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How Much Does Each Stand Hold?; capacity
Topic Started: Mar 29 2010, 02:53 PM (610 Views)
87dominguez
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Frank Worthington
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Does anyone know? feed.back
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midland red
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Mikael Forssell
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Yep ! **thumbup
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87dominguez
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steeples
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i know the ground is 30,009

but we must remember that the true attendance is never announced for tax reasons. This is apparent when you look at the ground and there are hardly any seats left yet they announce 26000 attendance,

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe


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The Concerned Potato Head
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Main stand - 5000
GM - 8000
Tilton - 9000
Kop - 8000

according to Wikipedia
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Francis No.8
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Its approx....

Tilton 4,500
Kop 11,500
Gil Merrick 8,000
Main Stand 5,500
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Mikael Forssell
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Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM
i know the ground is 30,009

but we must remember that the true attendance is never announced for tax reasons. This is apparent when you look at the ground and there are hardly any seats left yet they announce 26000 attendance,

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe

:LMAO:

How does it save Tax - could you explain this ?

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Francis No.8
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Mar 29 2010, 03:10 PM
Main stand - 5000
GM - 8000
Tilton - 9000
Kop - 8000

according to Wikipedia

They need to rethink that methinks...the Tilton bigger than the Kop? lol
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Francis No.8
Mar 29 2010, 03:13 PM
The Concerned Steve bruce
Mar 29 2010, 03:10 PM
Main stand - 5000
GM - 8000
Tilton - 9000
Kop - 8000

according to Wikipedia

They need to rethink that methinks...the Tilton bigger than the Kop? lol

the kop doesnt have as many rows as the Tillton *shrugs*

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bordesley
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As far as I remember, the Kop and Tilton together holds 17,500, and the GM is 7,500. That means that the mainstand holds just over 5,000.
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The stats given when the ground was redeveloped were:

Kop: 11,000
Tilton: 7,000
Gil M: 7,700
Total: 29,500

suggesting the Main holds 3,800

replacing the Main and completing the 'horseshoe' shape was only going to add another 7,200 and take the capacity to around 37,000 and even if planning permission was ok, the finaical outlay could hardly be justified now grants are not available to support the cost
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Mar 29 2010, 03:11 PM
steeples
Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM
i know the ground is 30,009

but we must remember that the true attendance is never announced for tax reasons. This is apparent when you look at the ground and there are hardly any seats left yet they announce 26000 attendance,

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe

:LMAO:

How does it save Tax - could you explain this ?

If people pay cash and then the company doesn't declare it, then they don't pay the tax man = an extra 17.5% worth of cash to keep.

But at the same time they'd have to spend that cash in an underhand way as well because it couldn't appear on the books, and it is all highly illegal.

I wouldn't expect this would be going on at the Blues though...
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baron von bluenose
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the top 3 rows of the lower gil merrick are netted off and not for sale as the toffs in the boxes there complained about fans outside obstructing there view.

that must be a few hundred we cant sell
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Bit off subject but.....

Is there a seating plan showing the rows and seat numbers ?

Would make it easier when ordering tickets online

Thanks and sorry for the highjack

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amberblue
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Kop 9,000
Tilton 7,000
Gil Merrick 8,000
Main Stand 6,000

TOTAL 30,000

Simples **thumbup
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Mar 29 2010, 03:11 PM
steeples
Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM
i know the ground is 30,009

but we must remember that the true attendance is never announced for tax reasons. This is apparent when you look at the ground and there are hardly any seats left yet they announce 26000 attendance,

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe

:LMAO:

How does it save Tax - could you explain this ?

well i had trouble with this also until it was explained to me, When it was explained to me there was lots of long words and stuff i did not explain until it was put to me like this


if they declare 29000 crowd then the tax on tickets sold ( not season tickets ) im assuming its VAT ? has to be paid but if there is 29000 there but they declare a crowd of 27000 for example they dont have to pay it on the 2000, as its nigh on impossible for the tax man to prove how many people are actually in the stadium, unless they have somone checking each and every turnstile




like i say i dont fully understand it but it does make sense. i mean i have looked round the ground when they declare the attendance and thought no chance so my accountant friend explained it to me

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Mar 29 2010, 04:29 PM
midland red
Mar 29 2010, 03:11 PM
steeples
Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM
i know the ground is 30,009

but we must remember that the true attendance is never announced for tax reasons. This is apparent when you look at the ground and there are hardly any seats left yet they announce 26000 attendance,

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe

:LMAO:

How does it save Tax - could you explain this ?

well i had trouble with this also until it was explained to me, When it was explained to me there was lots of long words and stuff i did not explain until it was put to me like this


if they declare 29000 crowd then the tax on tickets sold ( not season tickets ) im assuming its VAT ? has to be paid but if there is 29000 there but they declare a crowd of 27000 for example they dont have to pay it on the 2000, as its nigh on impossible for the tax man to prove how many people are actually in the stadium, unless they have somone checking each and every turnstile




like i say i dont fully understand it but it does make sense. i mean i have looked round the ground when they declare the attendance and thought no chance so my accountant friend explained it to me

Simply wouldn't happen.

