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Paul Konchesky; Please do not start multiple threads!!!
Topic Started: May 19 2010, 08:57 AM (6,360 Views)
NeilM
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I wouldn't say no to Zamora, the more options the better, not that I think he would come anyway, but to those who question why we would need to buy another big feller when we just bought Zigic, what if Zigic gets injured, what do we do then?

Anyway, Zamora does have pace and is a better finisher than Jerome on most occasions.

IMO he could do both Zigic and Jeromes job if needed, so would give us massive options up front.
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We need Chucho now!
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Chris_Bcfc
May 28 2010, 12:20 PM
MikaelForssell
May 28 2010, 11:11 AM
Theres no need for us to sign Zamora, we need a different type of striker now, a pacey finisher.

Thats why the likes of Fletcher and Bojinov appeal more... aswell as Cameron of course.

Fletcher, a pacey striker?

Haha Zamora would blow him on pace...

Ok not pacey, but more of a different sort to Zigic.

Zigic will do the holding up like Zamora did for Fulham this year...we need a more direct player
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May 28 2010, 12:46 PM
We need Chucho now!

No, we need a goalscorer
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non very prolific is he , a big old no from me
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MikaelForssell
May 28 2010, 12:54 PM
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May 28 2010, 12:46 PM
We need Chucho now!

No, we need a goalscorer

We've just signed a goalscorer, we need someone now who is skilful and can provide assists.
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May 28 2010, 12:57 PM
MikaelForssell
May 28 2010, 12:54 PM
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May 28 2010, 12:46 PM
We need Chucho now!

No, we need a goalscorer

We've just signed a goalscorer, we need someone now who is skilful and can provide assists.

garry o'conner ? < <
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May 28 2010, 12:57 PM
MikaelForssell
May 28 2010, 12:54 PM
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May 28 2010, 12:46 PM
We need Chucho now!

No, we need a goalscorer

We've just signed a goalscorer, we need someone now who is skilful and can provide assists.

Yeah, that why we're after Charles N'Zogbia, who can weigh in with goals himself.

Chucho had tricks in his locker... but the key things he needed was composure infront of goal, and some strength... he had neither... therefore we rightfully sent him back, no way is he worth £8m.
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I don't want Zamora or Fletcher. We've got enough home nation players, we need some foreign flair up front that can get fans on the edge of their seats like Chucho did. I don't want us to mimick the Vile and adopt their mind numbing style of football.
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I can understand blues trying to get zamora if the zigic deal had fall through because we need a target man but now we have got a target man so i thinck we would be crazy buying zamora
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We should now go all out for N`Zogbia, he is exactly what we need. Even at more than 12 milliom he would be worth it as its not always the players worth in terms of his skills, it is his worth as the right player for this team, he is a must for us why gamble on the likes of ya Zamora`s, he is okay but is he really what we need. For the extra few mill lets go the extra miles and St Andrews will be brimming over, Please Alex if you sign no one else this window sign N`Zogbia and you will get three times your dosh back when we get into Europe. KRO :banner:
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May 28 2010, 05:40 AM
Sky Sports reports this morning that a second duel bid has now gone in from Big Eck for this pair of 29 year olds from Fulham!

The prospect of a ZIG ZAM Attack Attack Attack! :applause:

KRO :Blues:

could be ZIG ZOG ZAM :break:
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May 28 2010, 11:00 PM
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May 28 2010, 05:28 PM
I don't want Zamora or Fletcher. We've got enough home nation players, we need some foreign flair up front that can get fans on the edge of their seats like Chucho did. I don't want us to mimick the Vile and adopt their mind numbing style of football.

I'm really getting sick of all this negative bile against Zamora and Fletcher not to mention the unqualified furvour for Charles N'Zogbia! :banghead:

Well done for completely missing the point again.

First of all I didn't even mention N'Zogbia, I would welcome his signing as I would with whoever AMc chooses to bring in.

