

:o
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1LoveridgeC
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I tend to like Chucho.

But today he was absolutely garbage. The end.
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1LoveridgeC
Feb 13 2010, 08:10 PM
I tend to like Chucho.

But today he was absolutely garbage. The end.

Yeah Im on the same wavelength as you, imo his reputed transfer fee drops down every week as a potential premier striker .

I really hope not signing a proven forward in January doesnt cost us in important matches regarding the league games or the cup ? :(
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My biggest gripe with Chucho is the amount of times he ends up on the floor. I actually watch him whenever he receives the ball and EXPECT him to end up on his backside.

The problem we have is there's no one else.

In his defence for today, maybe his ankle is not 100%?

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3asygroove
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watch this then:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_nPhcdL2KY
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heath123
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i agree with most points on here he is not strong enough and can't shoot but thats why he is playing for us not man u.
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tarrantini
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What are the odds for Chucho to score in the FA Cup Final???

Just wondered

:break:
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3asygroove
Feb 13 2010, 08:40 PM

I hate utube, it makes even Bent look like maradona :LMAO:
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tarrantini
Feb 13 2010, 08:54 PM
What are the odds for Chucho to score in the FA Cup Final???

Just wondered

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About 1000 to 1 I would bet
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jonnyconcrete
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Feb 13 2010, 07:32 PM
Sorry to h-jack your thread but for me it's Jerome i know some of u might beat me up for this but he is AWFUL he couldn't hit a barn door. I know he has pace i know he runs dfenders ragged but ffs he is a striker and strikers like Phillips know how to score goals - simple Jerome does not have th instict or foresight or brain to be a striker. I for one would not be dissappoited if he goes in the summer....to a championship club !!!!!!!! He'll do for now as we haven't got any real alternative but bye bye in the summer.............

Oh and he is lazy too...................

Oh and I am NOT moaning just giving an opinion ok

Well said! Jerome has to go...Jervis can't possibly be as bad...give him a run!
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in01_saund
Feb 13 2010, 07:53 PM
bcfc06
Feb 13 2010, 07:34 PM
topbird
Feb 13 2010, 07:32 PM
Sorry to h-jack your thread but for me it's Jerome i know some of u might beat me up for this but he is AWFUL he couldn't hit a barn door.  I know he has pace i know he runs dfenders ragged but ffs he is a striker and strikers like Phillips know how to score goals - simple Jerome does not have th instict or foresight or brain to be a striker. I for one would not be dissappoited if he goes in the summer....to a championship club !!!!!!!!  He'll do for now as we haven't got any real alternative but bye bye in the summer.............

Oh and he is lazy too...................

Oh and I am NOT moaning just giving an opinion ok

Have to agree 100%

Lazy?! You are entitled to an opinion but to call him lazy is ridiculous

He's not lazy, just freekin thick he can't read the game...and just appears lazy!
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phillipm90
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Feb 13 2010, 07:57 PM
We won 2-1! We are In the quarter final of the FA cup and 8th in the league! What more do you want? KRO! :drink: :Blues:

6-0, 1st, and fa champions :D
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Benitez is quite strong when he has the ball at his feet. But when he has to challenge in the air for the ball, he's got no chance really.
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passey0607
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how can people still stick up for benitez he has done nothing to show he is woth any kind of money his previos club were asking
he cant shoot he is weak,slow and is about as good at traping the ball as jerome. i dont think he had a shot all game as soon as phillips came on what did he do he tested the keeper and thats what a striker should be doing not doing fancy step overs and not getting any were.
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The Blue Bear
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Is he leading the way with assists?

I think he's worth keeping, it takes time for south americans to settle, and whilst I'm critical of his falling over, I see something in him.

Whether he has a future at Blues I don't know, with the money we are supposed to have, the summer should be interesting.
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Blue in CT
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3asygroove
Feb 13 2010, 07:58 PM
I think playing long balls to chucho doesnt help neither, Give it to his feet not his head, when the defender is a foot taller than him. And jerome I think he doesnt get the credit he deserves. He wins most of his headers and causes problems for defenders with the pace he has.

