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The P L Actim Index
Topic Started: Mar 24 2010, 03:10 AM (380 Views)
PartisanBCFC
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Jack Wiseman
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Does anyone take any notice of this stuff ??

This is supposed to be the ultimate guide to player's form in the P L

Joe Hart does not even make the current top 5 goalkeepers yet Almunia gets in there....and I'm sure most would agree Peter Cech has not looked exactly his usual confident and agile self lately has he ?

Seb Larsson makes Number 53 yet Ridgewell, Bazza and Scott Dann are 84, 94 and 95 respectively ....and no place in the top 100 for Chucho or Jerome......we did get four lads in the Top 50 though ..

Lee Bowyer (37)
Stephen Carr (41)
Joe Hart (44)
Roger Johnson (49)

How can the Vile have 5 players in the Top 20 yet Arsenal only have 2 ?? :banghead: Even John Terry makes the Top 20 and he's been dire of late......and Stephen Hunt at 17 For Gawds' Sake ????
Does anyone out there know how it even works

It's complete BS if you want my personal opinion


http://actimindex.files.wordpress.com/2008...ex_top10050.gif



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jj22
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Totaly agree, what a pile of ****, how on earth do they come up with these things.

RJ is in the top 50 though as is Carr,Hart and Bowyer.

Any idea of how you actualy score points on this?

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Have you just changed that post, cos i couldv sworn you said RJ wasnt in the top 100 and Larsson was our top player lol!!
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jj22
Mar 23 2010, 11:16 PM
Totaly agree, what a pile of ****, how on earth do they come up with these things.

RJ is in the top 50 though as is Carr,Hart and Bowyer.

Any idea of how you actualy score points on this?

**thumbup Thanks , mate ....duly edited
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Mar 24 2010, 03:17 AM
jj22
Mar 23 2010, 11:16 PM
Totaly agree, what a pile of ****, how on earth do they come up with these things.

RJ is in the top 50 though as is Carr,Hart and Bowyer.

Any idea of how you actualy score points on this?

**thumbup Thanks , mate ....duly edited

Haha i thought id just imagined it, when i re read what you had put!!

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jj22
Mar 23 2010, 11:16 PM
Totaly agree, what a pile of ****, how on earth do they come up with these things.

RJ is in the top 50 though as is Carr,Hart and Bowyer.

Any idea of how you actualy score points on this?

Explanation is here



Actim Index Frequently Asked Questions
What is the Actim Index?


The Actim Index is the official player rating system of the English Premier League and Coca-Cola Championship. It was introduced for the 2004/05 season and was devised by statisticians at the University of Salford in partnership with Press Association Sport. In the 2006/07 season the Actim Index was enhanced by the addition of assists and clean sheets to the factors that are taken into account.

What is the purpose of the Actim Index?
•It identifies the players who make key contributions.
•It allows players to be ranked against each other at random or using such criteria as playing position, nationality, age, or geographical location of their team.
•It highlights the key players in a league or team.
•It shows the form of a player or team.
•Individual player/team performances can be scientifically analysed over a season or period of time within a season.
•It provides fans with the knowledge of who is the best.
How accurate is the Actim Index?
The calculations are based on the six key factors that contribute to a player’s effectiveness and his ability to help his team win matches.

The formulae were devised through analysis of hundreds of games since the start of the English Premier League in 1992 and have been statistically proven to measure a player’s effectiveness in winning matches.

How is the Actim Index calculated?
Complex mathematical formulae were devised to calculate the value of each player’s contribution, match by match. In simple terms, the Actim Index comprises four calculations:

•Calculation 1 – Assesses a player’s contribution to a winning team, based on points won by the team when he appeared.
•Calculation 2 – Assesses a player’s performance in each game, by allocating points for actions that positively contribute to a winning performance such as shots, tackles, clearances and saves. It also takes points away from players for negative actions such as yellow/red cards and shots off target.
•Calculation 3 – Allocates points based on time on the pitch.
•Calculation 4 – Allocates points for goal scorers.
•Calculation 5 – Allocates points for assists.
•Calculation 6 – Allocates points for clean sheets.
Did you test the Actim Index system before its introduction in 2004/2005? Who came top?
Yes we did, and the Actim Index clearly identified Thierry Henry as the most effective player in the Premier League in 2003/2004. The Arsenal striker scored 30 league goals that season – eight more than Alan Shearer and 10 more than Ruud van Nistelrooy. Henry also performed well in terms of all-round play and total appearances – factors that recognise the important contributions of players who rarely find the back of the net. Henry picked up Index points for the quality of his crosses and passing as well as his appearance in 37 out of 38 Arsenal league games. This, together with his remarkable scoring record explained his lead at the top of the Actim Index in 2003/2004.