My concerns are levelled at having too many English, Scottish & Irish players in the squad and not enough technical, flair players that you would often find overseas. This might sound pretty backwards in regards to today's Premier League that has foreign players in abundance but it's what's required to stop us developing into a team like the one over at B6; full of heart and spirit, competitive against top sides but predominantly boring and almost always falling short of their goal.

We need style and creativity to prevent us from becoming a stale footballing side, devoid of ideas in the final third. One of the reasons Chucho was such a hot topic of conversation was because he stood out and made things happen, he was the spark that got not only the fans going but the players around him who were inspired by how he could influence the game. Zamora and Fletcher are not that kind of player, their pricetags are heavily inflated for the ONE good season they have produced at this level and you know what to expect with them. I want some one that when they play you expect the unexpected, someone like Bojinov who can produce magic at any given moment.
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May 28 2010, 07:58 AM
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May 28 2010, 08:36 AM
Zamora - NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

please please please no.     Konchesky - yes though  :D

Bobby Zamora: 17 Goals this season in all competitions!

8 Goals in 27 Premier League appearances!

3 Goals in 4 FA Cup appearances!

6 Goals in UEFA Cup appearances!


Only his recent Achilles injury prevented his place in the World Cup squad!

ARE YOU SERIOUS....? :banghead: TRUST IN MC'LEISH...!

http://www.fulhamfc.com/MatchAndTeam/Playe...obbyZamora.aspx


KRO :Blues:

So you are basing your post and the silly smiley on 8 premier league goals.

Wow - what a hot shot he is - no wonder all the big clubs are looking at him - NOT!!!!

Before you go banging your head up a wall - check his ENTIRE Premiership record -not just one lucky season - I will give you a little clue - last year he played nearly twice as much as Chucho and scored less :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

He is rubbish.
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Bobby Zamora is flipping useless. He got his act together somewhat at the start of this season, but in reality he's an injury prone carthorse, much worse than Emile Heskey and just a little bit better than Marcus Bent. Bent, incidentally, had one decent season in the Premier League with Leicester, scoring ten goals, before returning to the normality of uselessness.

I totally agree with MF once again - we need a different type of striker to play alongside Zigic. Jerome will play the speed role well, but I'd also love to see us go for Steven Fletcher. Exactly the type of player we need.

Although Fletcher isn't that fast, he's not that slow. He's not a nippy player, but he's a very strong runner and has good levels of intelligence in attack.

£9m for a 29 year old Zamora, or £7m for a 23 year old Fletcher....... it's a no brainer!
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£9 m for a 29 year old who hasnt ever untill last season been a prolific striker isnt what we need lets hope Fulham sign him up for a few more seasons and we go in for someone else. He got slated at Fulham can see him being the next Jerome here.
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Is it me or are some people a tad crazy ???

Why would we want Zamora??

Zamora has had one good PL season in his career...

Pablo Angel had one good season down the road in his PL career...

Would you have Angel down the Blues? Didn't think so **thumbup

Konch would be great though :)

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Zamora had one good season... Hodgson wanted rid of him last summer, and Zamora was on the verge of going to Hull for £4m.

Zamora and Hull couldnt agree on his contract, and the rest is history... he stays, he's their top goalscorer (in all competitions... 8 PL goals isnt as amazing as some people make out).


Dont you find it weird how Fulham and Hodgson are still apparently open to letting him leave? They're under no pressure to sell, but still entertain it? Maybe because they know something like £9m for Zamora is daylight robbery!
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May 29 2010, 10:05 PM
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May 28 2010, 09:23 AM
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May 28 2010, 07:53 AM
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May 28 2010, 06:44 AM
Both 29 which is a worry when we have to pay quite a big fee. If neither hit the ground running we could be stuck with a couple of duds with no resale value.  < <

That would have been my opinion until recently too. But then I heard Harry Redknap saying yesterday (Talk Sport) that he prefers to buy older, established players. He actually mentioned that while they had no resale value, they paid their fee in their performances. Given his success in turning Spurs from 'relegation likely's' to Champions League contenders, he may just be right.

If you buy players for their resale value, what are you actually saying? Either, they wont make it here and we will offload them, or, they will make it here and we can sell them on to a bigger or better team for the profit.