Some sense on the board
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plonker1
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I know that everyone is entitled to an opinion
but personally I just dont get it. The two players
you seem to be lambasting together with the rest
of the team have got us into eighth place, with
almost enough points to guarantee our Prem status,
and into the quarter finals of the cup.I realise that sometimes
our players frustrate us but which of us would have settled
for us to be in this position when the season started.
KRO
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The Blue Bear
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plonker1
Feb 13 2010, 09:58 PM
I know that everyone is entitled to an opinion
but personally I just dont get it. The two players
you seem to be lambasting together with the rest
of the team have got us into eighth place, with
almost enough points to guarantee our Prem status,
and into the quarter finals of the cup.I realise that sometimes
our players frustrate us but which of us would have settled
for us to be in this position when the season started.
KRO

I think you're missing the point.

Blues are having a great season, no one is saying otherwise.

But the performances of late, especially by certain individual players is dissapointing.
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gene autry
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brad1875
Feb 13 2010, 07:42 PM
goalsavingnick
Feb 13 2010, 07:40 PM
We are 8th in the table ffs! 8th! and in the quater finals of the fa cup! Stop moaning!

blimey, sorry, i thought this was a forum....... where i can express my opinion.............




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Course you can Brad.

The more I see of Chucho, the more he reminds me of a player called Francis Lee.

Played for Man City and was the same build and speed. Way before your time Brad, so apologies **thumbup

But Francis Lee was a cynical and devious player. Because of his height ( or lack of it) he got away with murder - and yes, he was an assasin at times in stupid tackles. His best gambit was flicking the ball past a defender and deliberately running into his back, no chance of retreiving the ball, but always got the advantage of a free kick.

He went down so often and so quickly it was a joke around the country.
This was about 20 years before Klinsman and the era of "diving" but Lee only had to be breathed on and he went over.

Chucho reminds me of him at times.

The other bit is that Lee was leading goalscorer at one point mainly through penalties that he won by being "fouled" in the box.

He was a nasty man, but Chucho isn't - mainly because he rarely if ever goes down in the box. He tends to get flattened in pretty meaningless areas- which is of no benefit to us, other than holding up play for a re-group.

Which in that respect isn't too important a strike against him. Fadds does about the same.

**thumbup
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plonker1
Feb 13 2010, 09:58 PM
I know that everyone is entitled to an opinion
but personally I just dont get it. The two players
you seem to be lambasting together with the rest
of the team have got us into eighth place, with
almost enough points to guarantee our Prem status,
and into the quarter finals of the cup.I realise that sometimes
our players frustrate us but which of us would have settled
for us to be in this position when the season started.
KRO

Are you sure....maybe ask messrs Hart, Carr, Ridgwell, Johnson, Dann and Bowyer about the season so far ?
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Guys, i want to give you a different viewpoint on him. I'm defending him, but only because i've seen his capabilities. I do respect he's not doing it at Blues at the moment, but we do have a much better player than what we've seen.

I've watched this lad play a number of times for his former club Santos Laguna. Regardless of all the negatives that people have pointed out on here, this guy can play. He can finish and he can equally be devastating to watch at times too in terms of opening up the opposition and creating chances for others.

Why is he not doing it at the Blues?

Firstly i don't think he's fully settled to the pace or physicality of our game. Secondly another reason why we've not seen the best of him, is because of the style Blues play.

The team at the moment, more down to a lack of quality players, plays a rigid style of football, which suffocates his freedom. Jerome is not an ideal partner for him either (not a dig a Jerome) and he needs a few more players around him, who will give him the space to play in.

So until Mcleish brings in the likes of Mcgeady, Pavlyuchenko etc, which then turns Blues into a more fluid team. Then Benitez best asset is just going to be ruffling up defences and creating opportunities for others, while grabbing the occasional goal.

IMO, i don't see Mcleish signing him unless the asking price drops, but in a better team than Blues have at present, i think he'd score goals and be quite some asset.

Just my opinion, but its one based on seeing him play, not just on you tube clips or from his performances in a Royal Blue shirt so far.

I hope he gets the chance to prove a few people wrong.
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The Blue Bear
Feb 13 2010, 06:02 PM
plonker1
Feb 13 2010, 09:58 PM
I know that everyone is entitled to an opinion
but personally I just dont get it. The two players
you seem to be lambasting together with the rest
of the team have got us into eighth place, with
almost enough points to guarantee our Prem status,
and into the quarter finals of the cup.I realise that sometimes
our players frustrate us but which of us would have settled
for us to be in this position when the season started.
KRO

I think you're missing the point.