Get caught doing that sort of thing and your in big piles of it.
Ask a self employed person who has fiddled like that where their house has gone.
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oh and im not saying its fact by the way. I was told so asked my pal to explain. It would not surprise me in the Sulligold years but now i dont know
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Mar 29 2010, 04:33 PM
It would not surprise me in the Sulligold years but now i dont know

Your probably right :LMAO:
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Mar 29 2010, 04:32 PM
steeples
Mar 29 2010, 04:29 PM
midland red
Mar 29 2010, 03:11 PM
steeples
Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM
i know the ground is 30,009

but we must remember that the true attendance is never announced for tax reasons. This is apparent when you look at the ground and there are hardly any seats left yet they announce 26000 attendance,

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe

:LMAO:

How does it save Tax - could you explain this ?

well i had trouble with this also until it was explained to me, When it was explained to me there was lots of long words and stuff i did not explain until it was put to me like this


if they declare 29000 crowd then the tax on tickets sold ( not season tickets ) im assuming its VAT ? has to be paid but if there is 29000 there but they declare a crowd of 27000 for example they dont have to pay it on the 2000, as its nigh on impossible for the tax man to prove how many people are actually in the stadium, unless they have somone checking each and every turnstile




like i say i dont fully understand it but it does make sense. i mean i have looked round the ground when they declare the attendance and thought no chance so my accountant friend explained it to me

Simply wouldn't happen.

Get caught doing that sort of thing and your in big piles of it.
Ask a self employed person who has fiddled like that where their house has gone.

like i say i dont know pal. I know nothing of this sort of thing.

But nothing would surprise me with Sullivan especially, i mean he was investigated twice by the Fa or police or whoever it was

and i know loads of self employed blokes that fiddle like mad, there are some very good accountants out there that are very cleaver at hiding money. And the amount of cash jobs that get done is literally outragious

Infact id go as far to say most Self Employed people are on some sort of fiddle !!
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The tickest are all bar coded as are the St cards. Everything is computerised. The computer adds the day tickets to the ST tickets and that is the total attendance for the game. (Doesn't account for or care about non attendances.)
Also the divider between the fans and the unsold seats at the back of the Gil Merrick Lower account for the difference between capacity and sold out figures.
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Mar 29 2010, 03:06 PM

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Mar 29 2010, 04:36 PM
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Mar 29 2010, 04:32 PM
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Mar 29 2010, 04:29 PM
midland red
Mar 29 2010, 03:11 PM
steeples
Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM
i know the ground is 30,009

but we must remember that the true attendance is never announced for tax reasons. This is apparent when you look at the ground and there are hardly any seats left yet they announce 26000 attendance,

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe

:LMAO:

How does it save Tax - could you explain this ?

well i had trouble with this also until it was explained to me, When it was explained to me there was lots of long words and stuff i did not explain until it was put to me like this


if they declare 29000 crowd then the tax on tickets sold ( not season tickets ) im assuming its VAT ? has to be paid but if there is 29000 there but they declare a crowd of 27000 for example they dont have to pay it on the 2000, as its nigh on impossible for the tax man to prove how many people are actually in the stadium, unless they have somone checking each and every turnstile




like i say i dont fully understand it but it does make sense. i mean i have looked round the ground when they declare the attendance and thought no chance so my accountant friend explained it to me

Simply wouldn't happen.

Get caught doing that sort of thing and your in big piles of it.
Ask a self employed person who has fiddled like that where their house has gone.

like i say i dont know pal. I know nothing of this sort of thing.

But nothing would surprise me with Sullivan especially, i mean he was investigated twice by the Fa or police or whoever it was

and i know loads of self employed blokes that fiddle like mad, there are some very good accountants out there that are very cleaver at hiding money. And the amount of cash jobs that get done is literally outragious

Infact id go as far to say most Self Employed people are on some sort of fiddle !!

Who's that Knocking on your door. Gulp its the Inland Revenue :copno:
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Mar 29 2010, 04:09 PM

if you can hide 2000 paying customers from the tax man its a fair bit of doe

They could make a fortune if no one turned up! **thumbup
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Mar 29 2010, 06:28 PM
The tickest are all bar coded as are the St cards. Everything is computerised. The computer adds the day tickets to the ST tickets and that is the total attendance for the game. (Doesn't account for or care about non attendances.)
Also the divider between the fans and the unsold seats at the back of the Gil Merrick Lower account for the difference between capacity and sold out figures.

thats a great point, like i say i dont know at all im just passing on what i was told.
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