Is there a subjective element to the Actim Index? Do you award points for entertainment value?

The Actim Index only includes actions that can be measured objectively. Skill, passion and flair are subjective factors so they are not included in the rating system.

Where will Actim Stats and the Actim Index appear?

National and regional newspapers, magazines, websites, mobile phones, SMS alerts, TV and Radio both in the UK and abroad.

Isn’t the Actim Index biased towards players who play for the top clubs?

What about players who play well for less successful teams?
The Actim Index aims to identify successful players who contribute to winning performances. However, rewards for team success are only part of the final rating. Players on losing teams can still score points in other areas. The view is that players deserve recognition for contributing to team success, but should still be able to score points if their team draws or loses.

Roque Santa Cruz finished the 2007/08 season in a surprising 4th spot (652 points) after a tremendous campaign with Blackburn Rovers. The striker scored an impressive 19 goals in his debut season in the Premier League for a Blackburn team that only finished in 7th place.

Is it only players that score goals that do well on the Actim Index?
Goals do improve a player’s score but the 2007/08 Premiership index proved that you don’t need to be a hot-shot to make an impact. Arsenal defender Gael Clichy finished 10th with an index score of 565 but surprisingly did not manage to net a single goal, and Ashley Young who finished 5th netting only 8 times during Aston Villa’s impressive campaign.

Again, Gael Clichy (10th) managed to exceed Dimitar Berbatov’s position of 15th having not scored a goal with his 3553 minutes on the pitch compared to Berbatov’s 15 goals in 3148 minutes.


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Or in other words

Put some University students in a tiny room together with some computers......Crunch some data and 'Presto' !!

You get a lot of misguided ******* like this

These points made me laugh


It highlights the key players in a league or team.
•It shows the form of a player or team.


So how on earth did Larsson make 53 then ??

:D :D
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Mar 24 2010, 03:25 AM
Or in other words

Put some University students in a tiny room together with some computers......Crunch some data and 'Presto' !!

You get a lot of misguided ******* like this

These points made me laugh


It highlights the key players in a league or team.
•It shows the form of a player or team.


So how on earth did Larsson make 53 then ??

:D :D

Thats more like it....wonder how much it cost to put all these pointless figures together!!
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Larsson is better than Malouda by all accounts!!
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you can use percentages and stats to prove anything.

61% of people know that
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If stats is your bag there are plenty of fantasy football sites that use similar scoring systems and probably will give you similar results to Actim.

As has been said things like passion, commitment and movement off the ball cannot be measured objectively as they are subjective to the observer.

That is why even watching a match live on the TV cannot compare to actually being at the game because you only see the action in the vicinity of the ball and not the movement off the ball.

I read an article a while back where some TV production company wanted to offer a full view of the pitch for the whole duration of the game for that reason but don't think anything ever came of it that I am aware.
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Mar 24 2010, 08:16 AM
you can use percentages and stats to prove anything.

61% of people know that

We all know 98% of stats are made up on the spot :whistle:
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Mar 24 2010, 01:40 PM
pooley
Mar 24 2010, 08:16 AM
you can use percentages and stats to prove anything.

61% of people know that

We all know 98% of stats are made up on the spot :whistle:

57% of people think that 87% of what you just said is rubbish **thumbup :P
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i think its all opinionated stats anyway, its like the fair play table if you check that out its a joke how they can score it the way they have.
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pooley
Mar 24 2010, 05:03 PM
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Mar 24 2010, 01:40 PM
pooley
Mar 24 2010, 08:16 AM
you can use percentages and stats to prove anything.

61% of people know that

We all know 98% of stats are made up on the spot :whistle:

57% of people think that 87% of what you just said is rubbish **thumbup :P

:banghead:
WRONG

82% of people use statistics to prove others wrong
The other 19% are just thick and don't understand :blink:
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Mar 24 2010, 06:41 PM
  WRONG

82% of people use statistics to prove others wrong
The other 19% are just thick and don't understand  :blink:

Well, our chances of beating Arsenal now must have dropped to about 85/25 against


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so it is geared to the better teams....and teams in general and not teams


they need to handicap the better teams when they play the weaker teams or give the weaker teams a bigger % calculated score when they play..

that way we will get a more ballanced score...


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