Blues are having a great season, no one is saying otherwise.

But the performances of late, especially by certain individual players is dissapointing.

Best post so far, Blue Bear

Let's be honest, another Premier League side or even one of the top three or four sides in the Championship would have obliterated us today.....Let's not forget we rode our luck a bit in the two games with Nottingham Forest as well but this is the Cup and you need a lot of luck to get to Wembley so I am not moaning on that score

But on the Setanta coverage today analyst and co-commentator Nigel Winterburn (a very good former Blues full back by the way) described both Jerome and Benitez as "lazy" today.....not so much in the work ethic context but the way they read play and especially offside calls......Winterburn refererred to two seperate instances in the 2nd half where both players found themselves in excellent positions and were able to see the last line of Derby defenders clearly but pushed up way up too far so sure enough when the ball was delivered they were both offside.......He called it 'lazy play' and he was right

Chucho especially needs to be given the Offisde Rule Book to study for a at least a week

Either way, they've both been valuable contributors to our fine season, I believe most would agree on that score, but just about everybody from Kings Heath to Katmandu are saying we are simply just not scoring enough goals and we should be burying some teams but tend to be giving lifelines back to our opponents in many games due to failed opportunities in front of goal

I would expect Bentiez and Jerome to be 3rd and 4th choice strikers next season anyway......AM knows it and he'll be hunting for two not just one top qualty striker in the summer
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gene autry
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Funny. Ha Ha.

Every week, another player in a blue shirt is to be found wanting.
This week even Joe Hart can join the Hall Of Infamy created by the knowalls.

I think we've got just about every player in the 14 that have got us this far in the League and this far in the Cup as being either
useless or past it,
blind or indifferent,
stupid or lazy,
thick or incompetent,
slow or too fast,
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not good enough or not good enough.

Sorry Parti, but yours was the last post I read, and allowing for your brief historical reminder, you are doing what so many others do.

Did we play like Barcelona last week Parti ?

Or the week before?

Each week we get a comparison with earlier matches to show how we have failed in some way.

In a few weeks Parti and the other knockers will be comparing that performance against how well we did against Derby!!

We have players who are knackered, tired and weary. A basically unchanged side for 3 months.

The fact that they have got us this far - whatever happens - means I will remember them alongside the Hatton-Latcthford-Francis years - with the same respect and gratitude.

If some of the knockers had seen the "Golden Years" of blues, would you have thought your criticism worthy week after week?

Which matches, Parti, would you have chosen to criticise individual players in 72 - 76 ?

This team deserves our fullest and bravest support.

Not silly and childish comments that border on the trivial.

Our squad is not the most expensive, brilliant nor accomplished.

But they are OURS.

They have done BRILLIANT work to get us where we are.

Better than any in my lifetime of watching blues - and that is very long.

Not the most fluent, not the most adept, not the most individually skilled.

But they have one thing in common. They belong to us and the Keep Right On.

They don't deserve sniping and armchair criticism.

They are the best I have ever seen and I for one am Proud to be a bluenose.






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jonnyconcrete
Feb 13 2010, 09:29 PM
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Feb 13 2010, 07:53 PM
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Feb 13 2010, 07:34 PM
topbird
Feb 13 2010, 07:32 PM
Sorry to h-jack your thread but for me it's Jerome i know some of u might beat me up for this but he is AWFUL he couldn't hit a barn door.  I know he has pace i know he runs dfenders ragged but ffs he is a striker and strikers like Phillips know how to score goals - simple Jerome does not have th instict or foresight or brain to be a striker. I for one would not be dissappoited if he goes in the summer....to a championship club !!!!!!!!  He'll do for now as we haven't got any real alternative but bye bye in the summer.............

Oh and he is lazy too...................

Oh and I am NOT moaning just giving an opinion ok

Have to agree 100%

Lazy?! You are entitled to an opinion but to call him lazy is ridiculous

He's not lazy, just freekin thick he can't read the game...and just appears lazy!

Lazy.......i often ask my self do people have a clue about football on this forum.

Jerome is our best striker, and our hardest working player. Im guessing you were'nt at the game today then, Jerome worked harder than everyone, and was our only dangerous player.
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