I think with the Zigic signing, for example, the manager has set us up to be more than just a stepping stone team for players either on their way up or on their way down. I really believe that he thinks he can turn us into a team who will eventually challenge for Europe, That sometimes means risking big money without worrying about getting it back in the future. We are now buying players, not stop-gaps or investments.

It was Mourinho that said that, when talking about signing Gerrard and Lampard, not Redknapp.

Mourinho told Spanish sports daily AS: "I like players in the final part of their careers.

"I love to have some players who are 33 or 34 years old... they are players that you buy and you won't recover this money, but if they give you good performances for two or three years you've got your money's worth.

Don't waist your time lads! some people on here can't take opposing points of view and they can't even learn after they have been proven wrong in the past!

Phillips, Ferguson, Bowyer, Carr and even McFadden were all past it and too old for some when Alex Mcleish brought them in! Some will never understand the value of a mature seasoned campaigner and they will always take a narrow view in an attempt to qualify their unqualified reasoning like:

Ingoring Zamora's 9 other top flight goals in a remarkable 2009/10 season for Fulham, they will berate him for only scoring 8 PL goals in 27 Premier League appearances without realising Zamora has a better appearance/goal ratio than Cameron Jerome or even being prepared to consider the contribution he has made in leading the line for Fulham even though it was clearly apparent when we played against them!

We may know the value of mature seasoned players in the team such as Barry Ferguson's contribution and value to our own squad, McLeish, Rednap and Mourinho may know it, but some will never learn it!

KRO :Blues:

People thought McFadden was "past it" at 24 when we signed him? Hmm OK then, if you say so ? :blink:



What an incredibly way off the mark post that is ^ ... We all appreciate the value of the likes of Carr, Bowyer, Ferguson, Phillips, and even Carsley and Maik (more so last year)... but how many of those cost upwards of £5m... none of them.

Zamora, who has had an average at best career bar one season is NOT worth £9m.. no matter how its dressed up... he was valued at £4m before the season... after last, he's probably at most worth around £6m... if he does it for another season, yeah maybe £9m...even though 30.


He isnt the sort of striker we need to partner Nikola Zigic! They both do the holding up job, both lead the line... we have one already, who's proven on the international stage, and doesnt have a bad record consistently throughout his career... look at Zamora's, then tell me he's worth more than Zigic.
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for me their far too similar, playing too big guys upfront is just going to result in long ball and no football at all. We need a clever player next to zigic, or at least someone with an abundance of pace, i cant see us signing Zamora as a backup for zigic which would result in two similar players playing upfront aswell. I also believe that zamora is a case of a player thats probably only motivated under a manager such as hodgson, and if he joined us with a big price tag, would ultimately flop, with our expectations of a 9m signing, because a 29year old with such a price tag would ultimately have to justify the price tag at least within his first season.
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Zamora do you think he is going for him bescause he is quick and can play on the right hand side...?
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May 29 2010, 06:05 PM
  Don't waist your time lads! some people on here can't take opposing points of view and they can't even learn after they have been proven wrong in the past!


At least I know how to spell 'waste '

Smacks of

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From the poster who called a few of us 'sad pathetic gits' on another thread the other day.....Apparently he took exception to our remarks on Chucho.....you know, that little Ecuadorian fellah who scored three Premier League goals for us and was then going to cost us close to 8 million


:P :P
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May 30 2010, 12:28 AM
  Alright Parti, I supposed I deserve and asked for that!  :redcard: By the way, Mods previewed my posts for 3 days becuase of it  :wub:  :LMAO:

KRO  :Blues:

Well I do admire your candidness and honesty

I really do....fair play :applause: :applause:



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All I know is AM seems tonget the best out of players that personaly did not rate , so if he thinks zamora is worth a punt then he has my support.

Go get him Eck
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I never ever thought I would say this......but.........................................

Come on Villa !!!

http://www.sundaymercury.net/midlands-spor...66331-26550551/

Just imagine - Zamora and Heskey :LMAO: :LMAO:
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