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Looks Like A Done Deal With Mcgeady
Topic Started: Mar 21 2010, 10:51 PM (2,147 Views)
PartisanBCFC
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As pooley said, we'll likely pull out of the Chucho deal and use that cash for the Celtic winger instead


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Mar 22 2010, 02:26 PM
McGeady will likely come to BCFC in the summer

But the fee won't be 10 million

More like 7.5 million....8 mill tops

I guarantee it


:applause:

You have the same source as me. Only if a big four team come in will the player change his mind and that'll have to be pretty much soon as the transfer window reopens.
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Would like him here have always rated him so hopefully we pull that one off, would probably see us pull out of the Chucho deal as people have said, hes a brilliant player but for the money they want for him hes not the completed project yet and we cannot afford him as a future purchase for a year or so down the line, expect we will then use Mcfadden upfront more often as i expect McGeady would end up playing LW with Gardener and Larsson compeating for RW
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a wee bit more of a certain quality... makes you wonder why we (might) spend £10m on a player who's not played at the top flight but not that 'wee bit more' on a red-hot striker who is!!!

i don't think we should fork out a penny over £6m on McGeady until he's proved he can step up this level. it's a big risk and why should we take the risk...?
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How anyone can slate Keith Fahey is beyond belief. He is probably one of, if not the best, passer in our squad.

He is composed in possession, retains the ball well and is very versatile. A great signing for a few hundred grand!
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Mar 22 2010, 03:23 PM
How anyone can slate Keith Fahey is beyond belief. He is probably one of, if not the best, passer in our squad.

He is composed in possession, retains the ball well and is very versatile. A great signing for a few hundred grand!

Best passer? what about Barry and Michel and I haven't got past midfield yet.

Composure, versatility and ball retention? I don't think you have been to many games lately.

A great signing for a few hunfred grand? Yes he was last year in the CCC. We are now in the Prem and if we want to consolidate, then move on then the likes of Fahey are not what we need..........and neither is McGeadey. Just take time out and watch him in the next Celtic game on Sky. As I posted earlier he'll be the new O'Connor, the new Bent, the new Fahey.

And I thought we were supposed to be entering a new era?
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Mar 22 2010, 03:28 PM
... take time out and watch him in the next Celtic game on Sky. As I posted earlier he'll be the new O'Connor, the new Bent, the new Fahey...

to be fair you cannot judge a player by watching him on TV, Sky or otherwise. if you could then clubs/scouts up and down the country would be saving money and stopping in beside the telly each instead of trawling up and down the motorways of the UK - and elsewhere.

Sky does not track the players movement or anticipation, nor does it accurately track the work rate of a player - you can only do that by watching the guy on a few occasions from the stands. oh and before you start, you also need to know what you're looking at/for!

i also think your comments re Fahey are wide of the mark too. and O'Connor for that matter. yes both played better in the Championship than they have in the Prem but they are good squad players who can come on and not let the balance/performance of the squad drop. neither will probably be big Prem players and it wouldn't surprise me to see GOC heading out of St Andrew's once fit, but i'd be happy if both were part of the bigger squad set up next season. they're good, honest hard-working players who can play a bit.

as for whether McGeady - as you put it - will be 'the new O'Connor, the new Bent, the new Fahey' - this is pure opinion. neither you nor anyone on here can say that with any true conviction of fact.



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I've said this all along McGeady will not cut it at Prem level. His performances are based on playing in a sub standard league equivilant to League 1. How you can spend £8-10m on a player who's never had a consistant test against good oppositiion baffles me.

I remember a few years ago the same thing happened with Shaun Maloney, highly rated from Scotland and when he got to the Premiership it was clear to see he couldn't make the grade, the same is obvious about McGeady. I'm sure Trappatoni picked Liam Lawrence ahead of McGeady for Ireland which indicates what a proper manager thinks of him.
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I dont know why people have a go at Fahey as a budget buy to help bolster the midfield he has done exactly what was expected of him. I dont understand why people keep keep expecting us to have fantastic players when under
the previous board we had budgets of 5-6m tops to spend in every transfer window. He acclimatised to the prem well enough and McLeish said when he joined he wouldnt just walk into the team. He has had a number of assists.
His contribution has been what was expected and a wee bit more.

Everything I read about McGeady has been positive. Bornn in 1986 he is still a young man and gets assists and goals. I dont know what winger you are expecting us to get. Ronaldo perhaps. Hopefully they wont pay too far over
the odds. But at the very least he looks like a young man with a bit of talent. The premier league may be a change for him but he looks quite capable managing this. I fully support McLeish in trying to get as much of the best
talent from UK and Ireland playing for us.
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take it people have never watched mcgeady in the champs league playing at highest level against the likes of barca and milan, at the same time looking one of the best players on the pitch? only plays against average teams tho i guess...

if hes played in the champions league for 5 years i bet he has more quality than 90% of our squad atm.

as for lowdham... do us a favour and go support the villa you are pathetic in your arguements and obviously dont goto many games yourself.
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Which midfielder will he replace and will he do a better job?
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Mar 22 2010, 05:17 PM
Which midfielder will he replace and will he do a better job?

Mcfadden/Fahey allowing Mcfadden to be used more as a striker

As for the Fahey debate im leaning slightly to lowdhams point of view, i dont think Fahey has done that much to merit staying in the squad, certainly not keep Mcfadden out the squad

I rate him as a player, he was great last year and his passing is very good and has a good shot on him to at times, however have Mcfadden on the wing is far more effective tbh, more of a threat on goal and more creative

Fahey was doing good at what he was originally doing, replacing Mcfadden about 70 mins in to stabilise the game if we were winning or had a decent result coming
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I think Fahey's problem has been that he does'nt seem to fit in either on ther wing or in the middle. The game passes him by a bit when we're defending.

But to say he can't pass or beat a man is a bit harsh, I think it's a confidence thing really. Look at the 2 Pompey games last week to see the good and the bad side to his play.

That said I think he would fit in best as the more attacking option within a midfield 3.
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Mar 22 2010, 05:08 PM
take it people have never watched mcgeady in the champs league playing at highest level against the likes of barca and milan, at the same time looking one of the best players on the pitch? only plays against average teams tho i guess...

if hes played in the champions league for 5 years i bet he has more quality than 90% of our squad atm.

as for lowdham... do us a favour and go support the villa you are pathetic in your arguements and obviously dont goto many games yourself.

Well iv never really seen him do that much in the champions league and i watch a lot of it. Certainly not the best player on the pitch!

Hardly a valid point saying that cos hes played 5seasons in the champions league he is better than 90% of our squad!Considering 90% of our squad would get into the Celtic team they would be playing champions league football. Wouldnt make them better than the majority of Spurs or Villa players who arnt playing CL football!
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Mar 22 2010, 05:40 PM
I think Fahey's problem has been that he does'nt seem to fit in either on ther wing or in the middle. The game passes him by a bit when we're defending.

But to say he can't pass or beat a man is a bit harsh, I think it's a confidence thing really. Look at the 2 Pompey games last week to see the good and the bad side to his play.

That said I think he would fit in best as the more attacking option within a midfield 3.

Something i have said many of times....shame for him we dont play that way!

Similar to Bryan Hughes in terms of position, a central midfielder forced out wide cos he wernt strong enough to play in a 4-4-2. When ever we played 3-5-2 he looked a diffrent player.
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Mar 22 2010, 09:50 AM
I hope not. But old Alex does like to wind me up.


Don't flatter yourself that The Manager or anyone on here gives a t*** what you think.
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I have absolutely no idea but I'm just going to speculate and cause trouble anyway and then hide behind the IMO tag and the endless line about this being a fans message board and that all can express an opinion within the rules, of course.

Celtic if not already are going to be in big time trouble with the club having a severe loss in revenue with the Scottish leagues losing the second champs league berth in 2011-12 and the champions having to play three qualifying rounds next season. The club has lost out to Rangers in a big way this season and for them to take the SPL would take a McLeish like turnaround - not impossible but never the less unlikely.

With the loss in revenue they will have players wanting to have a crack at the champs league or the club will want shot of the wages as they were generally bought on the basis of qualification to the qualifier round of the champs league as a minimum. If the players are on high bonuses for games played and goals scored etc. then the Europa league will only bring around more financial woes for possibly a space in the last 32 of the competition where the likelihood, with a lesser squad, they will fall to whichever champ league team they play first that's of course if they make it out of the group at all.

So I see a fire sale of sorts at Celtic as they try and shift players for the price that they can get. IMO this puts Birmingham with regard to Aiden in a stronger position than January with regards to the amount of the way a deal is financed.
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Mar 22 2010, 08:28 AM
if we did pay that sort of mney for him does that look like we will be using maybe the chucho money? just a thought

:LMAO:

You never give up :D

It could be Pav money. Bent or O'Connor money :LMAO:

It could be Messi money even **thumbup

It could even be a Forsell type figure, including his 5 year wages, Tax and National Insurance, membership of the loacal OAP Golf Club and Jacuzzi centre and most important and probably most expensive, lifetime membership of Mrs Ferguson's Women's Institute of Ground Comparisons and Ridicule (Officially Sponsored by: Deep Fried Mars Bars (Batter extra) Ltd)

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Mar 22 2010, 08:29 PM

Villa not playing tonight ? :D
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Mar 22 2010, 08:28 AM
if we did pay that sort of mney for him does that look like we will be using maybe the chucho money? just a thought

:LMAO:

You never give up :D

It could be Pav money. Bent or O'Connor money :LMAO:

It could be Messi money even **thumbup

It could even be a Forsell type figure, including his 5 year wages, Tax and National Insurance, membership of the loacal OAP Golf Club and Jacuzzi centre and most important and probably most expensive, lifetime membership of Mrs Ferguson's Women's Institute of Ground Comparisons and Ridicule (Officially Sponsored by: Deep Fried Mars Bars (Batter extra) Ltd)

:o

no...my thought is £8ish for chucho, £10 fr mcgeady - thats 18 + wages

From my research it looks like mcgeady is currently on 20k a week so £1,040,000 so for mcgeady we are looking at a total of £11 to £12 mil inc. wages. then add on the rest of chuchos fee takes that to over 20mil before we have figures chuchos wages into the equation, and thats only on 2 players. that leaves aprox 20mil for transfer and wages for another winger, a left back, a right back and a quality striker....thats why Im wondering if were using the chucho money, I cant see us spending over 20mil on just 2 players
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Mar 22 2010, 08:11 PM
pooley
Mar 22 2010, 08:28 AM
if we did pay that sort of mney for him does that look like we will be using maybe the chucho money? just a thought

:LMAO:

You never give up :D

It could be Pav money. Bent or O'Connor money :LMAO:

It could be Messi money even **thumbup

It could even be a Forsell type figure, including his 5 year wages, Tax and National Insurance, membership of the loacal OAP Golf Club and Jacuzzi centre and most important and probably most expensive, lifetime membership of Mrs Ferguson's Women's Institute of Ground Comparisons and Ridicule (Officially Sponsored by: Deep Fried Mars Bars (Batter extra) Ltd)

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no...my thought is £8ish for chucho, £10 fr mcgeady - thats 18 + wages

From my research it looks like mcgeady is currently on 20k a week so £1,040,000 so for mcgeady we are looking at a total of £11 to £12 mil inc. wages. then add on the rest of chuchos fee takes that to over 20mil before we have figures chuchos wages into the equation, and thats only on 2 players. that leaves aprox 20mil for transfer and wages for another winger, a left back, a right back and a quality striker....thats why Im wondering if were using the chucho money, I cant see us spending over 20mil on just 2 players

unless we get chu on loan again or at a reduced price he will be off home at the end of this season...
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Mar 22 2010, 08:28 AM
if we did pay that sort of mney for him does that look like we will be using maybe the chucho money? just a thought

:LMAO:

You never give up :D

It could be Pav money. Bent or O'Connor money :LMAO:

It could be Messi money even **thumbup

It could even be a Forsell type figure, including his 5 year wages, Tax and National Insurance, membership of the loacal OAP Golf Club and Jacuzzi centre and most important and probably most expensive, lifetime membership of Mrs Ferguson's Women's Institute of Ground Comparisons and Ridicule (Officially Sponsored by: Deep Fried Mars Bars (Batter extra) Ltd)

:o

no...my thought is £8ish for chucho, £10 fr mcgeady - thats 18 + wages

From my research it looks like mcgeady is currently on 20k a week so £1,040,000 so for mcgeady we are looking at a total of £11 to £12 mil inc. wages. then add on the rest of chuchos fee takes that to over 20mil before we have figures chuchos wages into the equation, and thats only on 2 players. that leaves aprox 20mil for transfer and wages for another winger, a left back, a right back and a quality striker....thats why Im wondering if were using the chucho money, I cant see us spending over 20mil on just 2 players

Teasing pooley. :D
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Mar 22 2010, 09:06 PM
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Mar 22 2010, 08:11 PM
pooley
Mar 22 2010, 08:28 AM
if we did pay that sort of mney for him does that look like we will be using maybe the chucho money? just a thought

:LMAO:

You never give up :D

It could be Pav money. Bent or O'Connor money :LMAO:

It could be Messi money even **thumbup

It could even be a Forsell type figure, including his 5 year wages, Tax and National Insurance, membership of the loacal OAP Golf Club and Jacuzzi centre and most important and probably most expensive, lifetime membership of Mrs Ferguson's Women's Institute of Ground Comparisons and Ridicule (Officially Sponsored by: Deep Fried Mars Bars (Batter extra) Ltd)

:o

no...my thought is £8ish for chucho, £10 fr mcgeady - thats 18 + wages

From my research it looks like mcgeady is currently on 20k a week so £1,040,000 so for mcgeady we are looking at a total of £11 to £12 mil inc. wages. then add on the rest of chuchos fee takes that to over 20mil before we have figures chuchos wages into the equation, and thats only on 2 players. that leaves aprox 20mil for transfer and wages for another winger, a left back, a right back and a quality striker....thats why Im wondering if were using the chucho money, I cant see us spending over 20mil on just 2 players

Teasing pooley. :D

it is a good question though - if we spend 20 on two players does it

(1) show how the board are willing to support us and want to move forward - good

(2) eck blowing his load on two players and then scraping the barrell fr the other positions we need - bad

(3) will the board spend 20mil on 2 players and then still give us a decent amount 6/7mil for a leftback, striker, and other winger taking overall spend to 40mil as 'promised' - good
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